Official Biden vs. Trump 2020 General Election Thread (Biden WINS 306 Electoral College Votes)

Who wins?

  • Joe Biden, Vice President of the USA (2009-2017)

    Votes: 440 81.6%
  • Donald Trump, President of the USA (2017-present)

    Votes: 99 18.4%

  • Total voters
    539
  • Poll closed .

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hate to say it, but this is kind of a huge gift to trump

last week the number 1 issue was his failure on the virus, now this is an enormous distraction from that. this is polarizing and ugly and huge news for the next 6 weeks
Huge news in the bubble but not so much outside.
 

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Dude on Twitter is capping. They were holding signs and saying "4 more years" but weren't physically preventing anyone from voting.
I won’t argue that but it’s still out of place. Traditionally grounds of polling places have been kept clean either side supporting their candidate in that manner.
 

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“2016, Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas): “It has been 80 years since a Supreme Court vacancy was nominated and confirmed in an election year. There is a long tradition that you don’t do this in an election year.”

2018, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.): “If an opening comes in the last year of President Trump’s term, and the primary process has started, we’ll wait to the next election.”

2016, Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.): “I don’t think we should be moving on a nominee in the last year of this president’s term - I would say that if it was a Republican president.”

2016, Sen. David Perdue (R-Ga.): “The very balance of our nation’s highest court is in serious jeopardy. As a member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, I will do everything in my power to encourage the president and Senate leadership not to start this process until we hear from the American people.”

2016, Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa): “A lifetime appointment that could dramatically impact individual freedoms and change the direction of the court for at least a generation is too important to get bogged down in politics. The American people shouldn’t be denied a voice.”

2016, Sen. Thom Tillis (R-N.C.): “The campaign is already under way. It is essential to the institution of the Senate and to the very health of our republic to not launch our nation into a partisan, divisive confirmation battle during the very same time the American people are casting their ballots to elect our next president.”

2016, Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.): “In this election year, the American people will have an opportunity to have their say in the future direction of our country. For this reason, I believe the vacancy left open by Justice Antonin Scalia should not be filled until there is a new president.”

2016, Sen. Roy Blunt (R-Mo.): “The Senate should not confirm a new Supreme Court justice until we have a new president.”

2016, Sen. Cory Gardner (R-Col.): “I think we’re too close to the election. The president who is elected in November should be the one who makes this decision.”

2016, Sen. Rob Portman (R-Ohio): “I believe the best thing for the country is to trust the American people to weigh in on who should make a lifetime appointment that could reshape the Supreme Court for generations. This wouldn’t be unusual. It is common practice for the Senate to stop acting on lifetime appointments during the last year of a presidential term, and it’s been nearly 80 years since any president was permitted to immediately fill a vacancy that arose in a presidential election year.”

2016, Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wisc.): “I strongly agree that the American people should decide the future direction of the Supreme Court by their votes for president and the majority party in the U.S. Senate.”
We keep quoting these folks like we expect them to stop being hypocrites.

They have no morals. Democrats try to keep a level of morality and it has cost them. Both parties operating at the level of the GOP destroys America though, whether it's justified or not.

So yes, the dems can expand the Supreme court and do a bunch of other stuff, but at that stage whether you think so or not the republic is over, working together for the good of the country is destroyed. It's basically political civil war.

Putin must be somewhere laughing his ass off. Free chicken.
 

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“2016, Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas): “It has been 80 years since a Supreme Court vacancy was nominated and confirmed in an election year. There is a long tradition that you don’t do this in an election year.”

2018, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.): “If an opening comes in the last year of President Trump’s term, and the primary process has started, we’ll wait to the next election.”

2016, Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.): “I don’t think we should be moving on a nominee in the last year of this president’s term - I would say that if it was a Republican president.”

2016, Sen. David Perdue (R-Ga.): “The very balance of our nation’s highest court is in serious jeopardy. As a member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, I will do everything in my power to encourage the president and Senate leadership not to start this process until we hear from the American people.”

2016, Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa): “A lifetime appointment that could dramatically impact individual freedoms and change the direction of the court for at least a generation is too important to get bogged down in politics. The American people shouldn’t be denied a voice.”

2016, Sen. Thom Tillis (R-N.C.): “The campaign is already under way. It is essential to the institution of the Senate and to the very health of our republic to not launch our nation into a partisan, divisive confirmation battle during the very same time the American people are casting their ballots to elect our next president.”

2016, Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.): “In this election year, the American people will have an opportunity to have their say in the future direction of our country. For this reason, I believe the vacancy left open by Justice Antonin Scalia should not be filled until there is a new president.”

2016, Sen. Roy Blunt (R-Mo.): “The Senate should not confirm a new Supreme Court justice until we have a new president.”

2016, Sen. Cory Gardner (R-Col.): “I think we’re too close to the election. The president who is elected in November should be the one who makes this decision.”

2016, Sen. Rob Portman (R-Ohio): “I believe the best thing for the country is to trust the American people to weigh in on who should make a lifetime appointment that could reshape the Supreme Court for generations. This wouldn’t be unusual. It is common practice for the Senate to stop acting on lifetime appointments during the last year of a presidential term, and it’s been nearly 80 years since any president was permitted to immediately fill a vacancy that arose in a presidential election year.”

2016, Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wisc.): “I strongly agree that the American people should decide the future direction of the Supreme Court by their votes for president and the majority party in the U.S. Senate.”
translation: "there's a dark skinned democrat in the white house, we cannot and must not allow him to put another scotus on the court.... but uh, if there's a white conservative in the white house then there is no bad time to give him as many picks as he wants".....
 

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We keep quoting these folks like we expect them to stop being hypocrites.

They have no morals. Democrats try to keep a level of morality and it has cost them. Both parties operating at the level of the GOP destroys America though, whether it's justified or not.

So yes, the dems can expand the Supreme court and do a bunch of other stuff, but at that stage whether you think so or not the republic is over, working together for the good of the country is destroyed. It's basically political civil war.

Putin must be somewhere laughing his ass off. Free chicken.

There's really no choice at this point.

Either the Dems have to throw normalcy in the bushes if they win the Senate, or the civil rights and protections for people that aren't rich white guys will be rolled back. Abortion, affirmative action, Obamacare, voting rights, all that shyt is going to go by the wayside if the GOP controls the courts for the next 30 years.
 

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If trump were smart he'd wait til after the election to make a pick
He is giving up a lot of the ghost by rushing to get another pick before the election
If you don't control the senate then yeah its a bust but if you use this as a way to bring the middle-right republicans back to you. You can change what the last few weeks of the election will be about

There is a big sense of urgency for repubs to fill this seat by the day of the election, which is why they are trying to set this in motion very quickly.

Because the Arizona seat is a special election, winner of that seat gets sworn in almost immediately, possibly before November ends. If things stay where they are and McSally loses, repubs now only have a 2 seat advantage until January. With Collins on record saying essentially she won't cast a vote for a lame duck Trump candidate and the Alaskan senator saying she won't vote for anyone who will strike down roe v wade, Dems would need just one senator to put their foot down and say no and trump would not get his pick confirmed. Perfect poetic justice for Mitt Romney of all people to deny a lame duck trump a supreme court pick.
 
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