Official 2025 March Madness Thread

[Whips-n-Chains]

12' UK over 08' KU. If Memphis made their free throws we would be having a different convo on 08' KU. CDR and D-Rose going 1-4 at the line, with a 2 pt lead and 16 seconds left. AD was a monster in 12' and I don't Kabsas would've had anything for him.

All day. 08 KU wasn't anything crazy. 09 UNC was a damn good team tho

 

[Whips-n-Chains]

@Trips
@MikelArteta



I still don't get what 'Nova offers besides a little more prestige. MD/DMV is better recruiting grounds, Maryland is a rapid fan base, it's not some football school that doesn't gaf about basketball....I have to imagine UMD can match whatever Nova is offering.

Y'all think he's really about to do this?

 

[Thatrogueassdiaz]

12' UK over 08' KU. If Memphis made their free throws we would be having a different convo on 08' KU. CDR and D-Rose going 1-4 at the line, with a 2 pt lead and 16 seconds left. AD was a monster in 12' and I don't Kabsas would've had anything for him.

That Kansas team's post had Darrell Arthur, Darnell Jackson, Cole Aldrich, Russell Robinson and Sasha Khan. They definitely had bodies for Anthony Davis.

However, KU had issues with Dorsey and Dozier in the paint that game. I can't imagine what Anthony Davis and Michael Kidd Gilchrist would have done to them.

Ironically that UK team went against Self and KU for the title that year. KU made it respectable against a stacked UK team. I can't imagine what Self would have done with his 08 roster in that game.

I can't say you are wrong but the 08 tournament was loaded with great teams. KU defeating an elite team like Memphis 08 and then the future champs in 09 UNC, who I believe weren't as good as the 08 tarheels that KU faced, is no easy task, especially compared to what UK faced in 2012.

On paper you have to say 2012 UK but I don't know if they win.

 

[Thatrogueassdiaz]

All day. 08 KU wasn't anything crazy. 09 UNC was a damn good team tho

See my above post

 

[Trips]

@Trips
@MikelArteta



I still don't get what 'Nova offers besides a little more prestige. MD/DMV is better recruiting grounds, Maryland is a rapid fan base, it's not some football school that doesn't gaf about basketball....I have to imagine UMD can match whatever Nova is offering.

Y'all think he's really about to do this?

I've not been high on him. So I think he's striking while the iron is hot and getting out before he's exposed. Year 1 they made the tournament but nothing special. They underachieved significantly last season. This season they got hot at the right time, but there were still some shaky moments where things could have went south. He could easily come back start out bad and the fans will be on his neck. We've been dying for deep tourney run so everyone is just loving him and the team right now. Which they should love the kids, but you can pump the brakes on Willard.

 

[MikelArteta]

@Trips
@MikelArteta



I still don't get what 'Nova offers besides a little more prestige. MD/DMV is better recruiting grounds, Maryland is a rapid fan base, it's not some football school that doesn't gaf about basketball....I have to imagine UMD can match whatever Nova is offering.

Y'all think he's really about to do this?

It's NIL breh

The budget for mens basketball this year at Maryland was around $3m for the team. For comparison, Cooper Flagg is getting $4.8m himself at duke. Byu giving AJ dynansta 5 mill

Michigan State's budget is around $10m.

Villanova gave eric dixon almost 2 mill this past year alone

 

[Whips-n-Chains]

I've not been high on him. So I think he's striking while the iron is hot and getting out before he's exposed. Year 1 they made the tournament but nothing special. They underachieved significantly last season. This season they got hot at the right time, but there were still some shaky moments where things could have went south. He could easily come back start out bad and the fans will be on his neck. We've been dying for deep tourney run so everyone is just loving him and the team right now. Which they should love the kids, but you can pump the brakes on Willard.

Yea...personally I think your team is extremely talented, but I don't think they're succeeding b/c of Willard's coaching.

Is Nova throwing mad loot at NIL? Maryland get's like $75M/year off the B1G TV deal alone, I have to think UMD's budget is or will be bigger than Nova's.

 

[Whips-n-Chains]

It's NIL breh

The budget for mens basketball this year at Maryland was around $3m for the team. For comparison, Cooper Flagg is getting $4.8m himself at duke. Byu giving AJ dynansta 5 mill

Michigan State's budget is around $10m.

Villanova gave eric dixon almost 2 mill this past year alone

Then Maryland needs to wake tf up and be willing to spend more. There's obviously more TV money coming in than what Nova's getting, but the alumni need to get more involved.

