Basically. Unless you’re part of the Myers clan or with them, you’re good. Making it random means you could just be chillin in your crib making a sandwich and he could stab you with the knife while eating a dog or rat.
Gave myself some time to digest Halloween and talk to some friends about it. I rate it as the best modern Halloween (surpassing H20 which was only great for campy reasons to me) and the one with the most moments that capture the best bits of the old ones...but I still got the original trilogy (skipping Season of the Witch) as the Halloween movies I'm most likely to go back to when I want to see Michael Myers as his best. The thing is, that's not meant to be a dig at all. This is the first Halloween in decades that actually gets the tension game right for multiple scenes but it hits on those inconsistently. I'd say you have around 50% of a vintage Michael Myers horror, 25% plot building that's a mixed bag and then a final 25% where the wheels fall off over more modern horror conventions being shoe-horned in (unnecessary plot twists that cause characters to stop using common sense and action movie pacing that completely wrecks the tension building). It's that last bit that's REALLY disappointing though. For about 3 quarters of the movie you have a strong mix of scenes with some standout kills and forgivable mistakes (a little too much comedy relief and exposition can be forgiven when it's followed by vintage boogie man tension). Then you get this stretch of everyone making dumb decisions just to accelerate things toward an ending that is more Sara Conner vs the Terminator from T2 on then it is Ripley vs the Alien in that classic. Basically, this movie is at its best when it follows the classic formulas.
- The audience knows more than the victim
- The victim comes to the slow realization that they're in danger
- By that time it's too late to save themselves and they're cornered with the only options being to hide or try to fight an overpowering presence
If you make moves to have characters downplaying the threat of Michael Myers or actively putting themselves right in front of him to take out, the tension that we feel is gone regardless of how gory things get or how much faster Michael Myers gets to pump up his body count. The writers also went a little too heavy on the offscreen kills. It's effective early on, but by the end game there's no surprise or sympathy for the victims.
Spoiler bits
I think the bathroom scene might be too on the nose for some fans but I thought it was a really good way to put us back in the Halloween universe. Coupling the bathroom stall trapped bit with discovering bodies in the gas station was a great bit. The other thing is it felt cathartic, like the writers sending us a message. The podcasters are trying to fill in Michael's backstory and look for deeper meaning (aka subvert the original formula) and everyone with firsthand experience keeps looking at them like "stop overthinking it, it's not that complicated, he's evil." So having those two characters relive a modern version of a classic scene was on some "we're silencing all of that introspection and playing it straight for you guys." For a horror overthinker like me that ish was meta as hell. Unfortunately, the writers got away from that "we get it" acknowledgement all throughout the final act.
The closet scene is another great one that they kinda screwed up because they used it in teaser trailers, but I really liked how they set it up. Even though we're horror fans who know what's coming, they do a couple of things I like. First they make all the characters in that bit likeable and second they take their time getting to the pay off. I can't stress it enough that everyone knows what they're getting in a Halloween movie but sometimes rather than subverting the expectation, leaning into it so that we're holding our breaths waiting for Mike to step out can be better execution. The other thing is I actually liked the way they did the offscreen death for the BF here.
Then the backyard with the motion light followed by the running through the streets...not perfect but good enough to suspend disbelief and buy into the way the characters end up playing it. Again though...this is classic formula rather than some of the other rushed situations.
Then some standout bad ones...the Loomis stand-in doing nothing to restrain a psychotic killing force by his own admission and acting like their gonna be buddies. The idea of this dude's curiosity passing up his empathy is it's own cliche so the twist is only surprising in so much as I was expecting better from the writers. The father running out to an unresponsive cop car and approaching all the way up to it is flat out dumb and the payoff isn't a chase or anything. It's a creative dead body layout and instakill. Laurie finding the father's body in the closet is on some "yo Mike is a master of using decoys huh?" I wonder how many elaborate kill scenes he's laid out only to have the family pet knock a bunch of crap over and ruin the surprise.
The basement trap was lame and ended up an excuse for Laurie to shoot the hands with Michael in a way that makes him less intimidating and overpowering. First off, Laurie coulda just done what her daughter did and waited at the bottom of the stairs with the shotgun ready (not like Mike has ever smoked someone out...he comes straight at you and his only strategy has been the body decoy thing). If they wanted an excuse to get Laurie out of the basement for a final confrontation, the granddaughter arriving and looking around without knowing 1) that her family is right below her in safety; 2) that Michael is somewhere inside still would have been WAAAAAY better for tension top to bottom. That keeps Laurie from having to make a dumb decision; creates a way better chance to misdirect the audience; and then allows for Laurie to survive the confrontation because her family helps rather than because he didn't take opportunities to snap her neck like he did every other character he got his hands on.
Not tryna be overly negative either, I really liked it. I'll watch it again, prolly with my nieces and nephews because family tradition is the aunts and uncles pass on horror movie love to the youngsters. But it feels like they were MADD close to completely nailing it and instead they got to the red zone and turned it over. So it's just good where it could have been really great.
Edit: I gotta give yall a run down on Await Further Instructions later, I got that one in this weekend too.
