Offical Thread : Klitschko vs Joshua April 29 : Somebody bout to get dey ass Koed in fronna 90,000.

[Newzz]

I been saying it since haye came back, a fit and healthy Haye would wash AJ

Saying that with Joshua in your avi?



And, I wouldn't mind seeing The Hayemaker vs Joshua either bc that would have an interesting buildup

 

[GREENandYELLOW]

at the people in here who said Wilder needs to earn his shot vs. Joshua. Wilder has been a champ longer and before the Klitschko fight had a better resume.

As I said before this fight, no matter the outcome this fight had, I believe the HW division is open and everyone needs to earn their place. Wlad isn't king anymore and he needs to win fights. Fury has been off too long, he may retain the lineal title, but he has to re-prove himself. Joshua is the up and coming champ, but outside of Wlad needs more to be crowned. Wilder has had a belt a while, has a decent resume, but needs more big names to claim supremacy. Ortiz still hasn't gotten a signature fight, but has looked the part of a top tiered fighter. Throw in some other talented contenders (Parker, etc).

HW is talented, but no clear #1. These guys need to sort it out themselves. Joshua-Klitschko was a great start. Wilder-Joshua needs to happen for the sport, but also to make sense of HW. I don't want to hear that Wilder needs to wait his turn for Joshua. Outside of a Klitschko-Joshua rematch, take the list above and it is a next man up fight anybody on the list if you want to be considered the sole champ at HW.

Edit: Joshua-Klitschko was a great fight. A rematch would certainly be welcomed. I would favor Joshua again, but I would certainly expect a night of anything could happen like Saturday.

 

[reservoirdogs]

at the people in here who said Wilder needs to earn his shot vs. Joshua. Wilder has been a champ longer and before the Klitschko fight had a better resume.

As I said before this fight, no matter the outcome this fight had, I believe the HW division is open and everyone needs to earn their place. Wlad isn't king anymore and he needs to win fights. Fury has been off too long, he may retain the lineal title, but he has to re-prove himself. Joshua is the up and coming champ, but outside of Wlad needs more to be crowned. Wilder has had a belt a while, has a decent resume, but needs more big names to claim supremacy. Ortiz still hasn't gotten a signature fight, but has looked the part of a top tiered fighter. Throw in some other talented contenders (Parker, etc).

HW is talented, but no clear #1. These guys need to sort it out themselves. Joshua-Klitschko was a great start. Wilder-Joshua needs to happen for the sport, but also to make sense of HW. I don't want to hear that Wilder needs to wait his turn for Joshua. Outside of a Klitschko-Joshua rematch, take the list above and it is a next man up fight anybody on the list if you want to be considered the sole champ at HW.

Joshua is the man at heavyweight no question.
Only person who could question it just started to drop his pounds from 350+ pounds, let's see how his comeback shapes up but until then Joahua is clearly the #1 in the division based on resume. No other fighter in the division (outside Fury who I already addressed) has a win remotely as good as knocking Wlad out.

I don't say Wilder has to "earn" his shot that would be talking down on Wilderbut Joshua became the man in the division and it stays like that until it's proven otherwise or Fury comibg back in shape to argue it.

 

[GREENandYELLOW]

Joshua is the man at heavyweight no question.
Only person who could question it just started to drop his pounds from 350+ pounds, let's see how his comeback shapes up but until then Joahua is clearly the #1 in the division based on resume. No other fighter in the division (outside Fury who I already addressed) has a win remotely as good as knocking Wlad out.

I don't say Wilder has to "earn" his shot that would be talking down on Wilderbut Joshua became the man in the division and it stays like that until it's proven otherwise or Fury comibg back in shape to argue it.

I disagree. I don't think there is a man yet. I think they are all talented, but seriously flawed in being the solo king. I had said it before Joshua-Klitschko, I didn't think a win by either made them the top of the division. Now financially Joshua may have just made himself the #1 fighter in the division and will hold the cards because others fighters need his marquee...but when it comes to resumes, matchups, and anything attempting to determine who is the king at HW I think it is a mess (good mess because it means good fights) and is nothing other than debate until the fighters themselves sort it out. That includes Fury. Under normal circumstances he would deserve some slack...but when you gain 100 lbs, mentally break down, recover from addiction, and have an extended time off, you can't be king. He deserves to get breaks to get back quickly into top fights, but his last 2 yeas are such a stark contrast to what it takes to be an elite athlete at the most damaging weight class, he needs to show and prove just like everyone else.

 

[reservoirdogs]

I disagree. I don't think there is a man yet. I think they are all talented, but seriously flawed in being the solo king. I had said it before Joshua-Klitschko, I didn't think a win by either made them the top of the division. Now financially Joshua may have just made himself the #1 fighter in the division and will hold the cards because others fighters need his marquee...but when it comes to resumes, matchups, and anything attempting to determine who is the king at HW I think it is a mess (good mess because it means good fights) and is nothing other than debate until the fighters themselves sort it out. That includes Fury. Under normal circumstances he would deserve some slack...but when you gain 100 lbs, mentally break down, recover from addiction, and have an extended time off, you can't be king. He deserves to get breaks to get back quickly into top fights, but his last 2 yeas are such a stark contrast to what it takes to be an elite athlete at the most damaging weight class, he needs to show and prove just like everyone else.

