Official Biden vs. Trump 2020 General Election Thread (Biden WINS 306 Electoral College Votes)

Who wins?

  • Joe Biden, Vice President of the USA (2009-2017)

    Votes: 440 81.6%
  • Donald Trump, President of the USA (2017-present)

    Votes: 99 18.4%

  • Total voters
    539
  • Poll closed .

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How early is Texas usually called?
polls close at 7 pm CST

usually it doesnt take long to call texas cause its reliably republican. if a democratic candidate won there (i think this is unlikely) it would probably take until the morning to call it because it would be closer than usual
 

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I mean to some degree this has to be expected. From a Georgia perspective it’s day one of early voting. I’m not saying it’s ideal but anytime you have massive turnout going through a funnel there will be delays.

Delays are one thing, but no one should have to wait more than an hour to vote. Two in the event of a failure.

I am sorry, but there really isn't an excuse. This is America. Resources shouldn't be a problem. People with power have decided the resources allocated to this endeavour SHOULD be a problem, and for that they should be locked up. It's insidious.

It's the same shyt you sanction countries and overturn governments for. 'FREE AND FAIR ELECTIONS. Practice what you preach.

Sorry for the rant, but voter suppression is obscene.
 

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Delays are one thing, but no one should have to wait more than an hour to vote. Two in the event of a failure.

I am sorry, but there really isn't an excuse. This is America. Resources shouldn't be a problem. People with power have decided the resources allocated to this endeavour SHOULD be a problem, and for that they should be locked up. It's insidious.

It's the same shyt you sanction countries and overturn governments for. 'FREE AND FAIR ELECTIONS. Practice what you preach.

Sorry for the rant, but voter suppression is obscene.
I disagree purely on the premise this is day one of early voting in GA. If it continues into the end of the week.........

You have account for a funnel of processing that you can’t fully satisfy across the board on all fronts
 

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I disagree purely on the premise this is day one of early voting in GA. If it continues into the end of the week.........

You have account for a funnel of processing that you can’t fully satisfy across the board on all fronts

You have the census. You have voter rolls. You are trying to tell me the early voting crush couldn't have been forecasted and accounted for if Georgia really wanted to? You believe that?
 

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Let's speculate. If Cunningham takes NC is there any way that Biden doesn't take NC? Seems like it would be a package deal to me.
it is possible, but very unlikely. in 2016 cooper won even though trump won the state so NC has ballot-split before

i think tillis is a very unpopular senator so he could lose even if trump is still popular enough to be re-elected.
 

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You have the census. You have voter rolls. You are trying to tell me the early voting crush couldn't have been forecasted and accounted for if Georgia really wanted to? You believe that?
I think you are slightly overacting to the first day of a three week period. Every single place wasn’t like that. I voted in 15 mins.

I’m not saying there isn’t voter suppression and that it can’t be better but if you ever opened anything there is ceiling of people wanting to enter a building versus what you can realistically process through at the very start. You have people that camped out as early as 4am and people fine with waiting. On day one of an three week period that can’t defeated.

If the lines across the board are that long at the end of the week it’s a different story.
 
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I obviously can't speak for the whole country, but I don't know one single black man or woman in NYC voting for Trump...

I'm heavily involved in Queens, I didn't have to convince anybody not to vote Trump cuz ain't nobody round here voting for that clown...:yeshrug:
i doubt trump is really gaining minorities, but i think he is retaining the ones who are already right wing. my aunt is a lifelong black republican who hates mexicans. she is voting for trump and has yelled at my mom in defense of at least 2 republican presidents when they have political conversations :russ:
 

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NC used to split all the time. Local Democratic Party is traditionally more conservative than national party. Had all Democratic rule in state govt for years and still elected Jesse Helms to the Senate year after year.

I say that to say, the local Dems will outpace the national Dems by 3-4 points typically. Roy Cooper is as conservative and inoffensive a Democrat as you can get. If he was a Senator he would be repping WV, if you catch my drift. And Tillis is toxic for his time in the state legislature. Those two factors explain why Cunningham and Cooper are polling with 6-10 point leads.

I think they actually pull Biden pretty easily over the top here.
 

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I think you are slightly overacting to the first day of a three week period. Every single place wasn’t like that. I voted in 15 mins.

I’m not saying there isn’t voter suppression and that it can’t be better but if you ever opened anything there is ceiling of people wanting to enter a building versus what you can realistically process through at the very start. If the lines across the board are that long at the end of the week it’s a different story.
How long has this gone on? How many years? How many people have had to leave the line because they were in it for hours and had to get to work?

America needs to allocate the resources to this problem, and fix it.

If it was a one off influx it would be understandable based on your example. This happens every election. It's a pattern being repeated in specific states for a specific purpose.
 

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How long has this gone on? How many years? How many people have had to leave the line because they were in it for hours and had to get to work?

America needs to allocate the resources to this problem, and fix it.

If it was a one off influx it would be understandable based on your example. This happens every election. It's a pattern being repeated in specific states for a specific purpose.
I think you are conflating early voting with Election Day voting. You don’t typically hear of these issues for early voting. That’s an important distinction. No offense but specific to early voting I think you have a blind spot not being in the US. It doesn’t invalidate your premise that overall system should be better (and I agree) but give it a few days.
 
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