Official Biden vs. Trump 2020 General Election Thread (Biden WINS 306 Electoral College Votes)

[Jx2]

apparently theres also this

I'm checking in and lobbying for this and Trump state secessions. Comfortably from a blue state I might add

 

[Wild self]

Let these MAGA terrorist try to pull up in black neighborhoods in the south and Midwest. There will be a lot of slow singing and flowers bringing on their side. They are cowards and ain’t about shyt. Let them start a civil war there is millions of us that are itching to blow these inbred red neck chicken shots heads off.

Give those MAGA heads that Taliban treatment.

 

[eastside313]

This is a strawman. I wanted Trump out of office. I didn't need it.

It's Friday and y'all all drunk and emotional.

Ain’t nobody emotional stop it. You made a statement that you know ain’t true and i replied.

 

[Pressure]

"Them" isn't a singular masculine pronoun.

Biden doesn't operate by himself. You do know how federal government works, right?

He said,

hold Biden accountable means if they don’t finally put on for black people then fukk em. And good look getting elected next time without us.

They in this instance almost certainly stands for the Biden administration.

And who cares. This is the same theat leftist accelerationist were making over the past half a decade. Which is precisely my point.

When push comes to shove you all are not going to sit out under a regressive administration because it belies the logic of progress.

 

[Pressure]

Ain’t nobody emotional stop it. You made a statement that you know ain’t true and i replied.

Black people aren't a monolith. Is this not factual? Do the needs and wants of black Americans not shift based on their own personal, familial, regional, economic and cultural circumstances?

 

[Secure Da Bag]

Put on how?

Black people aren't a monolith. I imagine what I need vastly different than what others need. That's before we even get to wants.

Conversely, you could say my wants are for other people's needs.

Doesn't look like it. But do you.

 

[Pressure]

Doesn't look like it. But do you.

What is the singular need for all black people?

 

[eastside313]

Black people aren't a monolith. Is this not factual? Do the needs and wants of black Americans not shift based on their own personal, familial, regional, economic and cultural circumstances?

Your original statement on what holding Biden accountable means was poppy cock. You know what it mean. You be up in plenty of threads saying all types of Tom foolery when People are talking about holding Biden accountable and doing something for black people.

 

[Pressure]

Your original statement on what holding Biden accountable means was poppy cock. You know what it mean. You be up in plenty of threads saying all types of Tom foolery when People are talking about holding Biden accountable and doing something for black people.

I said progressives. You're attempting to pivot to black people on some dap fishing expedition.

But let me ask again.

What specific action are you expecting to hold Biden accountable for and what does that look like.

What are you must haves?
What are your red lines?
What policy positions did he commit to during the election that you he can not abandon?

Or, is this just one of those things where you think he's going to be someone different than who he was when he ran.

Let me know if we're dealing with the real world or just fantasy?

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

call it what you want to call it. What does it matter about your needs because you ok with democrats not doing chit for black folks.
If they don’t put on for black people Make sure you using that Jordan face in 4 years when the republicans back in office.

This ain't TLR. Express exactly what you want done and if it's feasible we will let you know. There's a million things that I want but some will be trickier than others. Joe doesn't have a magic wand but there are plenty of objectives he can accomplish.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

He said,



They in this instance almost certainly stands for the Biden administration.

And who cares. This is the same theat leftist accelerationist were making over the past half a decade. Which is precisely my point.

When push comes to shove you all are not going to sit out under a regressive administration because it belies the logic of progress.

Yes, he said "hold Biden accountable" and I agree. Part of holding him accountable is showing him that there will be real consequences if he doesn't uphold the rights and needs of his constituents. The first point at which we can clearly show that is by primarying his allies in 2022 and any other Democrats who have not shown themselves willing to embrace a pro-Black, pro-poor, pro-reform agenda.

And who cares. This is the same theat leftist accelerationist were making over the past half a decade. Which is precisely my point.

When push comes to shove you all are not going to sit out under a regressive administration because it belies the logic of progress.

First off, note I said to hit them in the PRIMARIES in 2022. And primaries have been a place where many centrists have been hit in the last 2 years.

But further, one of several reasons Hillary lost in 2016 was because many Black folk felt disillusioned by the failed promise of the Obama Administration and didn't bother to vote, resulting in extremely poor Black turnout in key swing states. Whether it is an overt strategy by activists or not, the simple truth is that there are plenty of Black folk, progressives, and young people who don't turn out to vote because they feel that government doesn't meet their needs, and plenty of others who are borderline. Biden's going to lose them in 2024 if he doesn't measure up, especially if he doesn't have an effective scare candidate like Trump to get them to the polls.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Just realized when you guys say, "hold Biden accountable" you mean return to the same dishonest arguments that haven't given progressives little if any major wins over the last half decade.

Blaming progressives for Hillary losing in 2016 claiming progressives have no leverage to hold centrists accountable

 

[eastside313]

I said progressives. You're attempting to pivot to black people on some dap fishing expedition.

But let me ask again.

What specific action are you expecting to hold Biden accountable for and what does that look like.

What are you must haves?
What are your red lines?
What policy positions did he commit to during the election that you he can not abandon?

Or, is this just one of those things where you think he's going to be someone different than who he was when he ran.

Let me know if we're dealing with the real world or just fantasy?

Bruh I’m not here for a policy back and forth. It’s time for democrats to step up to the plate for black people especially since this election made it clear who put Biden in office. They’ve been getting a free pass for far too long. Some of us want to see something for our vote. Not just getting Trump out of office.

 

[Poetical Poltergeist]

 

[mastermind]

I mean, that's the sort of fukkery I might get hyped for.

The "I'm gonna selectively declassify the shyt that makes my enemies look bad" moves are pure bullshyt. But total declassification would be entertaining as hell and might move this whole globe forward in a positive way.

You'd have to withhold certain names/details or otherwise warn particular folk in despotic regimes first who might be imprisoned/killed, of course.

That would be epic.

For all the bullshyt, Trump has probably been our most transparent president. This would be in line with that.