It's not. If you look at resume Joshua is a clear cut above anyone right now except Fury but we both already adressed him.

 

[Squirrel from Meteor Man]

Great fight and what a win for Joshua. Shook off the KD, got his second wind, landed that uppercut from hell and put down Klitchold. Wlad showed a lot of heart though, went out on his sword.

Huge win for Showtime and Uncle Al

 

[Master Teacher]

at the people in here who said Wilder needs to earn his shot vs. Joshua. Wilder has been a champ longer and before the Klitschko fight had a better resume.

As I said before this fight, no matter the outcome this fight had, I believe the HW division is open and everyone needs to earn their place. Wlad isn't king anymore and he needs to win fights. Fury has been off too long, he may retain the lineal title, but he has to re-prove himself. Joshua is the up and coming champ, but outside of Wlad needs more to be crowned. Wilder has had a belt a while, has a decent resume, but needs more big names to claim supremacy. Ortiz still hasn't gotten a signature fight, but has looked the part of a top tiered fighter. Throw in some other talented contenders (Parker, etc).

HW is talented, but no clear #1. These guys need to sort it out themselves. Joshua-Klitschko was a great start. Wilder-Joshua needs to happen for the sport, but also to make sense of HW. I don't want to hear that Wilder needs to wait his turn for Joshua. Outside of a Klitschko-Joshua rematch, take the list above and it is a next man up fight anybody on the list if you want to be considered the sole champ at HW.

Edit: Joshua-Klitschko was a great fight. A rematch would certainly be welcomed. I would favor Joshua again, but I would certainly expect a night of anything could happen like Saturday.

I think Wilder is hated because he too confident and dark skin

shyt is unfathomable the excuses people come up with

AJ was not impressive in that fight, it was an entertaining fight because it was a slug fest
he fight Wilder like that he will get KO'd, he cannot KO Wilder, he couldn't knock Wlad out cold who has a china chin lmao, wlad didn't even want to exchange with Haye but had no problem doing it with Joshua

 

[Master Teacher]

Joshua is the man at heavyweight no question.
Only person who could question it just started to drop his pounds from 350+ pounds, let's see how his comeback shapes up but until then Joahua is clearly the #1 in the division based on resume. No other fighter in the division (outside Fury who I already addressed) has a win remotely as good as knocking Wlad out.

I don't say Wilder has to "earn" his shot that would be talking down on Wilderbut Joshua became the man in the division and it stays like that until it's proven otherwise or Fury comibg back in shape to argue it.

He's not the man, people act like Wlad was the champ, he wasn't

Fury dethroned in a one of the worst performances in boxing history, so no he is not the man

he's no different than Danny Garcia winning Floyd's WBC belt

He wants to be the man he has to beat Wilder who is the biggest name and a title holder for him to fight, period

 

[patscorpio]

OLUWAFEMI!!!!

 

[Axum Ezana]

I been saying it since haye came back, a fit and healthy Haye would wash AJ

naww breh breh. he looks flabby n sick forever. just like berto.

 

[seemorecizzy]

sorry for my late pass but just watched this

Aj collapsed to the ground after that knockdown, i thought he was out. it barely missed his chin. If it landed there, he'd still be out right now

I think this fight plays out similar even if Klits was in his prime

he would have to open up against Aj, that jab jab hold shyt wouldnt work with him

no need for the rematch, klitschko gave all he had left into that fight

Would be a much easier fight for AJ if they had a rematch

ref stopped it too early, not saying klits woulda came back, but its possible that he made it out the round

 

[seemorecizzy]

His arms flail like he was about to grow wings and fly outta there for real

lmao

 

[seemorecizzy]

Bruh, i just watched that 11th round

No WAY was Joshua swinging nearly as wild as Wilder does.

Wilder ass be almost jumping off the ring floor throwing punches and shyt. Joshua missed a few but in no way did it look like this shyt

 

[FreedMind]

It's not. If you look at resume Joshua is a clear cut above anyone right now except Fury but we both already adressed him.

Clear cut? He just beat a beltless Klitschko coming off a 2 year layoff and loss.

Its a fine win but this really feels like a fight along the lines of Canelo-Mosley... give the young fighter some props, but is it fair to give him too much credit for beating a former champ that was clearly on the decline?

I more or less find myself agreeing with @GREENandYELLOW on this.

 

[King P]

Clear cut? He just beat a beltless Klitschko coming off a 2 year layoff and loss.

Its a fine win but this really feels like a fight along the lines of Canelo-Mosley... give the young fighter some props, but is it fair to give him too much credit for beating a former champ that was clearly on the decline?

I more or less find myself agreeing with @GREENandYELLOW on this.

Current Wlad is way more game than the Mosley that fought Canelo. Big difference