OFFICIAL Game of Holmes Season 8 Thread - A Dream of Flat Tops 4/14/19

[The axe murderer]

I'm kinda glad they killed missandei.... The hell she was gonna do with greyworm... Start a family?...

Just took that man soul like

 

[Dorian Breh]

@YaThreadFloppedB! @YaThreadTrashB! both in here

Who woulda thunk

 

[Biscayne]

I agree with all your points, but I think we're mixing actions having consequences with being a blatant hypocrite who desires followers.

On the first example, you make it about honor being restored, when Sansa got her father killed. Thats a huge consequence for her to learn as a character. And there's alot more between that and her becoming leader of the north.

Whether people remember Robb's name or not he got himself, his mother, and his pregnant wife killed.
For Arya and Jon I agree with that, they're "special" for the writers.

But the thing is, the people you named aren't traveling the world to recruit an army based on heavenly principles and claim. They fight for the Starks and Winterfell for the most part.
The Starks aren't demanding people across the 7 kingdoms bow to them based on their honor as starks. And if they did do that, they paid heavily for it.

Ofcourse she's going to have to prove, the only one you can compare her journey to is Jon and he has been constantly going around fighting to unite everyone including enemies. He hasn't gone around saying "I have dragons, im your king, now follow me". He hasn't earned his following through fear and manipulation, it's been through honor. I get that that honor seems given to him, but she's relied on the threat of her dragons. What does she expect people to look to her for?

She's done as much as any one Stark has done in their lifetime to prove she's a worthy leader. This all goes back to her being related to the Mad King and her being a female. Varys who's very leery of her, said as much himself when Tyrion argued for Dany, and Varys said Jon was a war hero. So was Dany, yet Varys said having a cock matters in this world. Dany has been trying to be diplomatic and made mistakes. Many of which were to prove how diplomatic she can be towards The North. The way the North thumbed their noses down at Missandei, The Unsullied, and the Dothraki and the constant "mad queen" talk from Sansa and others, hasn't helped the situation at all. Even Aegon Conquest was more heavy handed 300yrs ago. They don't want a conqueror in Dany. Understandable. But you said it, none of the Starks tried to conquer the world using dragons. But none of the Starks were born into the situation Dany was born into. Her "conquering" was through the perspective of someone who had been conquered. Dany, even with her 3 dragons had delineated some of her power to her Advisors, including Jon Snow. Even in her conquering of Westeros she's been diplomatic at the behest of her advisors, and has lost ppl because of it.

Going on suicidal missions because of Jon(losing a dragon in the process).

The mission being deemed pointless because cersei didn't give a damn about a walker.

Dany listening to Tyrion about being diplomatic towards Cersei and not going full throttle on Kings Landing, and getting bit in the butt in the process.

 

[Peak]

this is unbelievable

 

[Chelsea Bridge]

It’s crazy how Dany risked her army and dragons to save the north and still gets no respect.

What else does she have to do to deserve their loyalty?

People actually acting like Sansa is right to not be trustful after Dany came north to save her and her people.

I’d be pissed if I were Dany. Ungrateful asses.

 

[Torrential]

It’s crazy how Dany risked her army and dragons to save the north and still gets no respect.

What else does she have to do to deserve their loyalty?

People actually acting like Sansa is right to not be trustful after Dany came north to save her ass, lol.

I’d be pissed if I were Dany. Ungrateful asses.

The stark girls are insubordinate bytches. fukk Sansa and Arya both.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

And why the fukk she back at Dragonstone next episode?

because she doesent have her full army, she just went there to ask Cercei to bend the knee and get missandi back.

 

[itsyoung!!]

It’s crazy how Dany risked her army and dragons to save the north and still gets no respect.

What else does she have to do to deserve their loyalty?

People actually acting like Sansa is right to not be trustful after Dany came north to save her and her people.

I’d be pissed if I were Dany. Ungrateful asses.

She didnt save Sansa and her people.. Jon Snow saved Dany if anything because if he doesnt warn her about the coming threat, the night king and his army, then her claim to the throne would be shorter than leprechauns cause she'd be dead not long after

Also I think Sansa character thinks Dany is full of shyt and allied with the North to further her goal of taking the throne, and that she doesnt have the North best interest in heart

and the way its been written this season, Sansa isnt completely wrong in thinking that.. Dany is still on some "bend the knee" type shyt even though shes fukking her brother.. Sansa also plays the politic game better and longer than Dany so shes probably feeling like shes seen this movie before with previous leaders and knows how the story always turns out.

