Obamacare is ruining this country and will be a massive failure. Look what it did to Kentucky

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sorry for that outburst.... i work with a slew of rabid cacs that bitterly hate obama's guts...
the whole "sue obama" thing is hilarious.

The GOP is trying to sue him for delaying the implementation of parts of Obama care...and they didn't even like Obamacare :mjlol: :dwillhuh:
 

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the whole "sue obama" thing is hilarious.

The GOP is trying to sue him for delaying the implementation of parts of Obama care...and they didn't even like Obamacare :mjlol: :dwillhuh:
it's gets funnier than that... boehner's plan if the suit is successful and the employer mandate is forced to be implemented immediately is to pass legislation to delay the mandate.... so he's going to sue obama to force the implementation then pass legislation to delay the implementation.... now that's some gop for your ass....
 

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People have to get insured to avoid being fined.
I don't see how them getting insured is surprising or a "success".
They are simply doing what govt has forced them to do.
Could one of you explain it to to me.
so are you trying to say that these people chose not to have healthcare? they couldn't afford it and obamacare is a cheaper alternative. its 95$ a year in fees if you don't sign up for obamacare, so it's still cheaper to not have obamacare than to pay for it and avoid the fine. it also saves us money from when these people fall deathly ill (because they don't have healthcare and couldn't go see a doctor at the first onset of symptoms) and go to an emergency room where its way more expensive.
 

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so are you trying to say that these people chose not to have healthcare? they couldn't afford it and obamacare is a cheaper alternative. its 95$ a year in fees if you don't sign up for obamacare, so it's still cheaper to not have obamacare than to pay for it and avoid the fine. it also saves us money from when these people fall deathly ill (because they don't have healthcare and couldn't go see a doctor at the first onset of symptoms) and go to an emergency room where its way more expensive.
I'm not trying to say anything, I'm asking how is people doing anything they are mandated/forced to do by the govt. surprising or something to gloat about?
 

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I'm not trying to say anything, I'm asking how is people doing anything they are mandated/forced to do by the govt. surprising or something to gloat about?
More insured people = lower overall healthcare costs for everybody

More insured people = healthier people

Etc.

For starters.
 
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People have to get insured to avoid being fined.
I don't see how them getting insured is surprising or a "success".
They are simply doing what govt has forced them to do.
Could one of you explain it to to me.

Honestly read this fukking book to see why coercion is necessary to procure public goods and stop wasting our time with this freshman philosophy level analysis of freedom

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Logic_of_Collective_Action
 

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Honestly read this fukking book to see why coercion is necessary to procure public goods and stop wasting our time with this freshman philosophy level analysis of freedom

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Logic_of_Collective_Action
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... I just asked a question. No need to get defensive...
If I put a gun to your head and forced you to do something, i wouldn't be shocked or gloating about you doing it.

Now if the OP had showed a reduction in cost to tax payer as @GinaThatAintNoDamnPuppy! mentioned, that would be different, but it simply shows people doing what they have been forced to do, and for some reason this is seen as something worth gloating about...

I was wondering why... obviously im missing something.


edit: ill check the book out.
 
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