incorrect about what? all i'm saying is that texas and georgia aren't needed for a biden win. if he wins TX and GA then he has to win PA, WI, etc. winning GA and TX would just be running up the score.
so in your doomsday scenario biden still wins?
Official Biden vs. Trump 2020 General Election Thread (Biden WINS 306 Electoral College Votes)
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At this rate he should. If he wins by +8-9 nationally and only wins 280 EVs Democrats are in far bigger trouble than anyone thinks.I expect Biden to do Obama 08 numbers.
Reality Check
Keepin' it 100
I'm kinda curious whether Repubs will go for that if they wind up losing the senate and Presidency in a blowout. The way some of them are talking, they'd probably prefer him to just go away if he lost rather than continue to raise a fuss.
big big trouble. the republicans would be taking blood oaths that the electoral college shall stand forever. "electoral college now, electoral college forever.
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I'm thinking Maine all blue.. flips PA, MI and WI. Maybe Arizona. That's it. I'm giving the rest to Trump. But that would still put Biden over the top.
PA could be fukkery with vote count and challenges. Again the NC, AZ, GA path isn’t running up the score. It’s a legit way to get there in case of PA fukkery or delay.
Yes, doomsday in the sense Biden doesn’t grab PA outright.
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Here y'all go
PA isn't known for fukkery. GA with republicans controlling every significant facet of political life in that state is more ripe for fukkery than PA. i see no way biden wins GA and loses the election. it would be a reflection of a wave, not an isolated case.
I moved to PA two years ago and it's weird AF. It reminds me of how VA used to be, you had hubs of blue in Northern VA, Virginia Beach, and eventually Richmond, but most of the state was rural (I called Methville
) and filled with red everywhere else. Eventually, a lot of those red areas literally died off, moved off, and the blue areas just became that much more populated.PA is pretty "behind" so to speak in a lot of the state, and extremely path dependent, the "We've always done it this way" mentality permeates quite a bit. I'm actually worried and unfortunately can see Trump winning it.
The only way that Biden takes it is that the people caught up in Trump's celebrity and idea of being a non-politician see how much of a disaster he has been and stop buying into his bullshyt. Those people are tantamount to switch to Biden.
DrDealgood
Superstar
This is as optimistic as I can get and hope I can hold to it over the next week. I've said for a while that while I think things look good for Biden/Harris the surprises, cheats, fukkery and desperation of Trump's MAGAts and goons all over will result in some tightening, but I'm only shook to a point that Trump can win, so even with all the toss ups, I think it'll be a decisive Biden win.
Notes - may be wishful thinking on OH but I'm risking it since I'm here, and happy with the signals I'm seeing and hearing. Also think IA could surprise and NC, but GA is a dead heat and SC and FL will revert to their mean but with a smaller margin this time. TX is a true ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ and I think MT will be too, but would love it if any of them, especially TX, narrowly went to Biden like a few surprise states did in 08 for Obama.
Notes - may be wishful thinking on OH but I'm risking it since I'm here, and happy with the signals I'm seeing and hearing. Also think IA could surprise and NC, but GA is a dead heat and SC and FL will revert to their mean but with a smaller margin this time. TX is a true ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ and I think MT will be too, but would love it if any of them, especially TX, narrowly went to Biden like a few surprise states did in 08 for Obama.
Piff Perkins
Veteran
Even if you go to bed at midnight it’s unlikely that a winner will be declared. Too many mail ballots. But as I say many times lol, there’s a good chance we will know who won the following states before 11PM:Ive been daydreaming about going to bed with a smile on my face next Tuesday night followed by a full night's sleep.come on election gods. Make it happen.
I want to be like this, except still black.
FL
NC
AZ
OH
Maybe TX
all those states process or count ballots weeks before Election Day.
We are all on the same team here:
In regards to PA Trump has seems to Target that as the go to place for fukkery as a last resort.
GA (my perspective being here) is ripe but people raised so much hell between 2018 and the primaries that pathways to mitigate it were established. Not perfect by any means but most of the demo for suppression has taken advantage of the early vote.
I didn’t say he would win GA and lose the election. If Biden gets MN, MI, WI and a combo of NC/AZ/GA he’s at 285 without FL or PA. So my overarching point is that GA is not a for the hell of it state. It could be needed if shyt goes shythousery or delays with a count.
GA does as well
Interesting, just got called to take a poll. It was GA based most on the presidential and senate races. It was a live call. I know they aren’t the same but I struggle to think Trump supporters lie in a tangible way on those things after taking one.