Official 2015 NBA Summer League Thread

[Loose]

No. He's not. I don't know why you would tell me it's untrue, when you can just look up the numbers, and see that he posted verticals at a half foot LOWER than Beal.


What kinda amateur shyt is this?

I'mma have to sponsor your trip to @malcolmxxx_45 & @houston911 posting camp.



Well, he's 22. He shoots 40% from 3 and 80% from the line. He's got good vision, and in the playoffs he averaged 23/5/6

He's a very good young shooting guard, that can score in a bunch of ways, finishes at an above average clip around the hoop, and you can run ball through him OR have him move off the ball to create shots and open looks.


I'm confused as to why people think he's NOT good. His problem isn't talent, it's that he's had injurty problems (and might be injury prone) and plays in a terrible offensive scheme. But anybody watching him can see that he's very good.

why are you quoting his free throw percentage when he gets to the line at a garbage career 19%. Bradley Beal is not good the thought of Bradley beal is good. He's a average inefficient shooting guard. His best quality is shooting the 3 at a 40% clip. That Makes him a role player not a star or even a promising player. His close range percentages are awful for a shooting guard. nikkas shoots 40% of his shots from 3 and he still has a low 50 ts%. How you a shooting guard and have a 19% ftr

 

[labelplant]

I hope Russ Smith gets traded to the Sixers or some shytty team.
He is as quick as anyone and he has really worked on his PG skills.
He and Stanley Johnson were my 2 favorite players in the Orlando league.
Johnson will be small forward/6th man on the Pistons, as they continue to develop.
Smith tho won't see enough action behind Conley.
I truly believe he can average 16/7 if he is the starter somewhere. Even though he is undersized he can defend his position because of how quick he is. He can get a wide open midrange shot or get in the paint every time. Reminds me of a young TP.
Johnson, id say, can be 15-19 scorer, plus his defensive potential is well known

 

[Full Measures]

No. He's not. I don't know why you would tell me it's untrue, when you can just look up the numbers, and see that he posted verticals at a half foot LOWER than Beal.


What kinda amateur shyt is this?

I'mma have to sponsor your trip to @malcolmxxx_45 & @houston911 posting camp.



Well, he's 22. He shoots 40% from 3 and 80% from the line. He's got good vision, and in the playoffs he averaged 23/5/6

He's a very good young shooting guard, that can score in a bunch of ways, finishes at an above average clip around the hoop, and you can run ball through him OR have him move off the ball to create shots and open looks.


I'm confused as to why people think he's NOT good. His problem isn't talent, it's that he's had injurty problems (and might be injury prone) and plays in a terrible offensive scheme. But anybody watching him can see that he's very good.

Yes. He is. I don't know why you would tell me he isn't when you could just look up the numbers. I don't give a fukk about verticals. Doug McDermott posted a higher vertical than Russell Westbrook so I guess that makes him more athletic than Westbrook based on those numbers right?

Devin Booker posted the best lane agility times at the Combine and finished at least in the top 5 in other important athletic tests. He posted a better lane agility time than other players who are considered more athletic than him like Rondae Hollis-Jefferson

I don't know why you would say he isn't when you could just look it up

 

[Wacky D]

pierre jackson couldve been the sixers starter last year if he didnt get hurt in summer league/preseason.

 

[keepemup]

pierre jackson couldve been the sixers starter last year if he didnt get hurt in summer league/preseason.

I honestly don't see it with him. I watched him close and nothing stood out.

 

[I.V.]

why are you quoting his free throw percentage when he gets to the line at a garbage career 19%

Because, as I explained.... he plays in a garbage offensive system, that doesn't work to his strengths. He finishes at nearly a 70% clip around the basket, which is a GOOOOD deal higher than other slashing guards.

He's increasing the % of shots he takes from 3 AND he just increased the amount of shots he takes around the basket bay 25% this year, which means an increase in free throw rate is likely on the way.

You're penalizing a guy for being efficient... it's not like we're talking about a guy who only played 8 minutes a game, he shot the ball nearly 900 times last year, and missed a chunk of the season due to injuries.