On the real, the dr in this movie is basically a fanboy funhouse mirror reflection. He wants to believe there’s more to Michael. He needs there to be more. He has wild ass theories, believes he and Laurie are connected, believes there has to be a larger purpose to why Michael kills. And in the end, the movie shows how that obsession can be perverted and ultimately undone by the thing you’re obsessing over.
Like Laurie asks in the beginning, he killed five people and he needs to be understood? No he fukking doesn’t.
On the real, the dr in this movie is basically a fanboy funhouse mirror reflection. He wants to believe there’s more to Michael. He needs there to be more. He has wild ass theories, believes he and Laurie are connected, believes there has to be a larger purpose to why Michael kills. And in the end, the movie shows how that obsession can be perverted and ultimately undone by the thing you’re obsessing over.
Like Laurie asks in the beginning, he killed five people and he needs to be understood? No he fukking doesn’t.
That's why the podcaster kills was so money too. This dude was walking around with the mask like it'd get Michael to suddenly pull up a chair and chat; acting like Laurie and Michael would settle things with a conversation
That's why the podcaster kills was so money too. This dude was walking around with the mask like it'd get Michael to suddenly pull up a chair and chat; acting like Laurie and Michael would settle things with a conversation
I’m sorry bruhs but Halloween is my favorite horror series of all time and the original is in my top 5 movies just off the elegance John managed to pull off with that shoestring budget .. so I’m just very critical of how the franchise is treated and after catching this over the weekend I gotta say that I’m a bit disappointed.. I mean I’ll say this off the top .. it was shot clean I liked that they brought the SUSPENSE back with a lot of off cam murders and tense buildups but bruhhhh ...I’m left asking What was the actual point of doing this movie? A movie that is a SECOND attempt at a reboot within the past 10 years mind you..and 3rd or possibly 4th reboot overall
Does it further the story in any way? No
Does it introduce something creative and imaginative to the way the narrative is delivered? No
Does it take creative risk by bringing some true fanality between the protagonist and the antagonist? No
So what are we left with? Pure derivative rehashing ... and I’m probably being nice when I say “rehashing” because about 60% of this movie is literally scenes or straight up shots lifted from a prior film in the series ... that is just ridiculous to me ..this shyt is like a Puff Daddy remix ..anybody who’s watched the series and knows the movies should have been able to literally call out each seen (The closet scene/Laurie outside the school window/ Running over mike/ the fukking gas station killing to get his costume AGAIN! for like the 3rd time this series lol/ Laurie falling off the balcony and disappearing/ Laurie coming out of the shadows and having her face fade into the shot ...etc etc etc) I can go on and that’s just off the first viewing I’d probably find way more if I watch it again but it’s just like ...
But bruh if this is what y’all were going to do you might as well just spliced Halloween 1-6 up put all the hottest scenes together and dropped it as a commemorative blue ray disk because that’s basically what this movie is ... Andy what the fukk is up with them trying to take the “laurie aint his family no more” angle ... after all these years we supposed to rinse our minds of that plot device and believe he’s just some Rando psycho chasing her down? my nikka stop it ...
like I said tho .. it’s not a shyt movie even tho I’m being critical.. there are good parts .. I liked some of the character development I liked the inclusion of more black people everywhere lol I liked them making most of the kills a little less gratuitous and more about using your imagination ... but if all they’re going to come deliver is derivative chopped and slopped versions of the old movie .. I think it’s time we just put the boogie man to sleep for good I don’t want to see my favorite movie franchise go out flabby and sick bruh
Just got back from watching it. I thought it was good. I loved the increase in gore and brutality just to let people know this movie was not messing around. Would've liked Carpenter's score to have been used more.
Even though the sherrif was a careless idiot who brushed off Michael's escape and joked that he can't cancel Halloween, you'd at least think word would've gotten around town and everybody would've been on high alert.
Didn't know there was an after credits scene though. fukk Marvel for making that the wave.
I hope this is the last one. Against all odds they delivered critically and financially. Don't push it and go into Resurrection territory.
Just got back from watching it. I thought it was good. I loved the increase in gore and brutality just to let people know this movie was not messing around. Would've liked Carpenter's score to have been used more.
Even though the sherrif was a careless idiot who brushed off Michael's escape and joked that he can't cancel Halloween, you'd at least think word would've gotten around town and everybody would've been on high alert.
Didn't know there was an after credits scene though. fukk Marvel for making that the wave.
I hope this is the last one. Against all odds they delivered critically and financially. Don't push it and go into Resurrection territory.
On the real, the dr in this movie is basically a fanboy funhouse mirror reflection. He wants to believe there’s more to Michael. He needs there to be more. He has wild ass theories, believes he and Laurie are connected, believes there has to be a larger purpose to why Michael kills. And in the end, the movie shows how that obsession can be perverted and ultimately undone by the thing you’re obsessing over.
Like Laurie asks in the beginning, he killed five people and he needs to be understood? No he fukking doesn’t.
I wonder what came of everyone else who had escaped da bus. Surely, they weren't just gonna wander around town and that sheriff was a pure idiot in not understanding da severity of The Shape bein' on da loose.
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No he fukking doesn’t.
my nikka stop it ... 
I don’t want to see my favorite movie franchise go out flabby and sick bruh