MSU benefits greatly from having a billionaire that played for Izzo, but I know our football NIL isn't up to par...at least not up to par with what it takes to compete for the conference.

 

[MikelArteta]

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. Last offseason, the consensus was a team needed to spend $3-5 million on its roster to be competitive at the high-major level. This year that number is expected to fall in the $5-8 million range, with some of the top spenders expected to reach $10 million.



“You need $7 million to be in the mix, when last year $4 million could get you a really good team,” a general manager of a high-major program said.

“Everybody’s coming up with all this money to front-load in addition to the back end of rev share. So if your rev share is $2.7 million from the school, people are trying to raise $5 million in addition to that, where you can pay to retain guys, plus go out and spend a whole bunch of money for transfers.”

While it is not a given that Wilken will approve the settlement on April 7 — administrators expect approval will come in the weeks that follow, and the direct revenue sharing model would take effect in July — just to be safe, coaches are using that date as a deadline to get deals signed to retain current players and, if possible, sign new ones because they know the terms. NIL deals (for both high school prospects and transfers) signed before the House settlement is finalized and paid before June 30 do not have to go through the clearinghouse.

“Right now we’re trying to get as much done before revenue sharing kicks in on April 7 as we can,” an SEC assistant said. “Because obviously what we have to operate with is going to be drastically reduced through the rev share — partially because we are in the SEC and football is king in this conference. For this year’s team specifically, we’re trying to get as much done before April 7. And then whatever we are allotted through the revenue share we will then use for the rest of the transfer portal class we have to bring in.”

Once the settlement goes into effect, a school can directly pay a player whatever it wants without justifying that it’s a fair-market deal, but any payments beyond what’s budgeted through revenue sharing will need to be funneled to players through a collective.
“I wish collectives would go away for everybody,” a Big 12 coach said. “But if anybody has one, we’d better have one. I think if you’re going to try to compete, you have to have one.”

That’s especially true for basketball programs in the Power 4 leagues, which fear that non-football-playing schools, especially in the Big East, will have an advantage. SEC and Big Ten programs may have an easier time setting aside the $20.5 million for athletes because they bring in more in revenue, but what, for instance, is to stop Villanova or St. John’s from allocating $15 million for men’s basketball alone?
“You might see the Big East be back back,” the GM said.


Even several Atlantic 10 programs are expected to set aside $3-4 million in revenue sharing for their men’s basketball programs.
“This is a line item we’ve never had,” an A-10 coach said. “It becomes an institutional choice: What do you want to put towards your men’s basketball program?”

 

[MikelArteta]

Then Maryland needs to wake tf up and be willing to spend more. There's obviously more TV money coming in than what Nova's getting, but the alumni need to get more involved.

MSU benefits greatly from having a billionaire that played for Izzo, but I know our football NIL isn't up to par...at least not up to par with what it takes to compete for the conference.

Maryland also got lucky that deriq queen decided to stay home and reese stayed for all 4 years, next year is going to be a major fall off imo, Queen, miguel and reese are gone and rodney rice and gillespie the way they are playing won't be shocked if a sec team throws them a big bag.

just six days ago - Maryland's Kevin Willard says departing AD, lack of NIL money have stalled contract extension talks.

The highest they spent on a player this year was 500k and that was deriq queen now compare that to villanova who spent almost 2 mill on eric dixon

No football at Villanova so they can go all in straight on baskdtball and not have to worry about football

 

[Whips-n-Chains]

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. Last offseason, the consensus was a team needed to spend $3-5 million on its roster to be competitive at the high-major level. This year that number is expected to fall in the $5-8 million range, with some of the top spenders expected to reach $10 million.



“You need $7 million to be in the mix, when last year $4 million could get you a really good team,” a general manager of a high-major program said.

“Everybody’s coming up with all this money to front-load in addition to the back end of rev share. So if your rev share is $2.7 million from the school, people are trying to raise $5 million in addition to that, where you can pay to retain guys, plus go out and spend a whole bunch of money for transfers.”

While it is not a given that Wilken will approve the settlement on April 7 — administrators expect approval will come in the weeks that follow, and the direct revenue sharing model would take effect in July — just to be safe, coaches are using that date as a deadline to get deals signed to retain current players and, if possible, sign new ones because they know the terms. NIL deals (for both high school prospects and transfers) signed before the House settlement is finalized and paid before June 30 do not have to go through the clearinghouse.