He's a good ball handler, finishes well, passes well, and shoots well. You should watch him more often, you'd be able to talk about more than his Free Throw rate... we all have access to Basketball Reference, bruh. :smugsilver:

I don't give a fukk about verticals. Doug McDermott posted a higher vertical than Russell Westbrook so I guess that makes him more athletic than Westbrook based on those numbers right?

What's funny is -- you're quoting Doug McDermott's max vert... but his REGULAR two-foot vert was pedestrian as fukk, which is a much better determinant -- AND much more functional.

Devin Booker posted the best lane agility times at the Combine and finished at least in the top 5 in other important athletic tests.

You don't want to talk about verticals... but you want to tell me about lane agility!!!

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Never mind the fact that you can just WATCH them and see that Beal is a better athlete, more power off the bounce, better change of directions, faster.

You kids are too much... fukking lane agility.... I love this site.

 

[Loose]

Because, as I explained.... he plays in a garbage offensive system, that doesn't work to his strengths. He finishes at nearly a 70% clip around the basket, which is a GOOOOD deal higher than other slashing guards.

He's increasing the % of shots he takes from 3 AND he just increased the amount of shots he takes around the basket bay 25% this year, which means an increase in free throw rate is likely on the way.

You're penalizing a guy for being efficient... it's not like we're talking about a guy who only played 8 minutes a game, he shot the ball nearly 900 times last year, and missed a chunk of the season due to injuries.


He's a good ball handler, finishes well, passes well, and shoots well. You should watch him more often, you'd be able to talk about more than his Free Throw rate... we all have access to Basketball Reference, bruh. :smugsilver:




What's funny is -- you're quoting Doug McDermott's max vert... but his REGULAR two-foot vert was pedestrian as fukk, which is a much better determinant -- AND much more functional.



You don't want to talk about verticals... but you want to tell me about lane agility!!!

we aren't going to agree on him. beal sucks at drawing fouls period. has nothing to do with the offensive system. drawing fouls is a actual skill, lots of guards get to the rim and don't draw fouls. beals an average player. top 15 sg. nothing wrong with that .

 

[I.V.]

top 15 sg. nothing wrong with that .

There are 15 NBA shooting guards better than Bradley Beal?


Receipts please.

 

[Loose]

There are 15 NBA shooting guards better than Bradley Beal?


Receipts please.

no order


kobe
wade
kris middleton
wes matthews
harden
danny green
klay
wiggins
derozon
butler

I guess he'll be someone down here near monta. personally I also think oladipo is better then him. but i'll

 

[Lakerman0834]

Dloading gonna go off tonight

 

[I.V.]

no order


kobe Blown Out Achilles and Washed :kobechair:
wade Washed

kris middleton Small Forward

wes matthews Blown Out Achilles

harden

danny green 3&D role player Can't dribble or create... and he's 7 years older, but if that's your style, I wouldn't hate

klay

wiggins Small Forward

derozon

butler

We're listing near-retirees and small forwards to round out your list?

Beal is the youngest shooting guard on that list. And I really think if Danny Green is the style of Shooting Guard you like... then you can make a legit argument for him.

But dog, derozan

 

[Loose]

We're listing near-retirees and small forwards to round out your list?

Beal is the youngest shooting guard on that list. And I really think if Danny Green is the style of Shooting Guard you like... then you can make a legit argument for him.

But dog, derozan

Middleton is a shooting guard he's a position -less player. If you want to argue he's a small forward you can though . Even a wade is better then beal. And yes green is better because he actually can defend at a high level unlike beal.

 

[I.V.]

Middleton is a shooting guard he's a position -less player. If you want to argue he's a small forward you can though . Even a wade is better then beal. And yes green is better because he actually can defend at a high level unlike beal.

Wade is done. Beal is a solid defender, and can create off the bounce and pass... But I think this is clearly a place where we just disagree on Beal, fundamentally. Which is cool.

It happens sometimes.

 

[Ritzy Sharon]

thecoli is going to explode if the Lakers/Nuggets meet in the quarterfinals.

hopefully Gawdson can lead the Lakers there.

 

[Lakerman0834]

Randle looking like last yr randle