Official Biden vs. Trump 2020 General Election Thread (Biden WINS 306 Electoral College Votes)

Who wins?

  • Joe Biden, Vice President of the USA (2009-2017)

    Votes: 440 81.6%
  • Donald Trump, President of the USA (2017-present)

    Votes: 99 18.4%

  • Total voters
    539
  • Poll closed .

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This is what desperation sounds like:

Trump Says He Will 'Cut Middle Class Taxes' as GOP Plans Increase Next Year

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-cut-middle-class-taxes-gop-increase-next-year-


President Donald Trump promised on Saturday that he would cut taxes on the middle class even further if he's elected to a second term on November 3. Tax cuts have long been part of his pitch to voters.

Trump told a campaign rally in Bucks County, Pennsylvania that if he secures a second term, middle class taxes will be further reduced, but critics charge Republicans in Congress intend to do the exact opposite.

"With your vote, I will cut middle class taxes even more," Trump said. "I mean, we cut them at the highest level in the history of our country. Even more. You saw what it did."

"That's why we're coming back so quick because we have a strong foundation, a base. And I will always defend and promote Pennsylvania energy and there will be no more lockdowns," Trump went on.

Despite the president's claims, the 2018 tax cuts were not the biggest in history in absolute terms or as a measure of GDP.

While Trump has repeatedly touted further tax cuts for middle class Americans, the Republican tax reforms will mean tax increases for most Americans between 2021 and 2027.

As Nobel Prize winning economist Joseph Stiglitz pointed out in The New York Times on Saturday, tax increases had already been approved by Congress in the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act.
 
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I don't know if we've discussed this yet but looking at some numbers it's expected that we will surpass 100 million votes cast by Tuesday. So how many votes are left for Election Day itself?

The highest possible turnout rate I could see would be 70% and I think that's too high. That would be 178.000.000 votes. I think the top end would be around 160,000,000 votes and even that would be juicing the most out of what I feel is possible..

Some people think it could be around 140 million but that'd be low considering last election was already 136 million. So I think we're looking at a range of 150-160 million votes.

Which would mean about 2/3 of votes have likely already been cast. Just my opinion.
 

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I don't know if we've discussed this yet but looking at some numbers it's expected that we will surpass 100 million votes cast by Tuesday. So how many votes are left for Election Day itself?

The highest possible turnout rate I could see would be 70% and I think that's too high. That would be 178.000.000 votes. I think the top end would be around 160,000,000 votes and even that would be juicing the most out of what I feel is possible..

Some people think it could be around 140 million but that'd be low considering last election was already 136 million. So I think we're looking at a range of 150-160 million votes.

Which would mean about 2/3 of votes have likely already been cast. Just my opinion.

Estimates put it at around 150 million.
 
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They had a thread earlier today, saying that "Real masculine" black men can tolerate Trump. Straight up anti-intellectualism.
Trump has been pushing this sort insecure male identity politics. It was evident in 2016, especially when he was running against the perfect foil for that sort of thing, Hillary Clinton. It’s depressing seeing Black men falling for that shyt though
 

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I hate these polls and how they always try to make it look close and down to the wire. Trump needs to win Pennsylvania just to be considered an underdog.

A few days ago he was saying even if the polls are off as much as they were in 2016 Biden wins.

These dudes are just hedging their bet because if they were somehow wrong again nobody would ever take a poll seriously
These 2 posts are part of the reason people were so caught off guard in 2016. Poll numbers are a point in time snapshot, a single poll doesn't tell you much but a series of polls over a period of time, tells you more.

A lot of early predictions are based on early voting numbers. No matter how that falls, there will almost always be a correction as you move closer to election day.

With that being said, what Nate was quoted as saying in the link, doesn't contradict what he previously said or has been actively saying. The points that were being made are 1. Biden's lead of 5% is still on the doorstep of the margin of error (4%), it has not risen like in other battleground states. 2. The bulk of PA voting will take place on election day, so there could be a big swing either way. 3. As well all know, the GOP is fighting hard to get as many mail-in ballots tossed out, which could have a major impact on who the state falls to.

PA is definitely the state to watch.
 
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