Official Crisis on Infinite Earths Thread

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Should've pulled a Walking Dead and eliminated a few people :russ:

Having Barry and maybe Nash as the only ones remembering them would've been dope.

I wish there was some way they could move Dig/Lyla into another Arrowverse show as I think the storyline with her dealing with the ramifications of the Anti-Monitor controlling her would be really interesting to follow.
 

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he didnt mention it though... he said next crisis... meaning major event... WE took it as Crisis because they announced it as the next X-over.
and Marc explained why they cut psycho pirate in another article

on a side note.. I thing it wouldve been better if only the paragons remembered ... not John telling everybody
Don't give them a copout. We all know he was talking about COIE. They even capitalized Crisis as a proper noun on the closed caption :unimpressed:

Martian Manhunter telling everybody what happened really was some bullshyt. He basically told everyone whatever they remembered of their lives for at least the past 5ish years(whenever multiverse fukkery would've started) was all a lie and they all were like :manny:
 

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Don't give them a copout. We all know he was talking about COIE. They even capitalized Crisis as a proper noun on the closed caption :unimpressed:

Martian Manhunter telling everybody what happened really was some bullshyt. He basically told everyone whatever they remembered of their lives for at least the past 5ish years(whenever multiverse fukkery would've started) was all a lie and they all were like :manny:

Martain only gave them the crossover memories i thing... i dont thing 5 years

it would be dope if diggle remembered flashpoint and baby sara then conner to now having both
 

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Martain only gave them the crossover memories i thing... i dont thing 5 years

it would be dope if diggle remembered flashpoint and baby sara then conner to now having both
Multiverse fukkery started with Flash season 2, right? If they didn't know about the multiverse, then that means that everything that happened over that time(different Wells, Zoom, Earth 2 Laurel, etc) didn't happen. So either they :manny:'d at everything from the last 5 seasons or they just retconned ALL of it

Either it's a poorly scripted reaction to some monumental shyt, or a poor explanation of what is history/canon in this new multiverse
 

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The cameos and canonizing stuff was dope

final battle was trash and what happened to them saying 3 Superman would be in 1 scene?

Wanted to see Reverse Flash and what happened to Smallville
 
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Wait ppl actually complaining about the plot holes. The original comics was continuity trash also but thats not why we watch this show. I mean not to long ago flash ran into a singularity in the downtown Central City, run across outerspace to retrieve man who was just floating there for weeks, unharmed.

That previous sentence didn't even make sense but we dont watch this clown shyt cuz its logical.
 

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The Next Arrowverse Crossover Will Be Smaller Than Crisis - and That's Good

After “Crisis on Infinite Earths” changed almost everything about the Arrowverse, there's a lot of directions the universe can go. However, when it comes to the next crossover, things are going to scale down, at least if it's up to Marc Guggenheim.

“Crisis” destroyed the multiverse as fans knew it. Everything in the DC Universe (well, the TV and movie ones at least) was erased, with Purgatory, the Vanishing Point and the Speed Force being all that was left for a short time. It seems rather difficult to go bigger than that -- the “Infinite” in “Crisis on Infinite Earths” is there for a reason. Maybe it could be done, but trying to top yourself every time paints you into a corner and could cause people to get sick of stories that are big just for the sake of being big.

Constantly having big events getting bigger can get tiring, distracting from the individual stories and making it a lot harder to follow if you’re not watching everything. This hasn’t been much of a problem with the Arrowverse so far, but taking a step back and letting the next crossover be a smaller event will go a long way to avoid fatigue.

This is especially relevant to “Crisis on Infinite Earths” because it has serious after effects. The crossover is finished, but it’ll take a while to get used to the new status quo. Following the universe being restored and the year-long buildup between “Elseworlds” and “Crisis on Infinite Earths”, fans of the Arrowverse have been in “event mode” for a while now, and going bigger would just make it more exhausting.


