They did the same thing in 2016 around because of the p*ssy tapes, so that does not really suggest anything
Official Biden vs. Trump 2020 General Election Thread (Biden WINS 306 Electoral College Votes)
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They did the same thing in 2016 around because of the p*ssy tapes, so that does not really suggest anything
I think that Biden really messed up by having Kamala Harris as his running partner. Two white women colleagues stated that they are not supporting Biden because they believe that they are trying to “sneak that woman into the position.”
Day_Walker
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I was thinking about this earlier today. I was imagining if trump kept going on about Biden's son to the point he lost control and ran over and snuffed himnot to put bad karma put there, but bidens the one scaring me right now. the cost/benefit isnt there
we're SO close to the election and he hasnt gotten covid, hasnt made a bad gaffe. just two more weeks
.Tbh it might not even be the most shocking thing to happen in 2020
Outlaw
New Hope For the HaveNotz
Those two bytches would be voting for Trump regardless with that type of logic
Smoking With Cigarettes
Superstar
Sounds like people who would love any reason to vote for Trump. fukk em
Fundraising says differently.
Day_Walker
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DJ Paul's Arm
Veteran
biden needs to be careful with how desperate trump is gonna be at this debatethis could be unlike nothing weve ever seen
Given the topics being discussed, it's going to be smooth sailing for Biden. He just needs to ignore Trump and don't allow him to get under his skin.
How can Trump attack biden on these topics?
- Fighting COVID-19
- American Families
- Race in America
- Climate Change
- National Security
- Leadership.
These are safe topics for Biden. He'll be fine.
yeah, they were voting for trump anyway. just trying to justify it to themselves
the kamala on that debate stage will do fine with women. lowkey kamala hasnt even been much of a factor
Black officers break from unions over Trump endorsements
Black officers break from unions over Trump endorsements
PHILADELPHIA (AP) — Police unions nationwide have largely supported President Donald Trump’s reelection, amid mass demonstrations over police brutality and accusations of systemic racism — but a number of Black law enforcement officers are speaking out against these endorsements, saying their concerns over entering the 2020 political fray were ignored.
Trump has touted his support from the law enforcement community, which includes endorsements from national, city and state officers’ unions — some of which publicly endorsed a political candidate for the first time. He’s running on what he calls a “law and order” platform and tapping into a strain of anger and frustration felt by law enforcement who believe they are being unfairly accused of racial discrimination.
There are more than 8,000 law enforcement agencies in the U.S., with large departments holding sway nationally. The number of minority officers in policing has more than doubled in the last three decades, but many departments still have a smaller percentage of Black and Hispanic officers compared to the percentage of the general population those communities make up.
Many fraternal Black police organizations were formed to advocate for equality within police departments but also to focus on how law enforcement affects the wider Black community. There have often been tensions between minority organizations and larger unions, like in August, when the National Association of Black Law Enforcement Officers issued a letter condemning use of deadly force, police misconduct and abuse in communities of color.
While support for the Republican incumbent does not strictly fall along racial lines, many Black officers say the endorsements for Trump don’t fairly represent all dues-paying members.
“We are members of these unions, and they don’t take into consideration our feelings about Donald J. Trump, then they don’t care about us and ... they don’t care about our dues,” said Rochelle Bilal, the recent past president of the Guardian Civic League of Philadelphia, calling the National Fraternal Order of Police’s Trump endorsement an “outrage.”
Bilal, who was elected as Philadelphia’s first Black female sheriff last year, spoke at at an early October news conference with other Black law enforcement groups in Philadelphia to condemn Trump endorsements and the process they say ignored their concerns over what they perceived to be racist remarks, support for white supremacist groups and a lack of respect for women from Trump.
But national union leaders say the process is designed to give everyone a voice and the endorsement represents the majority of officers. The Fraternal Order of Police represents close to 350,000 officers nationally, but does not track racial demographics.
“I am a Black American and a Black law enforcement officer,” said Rob Pride, the National Fraternal Order of Police chair of trustees. “It’s been emotionally a rollercoaster ride for me since the George Floyd incident. It was horrific.”
Pride, who oversees the vote that leads to the organization’s presidential endorsement, says the May 25 police killing of Floyd in Minneapolis and the political climate “is tearing America apart” and having a similar effect on the FOP.
National FOP leaders said they have heard from members who don’t agree with the Trump endorsement — and they’re open to talking over concerns — but that all 44 state Fraternal Orders of Police chapters that cast a ballot voted for Trump. Pride said the whole process starts locally, with lodges passing out candidate survey answers and ballots and then voting at a statewide meeting. State delegates then voted at the national meeting.
