Rell84shots
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First Take got half a million views just talking about if Tyson or Foreman were scarier to fight. At least FT mixes in different topics in between the Lebron & Brady shyt.
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philmonroe
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I told you I don’t disagree just that dudes list posted is shyt people don’t care about. That’s been my point the whole time
David_TheMan
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Disagree with you and most people do as well
philmonroe
Superstar
Suck a dikk
G.O.A.T Squad Spokesman
Logic Is Absent Wherever Hate Is Present
Look at the front page of the Coliseum right now. Dudes on here talking about bullshyt hypotheticals too
Rell84shots
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I hate hypotheticals in debates because you're making up scenarios to prove a point. When people say MJ is the GOAT they bring facts, while the LBJ crowd resorts to "what if". Shannon constantly asks what if Lebron had a prime Shaq or Phil as a head coach, and all that does is weaken his argument. LeBron had a prime Wade & Bosh and still got whooped by the Mavs.Look at the front page of the Coliseum right now. Dudes on here talking about bullshyt hypotheticals too
Smitty Belafonte
All Star
Shay has to stop with the disrespect of MJ. He talks about him as if he was a bum. I wonder what MJ would say to him if they come across each other. Shay so out of pocket wit his MJ takes it’s almost disgusting.
i appreciate undisputed for trying to get more topics but this is a bad hill for skip to die on .
calvin is amazing but TO is the 2nd best WR ever
calvin is amazing but TO is the 2nd best WR ever
Rell84shots
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If people don't have MJ as the GOAT that's fine, but the outright disrespect Shannon gives him is uncalled for. On the All the Smoke podcast he asked Stephen Jackson how many HOFers were on the Pistons team Jordan beat and Stack said 4, and Shannon responded with "But what kind of HOFers were they". You could tell that he didn't know how many were on that team, and he was trying to make a case for Lebron's championships being tougher.
Edit: At 5:33 is when Shannon lost all credibility
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Various factors outside of an inviduals control impact their level of team success. If you are comparing two indiviudals and using team success in that comparison then you should account for those factors. People go on and on about Mike's 6 rings but that ain't what make him GOAT. He was doing GOAT shyt when he couldn't even get to the Finals but he was running into superior squads. Fact is Phil got 5 rings without Mike. Mike doesn't have a Finals appearance without him. Mike never won a playoff series without Pippen. The thing about facts is that you can use certain facts to push an agenda while ignoring others, not to mention the factors outside of one's control that contribute to said facts. Just looking at how each guy played tells you who is the GOAT.
Stephen was actually making Shannon's point. MJ was getting beat by the Pistons the same way Bron was getting beat by the Warriors. The Pistons are not the team to bring up if you are riding for Mike. Shannon is merely providing balance. Love him or hate him there is no debate that Bron is the most disrespected, overly scrutinized GOAT level player. Meanwhile Mike is the most worshipped. All Shannon is doing is being one of the few media members that doesn't blatantly ride for MJ, as the show would be pretty boring if you have two people riding so hard from the same perspective. He's giving Mike a highly sanitized dose of what Skip gives Bron. It's all an act. Did you ever hear Shannon talking like this about MJ or Bron for that matter BEFORE Undisputed?
Rell84shots
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Stop
for Shannon bruh. He is not providing balance, he's trolling just like Skip does. He's gone out of his way to try and discredit all of MJ's championships. How is he providing balance by criticizing Jordan for losing to the Pistons and Celtics, and then making excuses for Lebron's losses? As for the Pippen debate no one except Skip ignores what Pippen meant to Jordan's legacy, Pippen was the first name Jordan said at the start of his HOF speech. Shannon is just like Skip when it comes to MJ, but he gets a pass because he's "Uncle Shay". The bolded is ridiculous because as great as Lebron is he's brought a lot of his criticism on himself.
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How is that not balance? And he still doesn't go as far as Skip does. And I'm on record saying that no grown ass man should call himself or allow others to call him "Uncle Shay"
Dude trying to play that Pistons squad like they were nothing when they had multiple HOFers, a legendary coach, and had to go thru the Celtics and Lakers to get their championships. He should be embarrased, its amazing how many folks give Shannon a pass for his dikkriding.
First Take is actually asking viewers for topic ideas
yes Calvin was a great player no doubt but it .....but this was T.O. all the away
Calvin's only real argument is the record breaking season in receiving yards a season in which his team won 3 games
skip going on and on about Megaton be a "monster freak" the likes of which we've never seen before but if you watch lot's of game film on both players T.O. despite be smaller and lighter than Megaton plays with more football strength (breaking tackles, bouncing off hits, just bullying db) even with running a slower forty time T.O. actually plays with more" football speed", (more separation on vertical/deep routes, more breakaway speed after the catch, more acceleration,explosiveness,quickness,agility) so if Calvin was a "monster freak" than T.O. was a "nitro powered beast" of a receiver
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