Official Biden vs. Trump 2020 General Election Thread (Biden WINS 306 Electoral College Votes)

Who wins?

  • Joe Biden, Vice President of the USA (2009-2017)

    Votes: 440 81.6%
  • Donald Trump, President of the USA (2017-present)

    Votes: 99 18.4%

  • Total voters
    539
  • Poll closed .

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I know them people in GA happy as fuk counting those votes :mjlol:

shyt gotta have MAGA mad watching them do it.


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I know them people in GA happy as fuk counting those votes :mjlol:

shyt gotta have MAGA mad watching them do it.

couldn’t be more poetic

that feeling counting the votes that will throw trump out of office

...and force mitch’s ho ass to support 2 senate runoff campaigns in January to desperately try and protect his majority

all while MAGA just watching, mad as fukk
 
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A couple random thoughts:

1. I don’t get this notion that the election was close because the dems did not have a young charismatic upstart/master politician ready to go. The republicans don’t have one either. Those guys/girls are once in a lifetime kind of candidates. What they do have is a demagogue that has been able to tap into a lot of people’s base fears, and biases racial and otherwise.

2. Obviously there’s an element of race we cannot ignore with the Trump clan, but we also have to be cognizant that it isn’t just “race.” We can’t commit a fallacy of a singular causation. Trump’s populism and his overall appeal to millions, and the widening line of demarcation between demographics isn’t just race driven. These are people with an entirely different worldview. We do ourselves a disservice if we attempt to shoehorn this reality into “one thing.” I also understand the desire to want to do that, because if you can fix “one” thing (as Herculean as the effort may be) you can’t make things right. Ultimately, America is really a conservative country masquerading as a progressive one.

3. Biden, for all intents and purposes appears to be a good man. This election showed that isn’t really important to the American populous, and that was a big part of Biden’s campaign. “Decent, trustworthy, a unifier, etc.” Well, not important enough to make people cross party lines. Being a good man isn’t a prerequisite for being the POTUS. I’ve never heard ANYONE in any context say Trump is a good man. Ironically, what we’ve seen in the last four years is that all it takes is wanton disregard from the president to basically weaponize everything from the FBI, DOJ, to funding, etc. The limits placed on a president are primarily self imposed. The president does actually need to be a decent person.

4. All the stories and leaks about Trump and co. were meted out much too far from Election Day. We live in a hyper-abbreviated news cycle. You can’t give people 2 months to marinate on a story and expect people to still care on Election Day. People forgot about that shyt weeks ago and went and casted their votes with a clear conscience.

5. As lost as some of our ADOS/FBA brothers and sisters are, I do understand how the thinking and disenfranchisement has happened. It hasn’t happened some vacuum. As marginalized, demonized, maligned, and downtrodden as black people have been in this country historically and still today - we’re often asked to save this country from itself. Those brothers and sisters that stopped the Trump Reich from continuing to go on in Detroit — are they going to get a political affirmative action mandate in regard to job and college applications? No. Legislature targeted specifically at black men and women? Probably not. It’s easy to tap into that energy and say, “what’s the point in voting then?” Obviously, there’s a misguided element when you start expecting something political without participating in politics.

6. Lastly, I was looking at George Orwell’s review of Mein Kampf on Youtube months ago and he said something that I’ve never really even thought about, but I’ve been perplexed by for months. He said that the failing of communism and socialism is that it tells people their life’s going to be perfect, and that those political schools of thought think that’s what people want to hear. But, consciously or subconsciously - people do not want a perfect life. We like some strife in our existence. We like feeling like there are things we have to overcome or even endure. Look at the the entirety of the election process from primaries on and I think there’s definitely some validity to it.



This one hell of a long winded incoherent word salad post. They're just coming out the woodworks :ld:
 

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A couple random thoughts:

1. I don’t get this notion that the election was close because the dems did not have a young charismatic upstart/master politician ready to go. The republicans don’t have one either. Those guys/girls are once in a lifetime kind of candidates. What they do have is a demagogue that has been able to tap into a lot of people’s base fears, and biases racial and otherwise.

2. Obviously there’s an element of race we cannot ignore with the Trump clan, but we also have to be cognizant that it isn’t just “race.” We can’t commit a fallacy of a singular causation. Trump’s populism and his overall appeal to millions, and the widening line of demarcation between demographics isn’t just race driven. These are people with an entirely different worldview. We do ourselves a disservice if we attempt to shoehorn this reality into “one thing.” I also understand the desire to want to do that, because if you can fix “one” thing (as Herculean as the effort may be) you can’t make things right. Ultimately, America is really a conservative country masquerading as a progressive one.

3. Biden, for all intents and purposes appears to be a good man. This election showed that isn’t really important to the American populous, and that was a big part of Biden’s campaign. “Decent, trustworthy, a unifier, etc.” Well, not important enough to make people cross party lines. Being a good man isn’t a prerequisite for being the POTUS. I’ve never heard ANYONE in any context say Trump is a good man. Ironically, what we’ve seen in the last four years is that all it takes is wanton disregard from the president to basically weaponize everything from the FBI, DOJ, to funding, etc. The limits placed on a president are primarily self imposed. The president does actually need to be a decent person.

4. All the stories and leaks about Trump and co. were meted out much too far from Election Day. We live in a hyper-abbreviated news cycle. You can’t give people 2 months to marinate on a story and expect people to still care on Election Day. People forgot about that shyt weeks ago and went and casted their votes with a clear conscience.

5. As lost as some of our ADOS/FBA brothers and sisters are, I do understand how the thinking and disenfranchisement has happened. It hasn’t happened some vacuum. As marginalized, demonized, maligned, and downtrodden as black people have been in this country historically and still today - we’re often asked to save this country from itself. Those brothers and sisters that stopped the Trump Reich from continuing to go on in Detroit — are they going to get a political affirmative action mandate in regard to job and college applications? No. Legislature targeted specifically at black men and women? Probably not. It’s easy to tap into that energy and say, “what’s the point in voting then?” Obviously, there’s a misguided element when you start expecting something political without participating in politics.

6. Lastly, I was looking at George Orwell’s review of Mein Kampf on Youtube months ago and he said something that I’ve never really even thought about, but I’ve been perplexed by for months. He said that the failing of communism and socialism is that it tells people their life’s going to be perfect, and that those political schools of thought think that’s what people want to hear. But, consciously or subconsciously - people do not want a perfect life. We like some strife in our existence. We like feeling like there are things we have to overcome or even endure. Look at the the entirety of the election process from primaries on and I think there’s definitely some validity to it.

Link to that review?
 

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If PA and GA break for the dems then you just might barely get a dem controlled senate with Kamala being the deciding vote
This election on the whole is entirely too close
Dems need to regroup and discuss how to better control their messaging going forward
 

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Only 138 million votes so far. So many people didn't care about this. Saying Republicans are bad people is not a winning message.

@DrDealgood I'd be shocked if we got to 50 percent voting even with the mail-ins.
 

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shyt ain't gone get that far (shouldn't) if he has a SMART legal team they would tell him there is no way those votes are getting not getting overturned especially when folks done spent the last 2-3 days after d-day counting votes.
 
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