Official Black Panther MCU Thread

[Mortal1]

Boss shyt breh. Just placed my order as well.

I read half of the run using scans from torrent a couple of years back but I was always waiting for a omnibus or the collections like this updated version with new inks.

 

[Starman]

Priest on Marvel Editorial and Hudlin

As true as that might be Priest still dropped flames, and Reggie dropped a turd.

 

[Birnin Zana]

Priest reflects back on BP

PRIEST On BLACK PANTHER, Pt. 1: 'Everyone Kind Of Forgot Who PANTHER Was'

Yea, people forget that despite the great reviews priest is getting now, he had to go through a lot of bullshyt from both editorial and even non-BP comic book fans.

Plus, the book despite the reviews struggled in sales throughout the run, to the point that Marvel pushed for the Kasper Cole idea (I never fukked with that concept).

This is why to me Hudlin, at worst, was a necessary evil. He wasn't the best BP writer and the beginning of the run was mad shakey. But he knew how to market the character very well via event tie-ins, the TV show, the marriage, etc.. Hence why BP's profile went up during the run. He no longer was in the background like that.

 

[Birnin Zana]

As true as that might be Priest still dropped flames, and Reggie dropped a turd.

True, Priest dropped flames, and Reggie may have dropped a turd here and there. But, ironically, Reggie is one of the biggest reasons why BP has the profile he has now. Not Priest. Priest was the foundation, but as he even explained it, people really didn't fukk with it like that.

Without the Hudlin run, I doubt you would get the push he got in the comics, which raised fan demands, which then resulted in Feige acknowledging that BP was one of the characters the people wanted.

And yea Reggie's run had a really rough start, but it gets a bad rap. It had great stories in it, especially towards the end of his run. And BP and his mythos wasn't chumped out along the way.

 

[Primetime]

Just one more gem, that I think we allllll have encountered:

Where paths diverge between my vision of Panther and those previous is the character of T’Challa himself. I can’t speak for Mr. McGregor (whom I do not know), but my impression was he saw Panther as the ultimate realization of human potential whose bravery was exemplified in his willingness to risk his life in the service of others.

I see T’Challa that way as well, but I defer to Stan Lee, whose bedrock for this character was he was a man who outsmarted Reed Richards and out-fought the Thing. Those key notes seemed missing from McGregor’s Panther, and to me Stan (whom I do know) is Moses; his original concepts are the stone tablets of modern comics.

Thus, it made absolutely no sense to me that Panther wouldn’t at least nominally protect himself from things like small arms fire or stabbing weapons, and that, at the very least, he’d carry an iPhone (which is what his Kimoyo card essentially is).

The fan outrage was unexpected and a little off-putting, considering how poorly supported Panther has traditionally been. It seemed to me like, “We’re not actually going to buy any Black Panther comics, but how dare you make him smarter and more technologically advanced! Bring back the plain old spandex and get rid of the gadgets!”

I thought Panther could and likely should have been the Batman of the Marvel U. That character archetype was missing from Marvel’s pantheon, and Panther’s origins and motives are different enough from Batman’s to prevent him from being called a Batman rip-off.

If anything, now that Batman has become Iron Batman, with all that stupid armor and tech--wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong DC--he is following T’Challa’s lead and not the other way around.

The main thing preventing Black Panther from fulfilling that Batman niche for Marvel is, frankly, Marvel. Whether knowingly or subliminally, Marvel marketing--if not Marvel editorial--sees Panther in a racial context and, thus, as a less “pure” character than, say, Drax the Destroyer or the Sub-Mariner. I don’t mean racism so much as a level of sensitivity and concern for the reader’s ability to identify with and/or respond to these issues.

Disney better be taking notes

 

[Birnin Zana]

Just one more gem, that I think we allllll have encountered:







Disney better be taking notes

Breh I knew EXACTLY where he was going with this.

I'm confident every BP fan can not only cosigning Priest on this, but had the face when non-BP fans who don't know a thing about BP feel some type of way when he matches well against certain characters.

 

[Lannister]

I pretty much consider Priest's T'Challa the definitive. Cunning and calculating, always a step ahead of his peers/opponents. Brehs, you don't know how satisfying it is to watch that a$$hole, Stark, get chumped out by T'Challa

Shame, we will probably never see that in the films because Tony is pretty much the MCU golden boy.

 

[Birnin Zana]

Btw, great interview by Newsrama with Christopher Priest.

 

[Starman]

True, Priest dropped flames, and Reggie may have dropped a turd here and there. But, ironically, Reggie is one of the biggest reasons why BP has the profile he has now. Not Priest. Priest was the foundation, but as he even explained it, people really didn't fukk with it like that.

Without the Hudlin run, I doubt you would get the push he got in the comics, which raised fan demands, which then resulted in Feige acknowledging that BP was one of the characters the people wanted.

And yea Reggie's run had a really rough start, but it gets a bad rap. It had great stories in it, especially towards the end of his run. And BP and his mythos wasn't chumped out along the way.