“Right now we’re trying to get as much done before revenue sharing kicks in on April 7 as we can,” an SEC assistant said. “Because obviously what we have to operate with is going to be drastically reduced through the rev share — partially because we are in the SEC and football is king in this conference. For this year’s team specifically, we’re trying to get as much done before April 7. And then whatever we are allotted through the revenue share we will then use for the rest of the transfer portal class we have to bring in.”

Once the settlement goes into effect, a school can directly pay a player whatever it wants without justifying that it’s a fair-market deal, but any payments beyond what’s budgeted through revenue sharing will need to be funneled to players through a collective.
“I wish collectives would go away for everybody,” a Big 12 coach said. “But if anybody has one, we’d better have one. I think if you’re going to try to compete, you have to have one.”

That’s especially true for basketball programs in the Power 4 leagues, which fear that non-football-playing schools, especially in the Big East, will have an advantage. SEC and Big Ten programs may have an easier time setting aside the $20.5 million for athletes because they bring in more in revenue, but what, for instance, is to stop Villanova or St. John’s from allocating $15 million for men’s basketball alone?
“You might see the Big East be back back,” the GM said.


Even several Atlantic 10 programs are expected to set aside $3-4 million in revenue sharing for their men’s basketball programs.
“This is a line item we’ve never had,” an A-10 coach said. “It becomes an institutional choice: What do you want to put towards your men’s basketball program?”

Very interesting. Especially the part about the Big East being able to just dump $15M towards hoops b/c they don't need to care about football.

How much of Maryland's $4M budget went to Queen? I'm thinking at a minimum, he commands $1.5M. He was a major haul for y'all, so you're doing something right.

I still don't see anything close to official on Willard but ppl on twitter making it sound like it's a done deal.

 

[MikelArteta]

Very interesting. Especially the part about the Big East being able to just dump $15M towards hoops b/c they don't need to care about football.

How much of Maryland's $4M budget went to Queen? I'm thinking at a minimum, he commands $1.5M. He was a major haul for y'all, so you're doing something right.

I still don't see anything close to official on Willard but ppl on twitter making it sound like it's a done deal.

500k was the max a player got and im sure that was queen

Yeah the big east not having football helps dont have to split that nil budget

Mike Repole, a billionaire and co-founder of Vitamin Water, is a prominent and wealthy St. John's alum who has made significant contributions to the university, particularly its basketball program.

St. John's already got the top transfer so far

Sanon transferring to St. John's after year at ASU

Transfer wing Joson Sanon has committed to St. John's and coach Rick Pitino, he told ESPN. He averaged 11.9 points per game in his one season at Arizona State.

www.espn.com

prob gave him like a mill

They could easily spend 15 mill on a roster

 

[Trips]

Then Maryland needs to wake tf up and be willing to spend more. There's obviously more TV money coming in than what Nova's getting, but the alumni need to get more involved.

MSU benefits greatly from having a billionaire that played for Izzo, but I know our football NIL isn't up to par...at least not up to par with what it takes to compete for the conference.

I have to be honest and say I don't get into the weeds on how the school is securing/using NIL money. I feel there probably has been more money thrown at football for diminishing returns. But, at some point just have to accept the football program is what it is. The best guys even with all Locks' connections still tend to go to Penn State/OSU and others. The basketball program can more easily compete so you think it should get some more money. And if it takes Willard pissing in their face to get them to pump more money into basketball then do it. The non money sports that win like LAX and Soccer are going to always get good players cause of the programs. Maryland as a football program is at it's APEX a 10 win team, which means their normal 8, a stunning upset of one of the big 3 in the B1G, and then their bowl. But realistically they are an barely over 500 football program, just is it what it is. The basketball team can and should be competing for the Conference championship and deep tourney runs every year.

 

[Whips-n-Chains]

500k was the max a player got and im sure that was queen

Yeah the big east not having football helps dont have to split that nil budget

Mike Repole, a billionaire and co-founder of Vitamin Water, is a prominent and wealthy St. John's alum who has made significant contributions to the university, particularly its basketball program.

St. John's already got the top transfer so far

Sanon transferring to St. John's after year at ASU

Transfer wing Joson Sanon has committed to St. John's and coach Rick Pitino, he told ESPN. He averaged 11.9 points per game in his one season at Arizona State.

www.espn.com

prob gave him like a mill

They could easily spend 15 mill on a roster

I still find it hard to believe that no one offered Queen more than $500k...I get that he's local, but if someone doubles or triples that amount no one is turning that down.

 

[mr heyzel]

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Let’s go TERPS!!!!

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I swear I hope the rumor of Kevin Willard to Villanova ain’t true