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I'll take whoever wins the primary. They are both damn near the same candidate anyways.


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I'll take whoever wins the primary. They are both damn near the same candidate anyways.


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i agree about voting for both but i would say on economics you can call it a draw but on foreign policy nah, even though bernie is not perfect (supported some drone bombing) but hes not as bad as warren on it
 

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i agree about voting for both but i would say on economics you can call it a draw but on foreign policy nah, even though bernie is not perfect (supported some drone bombing) but hes not as bad as warren on it
I'll be honest, foreign policy is a low priority for me. As long as Sanders and Warren aren't threatening foreign relationships like trump, or bombing people like Bush and Obama. I dont care how lack luster their foreign policy is.

Infrastructure, racism, healthcare, affordable housing and college is what I'm concerned about this election. And I want to hear drastic changes, not that incremental bullshyt Democrats usually push.


I'd prefer Bernie, but I wouldn't be mad at all if Warren won over him. I support both candidates.
 

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I'll be honest, foreign policy is a low priority for me. As long as Sanders and Warren aren't threatening foreign relationships like trump, or bombing people like Bush and Obama. I dont care how lack luster their foreign policy is.

Infrastructure, racism, healthcare, affordable housing and college is what I'm concerned about this election. And I want to hear drastic changes, not that incremental bullshyt Democrats usually push.


I'd prefer Bernie, but I wouldn't be mad at all if Warren won over him. I support both candidates.
i feel like warren would be not much diff than obama in terms of bombing, shyt even bernie would prob continue some of the bombing. heres why i think foreign policy is important, theres a right wing faction dominating the world right now, trump, bolsinaro, australia just elected a conservative to lead the country, brexit in britain, theresa may in france. i think bernie has been shouting out left wing govs in the world or left wing politicians like corbyn or lula for example. and i think in that sense its important to not have these fasicists have that much influence. but yeah i agree all the domestic stuff is def a bigger priority. health care is prob my biggest issue which i know warren has signed on to m4a but that doesnt necessarily mean she will push for it, she has kind of hedged her rhetoric and talked about so called other ways of improving health care that keep the private insurance in control, where as I trust bernie will push hard for it. those are my reasons for leaning bernie but i do like warren too
 

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Bernie's plan to push his policies through.

Bernie is basically saying He will Pull Up. and we know its true because he pulled up on walmart a few days ago. Look as a black person, I still can't stand the type of answer he gives when someone hits him up about reparations. And i think thats that white man cism tingling in his spine with the answer he gives. But with that said, there isnt a single candidate running thats perfect to my liking. Its Bern, warren, Yang, you can throw in that other white lady thats about them reparations too for good measure. But when you have dude thats been preaching the same income equality message since the what? 60's, 70's? and you see him pull up on walmart, after running for prez in 2016 and changing even the establishment dems platforms to a more progressive "income equality push". on top of some of the new freshmen we have in congress that were more or less bernie-ites. You have to realize this dude is the one for right now. If you pass up on him and vote for bernie, or kamala aka establishment dems bka republican lites. You are an idiot. You finally have a legit choice not the usual "lesser of two evils".
 

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Bernie is basically saying He will Pull Up. and we know its true because he pulled up on walmart a few days ago. Look as a black person, I still can't stand the type of answer he gives when someone hits him up about reparations. And i think thats that white man cism tingling in his spine with the answer he gives. But with that said, there isnt a single candidate running thats perfect to my liking. Its Bern, warren, Yang, you can throw in that other white lady thats about them reparations too for good measure. But when you have dude thats been preaching the same income equality message since the what? 60's, 70's? and you see him pull up on walmart, after running for prez in 2016 and changing even the establishment dems platforms to a more progressive "income equality push". on top of some of the new freshmen we have in congress that were more or less bernie-ites. You have to realize this dude is the one for right now. If you pass up on him and vote for bernie, or kamala aka establishment dems bka republican lites. You are an idiot. You finally have a legit choice not the usual "lesser of two evils".
FYI, Tulsi signed the reparations bill as well.
 

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I admire Bernie's focus on activating the grassroots and masses, and I do believe that approach is necessary for creating long-term progressive change, but to eschew the powers of the Executive office at a time when it's the most powerful it's ever been in the history of this country is absurd and would be a tragic dereliction of duty, following in the Democratic Party's trademark fear and unwillingness to wield power. We're living in the times of the Imperial Presidency, a progressive President should act like it. It strikes me as the same institutionalist pathology that led to his refusal to endorse getting rid of the filibuster.
where did bernie say he would not use the powers of the Executive office? he didnt. So why would you REACH to pull a negative critique on him when there is non in this video? Unlesss, you're one of those bernie haters because you love that establishment dem nonsense. OR you're just a negative nancy who will always look for the negative possibility even when that thing was not stated in this video at all. so which is it?

But to address your so called fear. What are you advocating? He do a trump? pull a bunch of executive orders? Sure he could do that on quite a few fronts like obama started to do at the tail end of his last term. But there's a reason even obeezy didnt do it earlier aside from his soft reach across the aisle approach. It's because those orders only last as long as you're president. and it only further entrenches the other side. so if you need their votes or some of their votes for anything down the road, you will never get them. which means your entire policy platform will be 100% executive priv. which wont work for the long haul after bernie is out of office.

what a president wants more than anything is for his/her plans to Last well beyond their presidency. because its going to take more than 4 or even 8 years to start to see the benefits of said policies. executive orders will just get over turned as soon as the next person gets in office that doesnt agree with you. if those things are law. it will take the next president quite a bit to reverse those laws see the ACA(but dems had the numbers to pull that off).

now if nothing else works, then sure Exec orders. its that bad right now and pray after the orders are pulled that the people will then once again, lean on their elected officials in their home states to push for those things to become ACTUAL LAW.

SO no matter how you slice it, you want the things to become actual law not signed in via exec priv.
 

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FYI, Tulsi signed the reparations bill as well.
Bill? Or a look into Reparations panel? there's a difference. but I like Tulsi too. I just think Tulsi should be my the Secretary of State. Which is why I also think Warren who wouldnt make a bad prez should be placed as the Fed Chair person. see i want professionals that know what they are doing that have already fought these fights at different levels. to do so at the highest levels possible. thats how you straighten up these money issues. you put people in place thats ready to run on the first day.
 
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Bill? Or a look into Reparations panel? there's a difference. but I like Tulsi too. I just think Tulsi should be my the Secretary of State. Which is why I also think Warren who wouldnt make a bad prez should be placed as the Fed Chair person. see i want professionals that know what they are doing that have already fought these fights at different levels. to do so at the highest levels possible. thats how you straighten up these money issues. you put people in place thats ready to run on the first day.
Where the 2020 Democratic presidential candidates stand on reparations

Tulsi Gabbard: The U.S. Representative for Hawaii's 2nd Congressional District, Gabbard is the only current presidential candidate who is also a co-sponsor of H.R. 40.
 

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health care is prob my biggest issue which i know warren has signed on to m4a but that doesnt necessarily mean she will push for it, she has kind of hedged her rhetoric and talked about so called other ways of improving health care that keep the private insurance in control, where as I trust bernie will push hard for it.
It's really that simple. Bernie is better than Warren. :manny:
 
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