“We could probably have an hourlong conversation about why some folks feel President Trump is racist and why others disagree,” he said. “But there are a lot of officers of all races of all backgrounds who feel he best represents and supports the interests of law enforcement.”
On the local level, police reform bills driven by protests against police brutality in the wake of Floyd’s killing have also stoked local unions’ endorsements of candidates for state offices at higher rates this year — some issuing endorsement for the first time in decades. While many union leaders say the endorsements aren’t based on political parties, they have largely been for Republicans challenging candidates who have voted for what unions call “anti-police” reform bills.
Philadelphia’s FOP Lodge 5 President John McNesby said in a statement that the group, which represents 6,500 members, did not make an endorsement in the presidential race, and deferred to its parent union’s endorsement. But members said that despite being the largest lodge in the state, they weren’t given a chance to vote or be counted by the state or national delegates.
Denouncing the endorsement processes, The Guardian Civic League has asked its about 1,200 members to be prepared to withdraw their dues from the national FOP, as has the Club Valiants of Philadelphia — an organization of more than 500 minority firefighters — from the Local 22 of the International Fire Fighters and Paramedics Union. In endorsing Trump, Local 22 broke from its parent organization, which endorsed Democrat Joe Biden.
Valiants leaders said the Local 22′s endorsement was based on survey responses from about 500 of the union’s nearly 5,000 members. Local union leaders said a redo survey is being sent to members in response to the backlash and its endorsement will be revised if necessary by the end of the month.
“The election is Nov. 3, and people are out there voting now. What is it going to do to rescind the endorsement days before the election?” said John Elam, a Philadelphia firefighter and Valiants member. “We want a fair process. We wanted a fair process from the beginning.”
In New York City, Patrick Lynch — the head of the Police Benevolent Association that represents about 24,000 officers — announced the union’s endorsement of Trump at August’s Republican National Convention, something members said they had no warning would happen. An unsigned letter from the Guardians Association said the Black and minority officers the group represents felt blindsided by Lynch’s endorsement and wished the union had stayed neutral.
Lynch said it was the union’s first presidential endorsement in at least 36 years.
“That’s how important this is,” Lynch said to the crowd during an event at Trump’s golf club in Bedminster, New Jersey, telling the president: “You’ve earned this.”
During September’s presidential debate, Trump ticked off the locations where he felt he had support from law enforcement. “I have Florida, I have Texas, I have Ohio,” he said. “Excuse me, Portland, the sheriff there just came out today and said, ‘I support President Trump.’”
That sheriff — Multnomah County Sheriff Mike Reese — quickly took to Twitter to deny any support.
Terrance Hopkins, president of the Black Police Association of Dallas, said a handful of officers left the Dallas Police Department’s largest union, partly driven by its support for Trump, and had joined his organization.
“A lot of these officers feel like they aren’t being considered. A lot of the issues that push them to that point border along racial lines,” Hopkins, a 30-year veteran officer, said. “And it’s not just here. I got a call from some Black officers in Kansas City, Missouri, who wanted to join my organization because they don’t have any other outlet and they don’t feel like they are being represented.”
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Associated Press writers Susan Haigh in Hartford, Connecticut, and Colleen Long in Washington contributed to this report.
Saysumthinfunnymike
VOTE!!!
I've been watching this guy's posts lately.. I can see now what this is.... Concern trolling at best... full on Trump supporter at worst.
Take a look at the join date too. 2015. Less than 500 total posts but very active around that time and now again 4 years later..
What you think brehs?
Just think about what they said. “That woman” because she’s Black-Indian? The fact they would vocally go against a woman publicly to make co-worker with no reference to a policy disagreement tells you everything.
Foxmulder
Superstar
And look who co-signed his post.I've been watching this guy's posts lately.. I can see now what this is.... Concern trolling at best... full on Trump supporter at worst.
Take a look at the join date too. 2015. Less than 500 total posts but very active around that time and now again 4 years later..
What you think brehs?
Those 2 women were voting for Trump regardless. Anyways, Kamala literally re-energized Biden's campaign. The Biden campaign broke fundraising records in the 24-48 hours after he announced her as his VP.
Furthermore, Kamala in most polls has a positive/neutral approval rating. Additionally, you have to remember that some white woman can be very misogynistic towards fellow women - especially when it comes to black women.
Hillary was hated just as much, if not, more by white women as she was by white men
