Official Biden vs. Trump 2020 General Election Thread (Biden WINS 306 Electoral College Votes)

Who wins?

  • Joe Biden, Vice President of the USA (2009-2017)

    Votes: 440 81.6%
  • Donald Trump, President of the USA (2017-present)

    Votes: 99 18.4%

  • Total voters
    539
  • Poll closed .

The ADD

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2008 is Obama.

Unique?

You do know there are two Senate seats up in Georgia which almost never happens?

I’m lost on what you are saying. Dems lost 2008, 2012 and 2016 by essentially the same percentage point. So their is not a positive trend.

Sure there are two seats and the Dems are have an extremely weak list of candidates. Zero name recognition or major offices won.

You are hopefully but you have presented nothing that points to Biden flipping GA.
 

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I need you Debbie Downers to explain to me how trump wins other than not liking Biden and/or doing the overly pessimistic thing so you don’t get your hopes up? How does Trump hang on to MI and PA, the margins were so low and it’s clear it was an anti Hillary thing. WI, IA, and NC are really the only swing states to me. Neither AZ, TX, nor GA is flipping this year.

You think McSally is winning Arizona?
 

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I’m lost on what you are saying. Dems lost 2008, 2012 and 2016 by essentially the same percentage point. So their is not a positive trend.

Sure there are two seats and the Dems are have an extremely weak list of candidates. Zero name recognition or major offices won.

You are hopefully but you have presented nothing that points to Biden flipping GA.

They have a jungle primary and the Republicans field is weak too.
 

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I need you Debbie Downers to explain to me how trump wins other than not liking Biden and/or doing the overly pessimistic thing so you don’t get your hopes up? How does Trump hang on to MI and PA, the margins were so low and it’s clear it was an anti Hillary thing. WI, IA, and NC are really the only swing states to me. Neither AZ, TX, nor GA is flipping this year.
Right now I’m going to lean with the incumbent that at a minimum has his base intact and is not lukewarm there. He is facing a guy that as of right now doesn’t seem to have enough people fired up.
 

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They have a jungle primary and the Republicans field is weak too.
Lol it’s weak but the state is Red already, they have a sitting president and way more cash than the other side. You are out of touch here.
 

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You all know we’re not going to see much of either Joe or Trump come summer and fall right?

I’m starting to doubt that there will even be debates. :snoop:
 

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Which is why I said Dems will be paying more attention to it.

8 months out means nothing once Bloomberg and Obama go into it.

We’ll see. I guess.
So the Obama that didn’t come close to flipping the state as the candidate is now the tipping point for another candidate?

Bloomberg ain’t wasting cash in rural GA on ad buys.

Feel free to hope for the best but this whole idea you have is no more than that.
 

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Just going to leave this here and again ask how does Trump hang on to all three when it was sexist, anti Hillaryism and a failure to campaign that created this...not some outpouring of love for Trump

According to the final tallies, Trump won Pennsylvania by 0.7 percentage points (44,292 votes), Wisconsin by 0.7 points (22,748 votes), Michigan by 0.2 points (10,704 votes)
 

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Right now I’m going to lean with the incumbent that at a minimum has his base intact and is not lukewarm there. He is facing a guy that as of right now doesn’t seem to have enough people fired up.
Primary turnout has been up and Joe is winning the demos where it’s up, including splitting the independent vote with Bernie and killing it with working class voters and college educated suburban voters. Quite honestly it doesn’t seem like he needs to fire people up so much as people seem interested in what he offers, “a return to normalcy”.
 

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Right now I’m going to lean with the incumbent that at a minimum has his base intact and is not lukewarm there. He is facing a guy that as of right now doesn’t seem to have enough people fired up.
If this economy keeps moving down even after the stimulus, its going to be a disaster for Trump,

As for Biden, voter turnout in the primaries is way up over 2016...there’s no apathy this time around.
 

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Primary turnout has been up and Joe is winning the demos where it’s up, including splitting the independent vote with Bernie and killing it with working class voters and college educated suburban voters. Quite honestly it doesn’t seem like he needs to fire people up so much as people seem interested in what he offers, “a return to normalcy”.
Fair, can’t argue that.

My based on no facts gut is to go with the incumbent. Trump been dead about 12 times. I ain’t seen enough yet say he’s not the favorite right now. Doesn’t help that Biden gone Biden.
 
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