Long story short, she thinks Dany is insincere

 

[Black Nate Grey]

Pacing was disgusting for this episode. Supreme trash.
Tyrion and Varys should be running shyt. From day one they were the most intelligent, compassionate characters on the show.
If Daenarys wins she'll probably abolish the monarchy. But Jon'll end up killing her.

 

[Chelsea Bridge]

She didnt save Sansa and her people.. Jon Snow saved Dany if anything because if he doesnt warn her about the coming threat, the night king and his army, then her claim to the throne would be shorter than leprechauns cause she'd be dead not long after

Also I think Sansa character thinks Dany is full of shyt and allied with the North to further her goal of taking the throne, and that she doesnt have the North best interest in heart

and the way its been written this season, Sansa isnt completely wrong in thinking that.. Dany is still on some "bend the knee" type shyt even though shes fukking her brother.. Sansa also plays the politic game better and longer than Dany so shes probably feeling like shes seen this movie before with previous leaders and knows how the story always turns out.

Long story short, she thinks Dany is insincere

She brought her army and dragons to save them from the night king.

It doesn’t matter what Sansa thinks. She’s ungrateful. Jon is the only one who seems to appreciate her sacrifice.

Why shouldn’t Dany expect them to bend the knee when she came north to save them? That’s the least she deserves for what she did.

I don’t recall any previous leaders doing what Dany did. Sansa should be smacked. All she knows how to do is talk. I’m not understanding why people think she’s so valuable.

 

[waynep]

She didnt save Sansa and her people.. Jon Snow saved Dany if anything because if he doesnt warn her about the coming threat, the night king and his army, then her claim to the throne would be shorter than leprechauns cause she'd be dead not long after

Also I think Sansa character thinks Dany is full of shyt and allied with the North to further her goal of taking the throne, and that she doesnt have the North best interest in heart

and the way its been written this season, Sansa isnt completely wrong in thinking that.. Dany is still on some "bend the knee" type shyt even though shes fukking her brother.. Sansa also plays the politic game better and longer than Dany so shes probably feeling like shes seen this movie before with previous leaders and knows how the story always turns out.

Long story short, she thinks Dany is insincere

Aye G did we get some clarity if that was a spoiler from
Ole boy on the other page.. please tell me it wasn't.
I don't wanna go back smh

 

[itsyoung!!]

Aye G did we get some clarity if that was a spoiler from
Ole boy on the other page.. please tell me it wasn't.
I don't wanna go back smh

I dont know.. i hate spoilers.. even if its not 100% written out, I hate when people imply or allude to something as well... so im not gonna personally going to go into the spoiler thread to see

@Brozay may know more info

 

[itsyoung!!]

Why shouldn’t Dany expect them to bend the knee when she came north to save them?

It could be seen that Dany came to the North to save her self and further her goal of taking over Kings Landing.. you seem to be not looking at it through another view point

I don’t recall any previous leaders doing what Dany did.

The house of Mormont?? Umbers? The Vale? Wildlings?

The giants are extinct now because they were fighting the same fight..

 

[dabestkeptsecret]

I think yall right about danny fukking up listening to her advisers

- like someone said earlier. If she had just went in at kings landing. She still have her 3
Dragons, and the nightking wouldnt have enough of that ice fire to break the wall’s magic
- now cersei had enough time to have her people make plenty of those dragon cross bows
- shes smart enough to know how gullible the people at kingslanding are, after that sect took over, and got these people in there like fodder

- jamie had that postnut clarity
- how brienne must be in bed. Jaimie went from living the righteous path, to getting back with his sis and their life

- varys was funny as hell when he found out the truth
- how many people know
damn 8 the whole world gonna know now

 

[waynep]

I dont know.. i hate spoilers.. even if its not 100% written out, I hate when people imply or allude to something as well... so im not gonna personally going to go into the spoiler thread to see

@Brozay may know more info

It was all the way implied smh dammitt!!!