The first Arrowverse crossover, “Flash vs. Arrow”, was a really simple affair; the main casts of The Flash and Arrow visited each other’s cities and had some fun teaming up and fighting. The next crossover, “Heroes Join Forces," set up Legends of Tomorrow, introducing the reincarnating Hawk people and the immortal tyrant Vandal Savage. “Invasion!” was about an alien attack, but Supergirl had already introduced that idea, so it wasn’t nearly as out there as “Heroes Join Forces” was compared to what had come before it.


“Crisis on Earth-X” was the first crossover to include every show and featured alternate versions of most the heroes, feeling like almost a first draft of “Crisis on Infinite Earths." Its flurry of cameos and big set pieces made it the biggest crossover yet. “Elseworlds” pulled back a bit, featuring fewer shows and setting up an epic story more than telling one of its own. “Crisis on Infinite Earths”, the most recent crossover, takes the cake as the largest-scale event, however, featuring a plethora of cameos, massive battles and an entire universe being built.


The pattern so far has been to roughly alternate big crossovers and smaller ones. Since “Crisis on Infinite Earths” was the largest yet, it makes sense that the next one will tone things down a bit. It fits into The CW's design, and with how well it’s worked, there doesn’t seem to be a need to alter it at all.

What fans really want to see rather than massive battles, is there favorite character interacting, that's what the crossovers started out as. Yes, we’ve spent a lot of time with these heroes -- Barry Allen and Sara Lance have been part of the Arrowverse since 2013, and even Kate Kane and Clark Kent are pretty well developed for only having been in about a dozen episodes each so far, but that's not what it's about. People spend months watching these individual series and they feel rewarded when all the characters get together.

What could be the focus of the next event is how the newly formed Justice League operates. How do all of them work once they’re a permanent team, not just individual heroes working together? What about newcomer Jefferson Pierce/Black Lightning, who’s just now started interacting with the rest of the Arrowverse? The next crossover is probably going to have a big threat for them to fight against, but that’s not the secret to these characters. From the first crossover pushing Barry Allen and Oliver Queen to fight each other and work together, the crossovers have succeeded based on how well these characters bounce off of each other. A story more focused on the heroes would do a lot to establish the Justice League and give a bit of a breather from the big events.

"Crisis on Infinite Earths," the latest five-show crossover between all the Arrowverse series, is now available on The CW's streaming service in its entirety.
 

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The Arrowverse's Next (Smaller) Crossover Event Is Already Being Developed
Although fans are still reeling from "Crisis on Infinite Earths," the Arrowverse's producers aren’t resting on their laurels. Crossover producer Marc Guggenheim explained he is already brainstorming “ideas for ideas” regarding another crossover event, before joking about how he is working with the equivalent to Avengers: Endgame’s catering budget.

“I would say I have ‘ideas for ideas,’ and I’ve sort of pitched to [The CW CEO] Mark Pedowitz and [executive producer] Greg Berlanti what, if left to my own devices, I would like to see us do,” Guggenheim told TVLine. “There is a rubric that is semi in place… and both Mark and Greg have signed off on that, and as we go onward, things will get more and more specific. I was emailing Mark just the other day, that we have to all get in a room together to talk about this. We typically do a post-mortem about what went right, what went wrong, what did we learn…. We always learn something.”

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With fans eager to see their favorite superheroes continue to cross over, Guggenheim explained that, come what may, they don’t intend to “go as big” in their follow up efforts. “Look, I hate comparisons to [Avengers:] Endgame, because it’s just not fair -- we’re working with Endgame's catering budget -- but Marvel didn’t follow up Endgame with Endgame 2. I think you’ve got to build to an event of this kind. The one thing we’re all in agreement on -- cast, crew executives, you name it -- is that we’re not going to go as big next year. In fact, Mark [Pedowitz] and I were talking about ‘returning to the roots’ of our crossovers, and I’ll leave it to people to interpret what that means.”
 
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