I think theres a lot of truth here. BP marrying Storm, as gimmicky as it was, gave BP the most attention he's ever had. And if that and other things that Hudlin did are responsible for a BP movie, then great. I'm still not a fan at all of that run.

What do you mean chumped out, though? I thought BP in Priests run came across as strong, smart, and even devious (in a cool way).

 

[Birnin Zana]

I pretty much consider Priest's T'Challa the definitive. Cunning and calculating, always a step ahead of his peers/opponents. Brehs, you don't know how satisfying it is to watch that a$$hole, Stark, get chumped out by T'Challa

Shame, we will probably never see that in the films because Tony is pretty much the MCU golden boy.

Maaaaan, the frenemy beef Tony and T'Challa have is just

You could seriously make a movie off of those two alone, shyt was entertaining as fukk.

And that's not even an appetizer.

 

[Birnin Zana]

I think theres a lot of truth here. BP marrying Storm, as gimmicky as it was, gave BP the most attention he's ever had. And if that and other things that Hudlin did are responsible for a BP movie, then great. I'm still not a fan at all of that run.

What do you mean chumped out, though? I thought BP in Priests run came across as strong, smart, and even devious (in a cool way).

By chumped out, I was talking about after Hudlin left. From that point on, either Marvel editorial, the writer in question, or both, went in and made sure BP got some major (and even weird) L's. You had:

-Doomwar: making the panther God accept doom as a worthy ruler and forcing T'Challa to get rid of his vibranium deposits to "win" . The vibranium issue was resolved, but still.

- Man Without Fear: Going to Hell's Kitchen to "find himself" after doom war

-AvX: absolutely shytted on BP and Storm's marriage. Broke them up in the worst way. Made Marvel's most famous black characters look like a bunch of folks from Maury and Jerry Springer. Completely disgraceful.

-New Avengers: where do I begin...started well actually, but then T'Challa ended up doing dumb shyt after dumb shyt in the interest of the story, shyt he wouldn't normally do: join the illuminati...keeping them including Namor in Wakandan soil behind Shuri's back...getting exiled by shuri when she finds out...going through with the idea to build bombs to stop the marvel world (616) from blowing up, only to not pull the trigger...crying like a bytch about not pulling the trigger in front of his own father, who then disowns him cuz his bytchassness nearly doomed his people and the world to death...then it turns out his previous silly actions lowkey led to wakanda getting blown up by Thanos...his fam is gone and shuri have a final stand where she dies....talks about killing Namor but is mad clumsy about it and fails...and there's more bs after that...But I guess he smashed storm one more time so ?

Which is why im really cautiously optimistic for BP's new solo and group book. It seems marvel and/or a lot of these writers don't respect him like that, hence the bullshyt we've gotten for the pass 5-6 years.

They can't act up too much this time since he has a movie coming out. That's his shield from the bullshyt, tbh.

 

[Starman]

By chumped out, I was talking about after Hudlin left. From that point on, either Marvel editorial, the writer in question, or both, went in and made sure BP got some major (and even weird) L's. You had:

-Doomwar: making the panther God accept doom as a worthy ruler and forcing T'Challa to get rid of his vibranium deposits to "win" . The vibranium issue was resolved, but still.

- Man Without Fear: Going to Hell's Kitchen to "find himself" after doom war

-AvX: absolutely shytted on BP and Storm's marriage. Broke them up in the worst way. Made Marvel's most famous black characters look like a bunch of folks from Maury and Jerry Springer. Completely disgraceful.

-New Avengers: where do I begin...started well actually, but then T'Challa ended up doing dumb shyt after dumb shyt in the interest of the story, shyt he wouldn't normally do: join the illuminati...keeping them including Namor in Wakandan soil behind Shuri's back...getting exiled by shuri when she finds out, suggesting to build bombs to stop the marvel world (616) from blowing up, only to not pull the trigger...crying like a bytch about not pulling in from of his own father, who then disowns him cuz his bytchassness nearly doomed his people and the world to death...then it turns out his previous silly actions lowkey led to wakanda getting blown up, with his fam gone and shuri having a final stand where she dies....and there's more bs after that...But I guess he smashed storm one more time so ?

Which is why im really cautiously optimistic for BP's new solo and group book. It seems marvel and/or a lot of these writers don't respect him like that, hence the bullshyt we've gotten for the pass 5-6 years.

They can't act up too much this time since he has a movie coming out. That's his shield from the bullshyt, tbh.

@ the bolded. I'm glad I stopped during Hudlin's run.

Here's hoping the upcoming movie means BP gets the treatment he deserves.

 

[Birnin Zana]

@ the bolded. I'm glad I stopped during Hudlin's run.

Here's hoping the upcoming movie means BP gets the treatment he deserves.

Yea man after hudlin's run shyt got rough. If BP didn't have a movie he would've been bushes status with the L's he was getting.

 

[Birnin Zana]

More Bp vs. Ironman fukkery

BP one-ups stark...with Windex.

 

[Birnin Zana]

One thing I'm curious on is how Marvel / Disney will portray the Dora Milaje, BP's elite bodyguards.