Official Impeachment: American Crime Story Thread

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@DaylitoJames Now I really am more interested in Bill's presidency. I was a kid when he was president, and grew up in a liberal home, so the narrative to me growing up is that Bill was a good president that helped the economy, did have strong principles, but had a massive weakness for p*ssy (but all consensual affairs). And this show is portraying him as a man that seems fairly honorable and cares about the presidency and (at least wanting) to be a good man.

I didn't find out until the Trump vs Hillary race that Bill had as many harassment or even rape accusations as he did. And then during the Trump vs Biden race I heard more about the crime bill that Bill authored, NAFTA, etc.

I'm assuming his presidency isn't as revered now as it was when he left office? I definitely remember during W Bush's presidency that people seemed to miss Bill, and I even heard quotes from a handful of people that "if Bill could run for president every time, he'd keep winning" and I definitely remember his approval rating improved after his impeachment trial.

I'm definitely going to try and dig and see more about how effective he was as president. Certainly he had to have been a better alternative than H Bush and Dole.
 

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@DaylitoJames Now I really am more interested in Bill's presidency. I was a kid when he was president, and grew up in a liberal home, so the narrative to me growing up is that Bill was a good president that helped the economy, did have strong principles, but had a massive weakness for p*ssy (but all consensual affairs). And this show is portraying him as a man that seems fairly honorable and cares about the presidency and (at least wanting) to be a good man.

I didn't find out until the Trump vs Hillary race that Bill had as many harassment or even rape accusations as he did. And then during the Trump vs Biden race I heard more about the crime bill that Bill authored, NAFTA, etc.

I'm assuming his presidency isn't as revered now as it was when he left office? I definitely remember during W Bush's presidency that people seemed to miss Bill, and I even heard quotes from a handful of people that "if Bill could run for president every time, he'd keep winning" and I definitely remember his approval rating improved after his impeachment trial.

I'm definitely going to try and dig and see more about how effective he was as president. Certainly he had to have been a better alternative than H Bush and Dole.
I was young too so I usually hear people say that the last time America was in the surplus was during the Clinton Era... then W. Bush and the war came along and we've been in massive debt ever since. Plus anytime I ever hear someone talk about Bill Clinton they usually talk about him and women but never his policies and impact on the world itself so it really shows you how much his affair with Monica has kinda overshadowed most of his legacy which is probably what the republicans wanted all along.
 

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I was young too so I usually hear people say that the last time America was in the surplus was during the Clinton Era... then W. Bush and the war came along and we've been in massive debt ever since. Plus anytime I ever hear someone talk about Bill Clinton they usually talk about him and women but never his policies and impact on the world itself so it really shows you how much his affair with Monica has kinda overshadowed most of his legacy which is probably what the republicans wanted all along.
I think that's very possible.

Also, I think historical context is important. What's progressive now would be center or even conservative depending on how far back in history we go. Didn't Obama not support same-sex marriage until partially into his 2nd term? I don't think a president could say they were against same-ex marriage in 2021.

I know the crime bill under Clinton's watch had a lot of negative side effects, with mandatory minimums and really damaging outcomes. At the same time, I remember growing up that it was really huge for politicians to not look soft on crime. The death penalty was a staple of presidential debates (and no one really seems to care now). I sort of doubt that a harsh crime bill like that would be authored by a Democrat in today's climate.
 

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I think that's very possible.

Also, I think historical context is important. What's progressive now would be center or even conservative depending on how far back in history we go. Didn't Obama not support same-sex marriage until partially into his 2nd term? I don't think a president could say they were against same-ex marriage in 2021.

I know the crime bill under Clinton's watch had a lot of negative side effects, with mandatory minimums and really damaging outcomes. At the same time, I remember growing up that it was really huge for politicians to not look soft on crime. The death penalty was a staple of presidential debates (and no one really seems to care now). I sort of doubt that a harsh crime bill like that would be authored by a Democrat in today's climate.
I think democrats have to mainly deal with what ever is the mainstream issue of the time. 90s had tons of crime issues hence Bill is intertwined with the crime bill. Obama came along with gay rights was the hot point issue. Since transexuals, BLM and equal rights is the main issues today that's gotta be Biden's cross to deal with and legacy along with the Afganistan debacle.
 

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:patrice: I remember years ago I used to hear dudes say that they don't like getting head from women because they can't cum from it and they deem it a waste of time so it just p*ssy only. Bill may be one of those people that treat oral sex as "only foreplay" but never cum from it. It just all depends, in my sexual encounters with women I've been with a few that could give me good head but I would never cum but get me hard to slam ass.... then I've been with women that would make me cum from head everytime within 5 minutes or less.

Also Bill was an older man so put that as a factor, but as I mentioned before maybe Monica's oral skills may have been average at best. :yeshrug:


:deadrose::deadrose::deadrose::deadrose::deadrose:…… never gets old
 

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:russ: I agree with you but I have known dudes that with female relationships value love and friendship over sex... and they usually get cheated on because of it. In their minds they think they are being "a gentleman" but in reality they are just simp ass suckers.
My bad breh, I'm late getting through the thread. The guy in my friend circle growing up that had the most natural game (he was just a natural ladies man) without having to really think about it, or have some bad experiences to set him straight...he put a high premium on friendships with women along with the sex. In fact, he ended up being a serial cheater, and his wife (who was his high school sweetheart) is divorcing him as of a few months ago. He had entire side relationships instead of just smashing and running. I think he really got off on the extra emotional/friendship connection.

I've noticed this can be a trend among guys that naturally have some game without having to learn it. I ended up in the friendzone a few times, and had to learn the hard way. And I think it's like that for a lot of guys. But for guys like Bill Clinton that didn't have to work to get p*ssy...it's easier for me to see why they'd put a higher premium on female friendships and having female confidants, etc. Because they're less likely to lose out on sexual opportunities despite valuing those things.

I hope I didn't explain that too poorly
 

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My bad breh, I'm late getting through the thread. The guy in my friend circle growing up that had the most natural game (he was just a natural ladies man) without having to really think about it, or have some bad experiences to set him straight...he put a high premium on friendships with women along with the sex. In fact, he ended up being a serial cheater, and his wife (who was his high school sweetheart) is divorcing him as of a few months ago. He had entire side relationships instead of just smashing and running. I think he really got off on the extra emotional/friendship connection.

I've noticed this can be a trend among guys that naturally have some game without having to learn it. I ended up in the friendzone a few times, and had to learn the hard way. And I think it's like that for a lot of guys. But for guys like Bill Clinton that didn't have to work to get p*ssy...it's easier for me to see why they'd put a higher premium on female friendships and having female confidants, etc. Because they're less likely to lose out on sexual opportunities despite valuing those things.

I hope I didn't explain that too poorly
:ehh: Makes total sense
 

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Also, what kind of maniac is Bill Clinton is get head and not finish?

:mindblown: That's insanity. Blue balls hurts. What's he doing?

I almost refuse to believe that. Is this something that Bill and/or Monica said to make him look less bad? On some "look, but don't touch, touch but don't taste" type of situation?

I'm legitimately confused. Because I read this morning that Bill said he used Monica and the blowjobs as a way to relieve stress. But how the fukk is it stress relieving to get head, not cum, and then have blue balls? I think that seems even worse.
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He apparently said he needed to trust her more first. The only logical explanation I could think is he was worried one of these skeezers wouldn’t swallow and impregnate they selves with it. A lot of women have done it with less powerful men. She also said they never had sex? Idk whole thing seem odd
 
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