Obama's security dog named "Khan," Muslims outraged, issue threats, demand apology

[The Real]

The name Khan is not a Muslim name. It's not even Arabic. It's just a name that is popular among some Muslims because of their geographical location, not because of their religion. All it testifies to is that the (pagan) Mongols ran up on them at one point or another and conquered them, or that they themselves are descended from Mongols. You won't find Southeast Asian or North African Muslims named Khan. Plus, for the same reason, there are a lot of non-Muslims named Khan. And even among Muslims, it's used more as an ethnic designator than as a pan-Muslim name.

This kind of outrage is just needless sensitivity.

 

[Pool_Shark]

Why do you guys associate anything any muslim has said with ALL muslims are like this. Don't care one way or the other it's just there's so many muslims on Earth that of course a bunch of idiots slipped in.

 

[Techniec]

Khan isn't even a Muslim name, it's a name with origins in peoples of central Asia. Muslims always try to claim any name, place, or land associated with people they conquered centuries ago as Islamic.

thats irrelevant, Khan in the south Asian context is associated with Muslims. Either this was a deliberate act, which is stupid, or an act of ignorance, which is stupid

 

[Techniec]

The name Khan is not a Muslim name. It's not even Arabic. It's just a name that is popular among some Muslims because of their geographical location, not because of their religion. All it testifies to is that the (pagan) Mongols ran up on them at one point or another and conquered them, or that they themselves are descended from Mongols. You won't find Southeast Asian or North African Muslims named Khan. Plus, for the same reason, there are a lot of non-Muslims named Khan. And even among Muslims, it's used more as an ethnic designator than as a pan-Muslim name.

This kind of outrage is just needless sensitivity.

again i disagree. Of coure Khan is a Mongol term, but in West, Central and South Asia it took root and today it is strictly associated with Muslims...especially in the South Asia context

 

[88m3]

thats irrelevant, Khan in the south Asian context is associated with Muslims. Either this was a deliberate act, which is stupid, or an act of ignorance, which is stupid

Why don't you go cut their heads off in retribution.


Spare me your fake outrage

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

thats irrelevant, Khan in the south Asian context is associated with Muslims. Either this was a deliberate act, which is stupid, or an act of ignorance, which is stupid

So any region of the world that Islam took over and there was a lasting predominant Muslim community established, we are to consider all those names Muslim names and the lands Muslim lands, and to name a dog with a central Asian surname is an affront to Islam, even though the name existed centuries before Islam was invented?

 

[The Real]

again i disagree. Of coure Khan is a Mongol term, but in West, Central and South Asia it took root and today it is strictly associated with Muslims...especially in the South Asia context

I wouldn't deny that, but again, why the needless sensitivity for something that only has a contingent association with Islam and was clearly not meant to offend anyone, and furthermore, doesn't directly blaspheme? It's not like someone named the dog Muhammad or Allah or something where I could see the direct offense perceived.

 

[Techniec]

I wouldn't deny that, but again, why the needless sensitivity for something that only has a contingent association with Islam and was clearly not meant to offend anyone, and furthermore, doesn't directly blaspheme? It's not like someone named the dog Muhammad or Allah or something where I could see the direct offense perceived.

take your pick:

1. muslims been getting azz fukked, and are traumatized over any slight

2. muslims have nothing better to do

3. local leaders sustain their positions of authority by whipping up crowds over this

So any region of the world that Islam took over and there was a lasting predominant Muslim community established, we are to consider all those names Muslim names and the lands Muslim lands, and to name a dog with a central Asian surname is an affront to Islam, even though the name existed centuries before Islam was invented?

no

im saying Khan in the south Asian context is associated with Muslims. Im not trying to have a greater conversation here. Im sticking to the subject.

Its actually more associated with Pashtuns then anything. South Asians call me Khan Saheb, as a term of endearment

Why don't you go cut their heads off in retribution.


Spare me your fake outrage

shut up you faccot, before i put bells on your feet

 

[The Real]

take your pick:

1. muslims been getting azz fukked, and are traumatized over any slight

2. muslims have nothing better to do

3. local leaders sustain their positions of authority by whipping up crowds over this

So 2 and 3 seem to be pretty much needless, which was pretty much my initial point that this is being needlessly hyped. The first point I think has some merit, but maybe less so in India, especially in a state with prominent Muslims politicians and representation for Muslims. It's not Gujarat where Hindu fundamentalist maniacs have turned the Muslim population into an open wound. In any case, I wouldn't see it that offense backed by the general context of Muslim trauma as outweighing the clearly innocuous case here.

 

[Techniec]

So 2 and 3 seem to be pretty much needless, which was pretty much my initial point that this is being needlessly hyped. The first point I think has some merit, but maybe less so in India, especially in a state with prominent Muslims politicians and representation for Muslims. It's not Gujarat where Hindu fundamentalist maniacs have turned the Muslim population into an open wound. In any case, I wouldn't see it that offense backed by the general context of Muslim trauma as outweighing the clearly innocuous case here.

well the hype is needless no doubt but i can understand why a slight was recognized. how one reacts to slights like this depends on the person

 

[Ashtrey]

i know a lot of south asians non muslims with the last name khan..

 

[zerozero]

i know a lot of south asians non muslims with the last name khan..

word? what religion are they?

 

[The Real]

word? what religion are they?

I've definitely heard of Sikhs with Khan in their name, though maybe not as a last name, and Hindus from the Northwest (Rajasthan,) where I was when I was in India. It seemed the same way with certain other Persian and Arabic names like Bahadur and Shah, which I had previously assumed were exclusively Muslim.

 

[Techniec]

i know a lot of south asians non muslims with the last name khan..

ive never met a single one...old school Hindu rulers maybe

 

[Hiphoplives4eva]

Great job posting an article from years ago breh. Good to see you're on the ball.

I was about to say. Im like "when the hell was Obama last in Pakistan"?



OP should be negged for this thread.