Obama and Harris are children of immigrants. Would voters elect a D.O.A.S like me: LA times

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You have to be vetted and chosen BEFORE you are allowed to get in front of voters and run for a high office.
In the vetting process it was more important that Barack Obama has a White mother and thinks/talks/acts like a half-immigrant/half-White person.
Having Michelle as his wife, a real Black Woman, is the main reason Black people accepted him.
Kamala Harris is multiracial with a White husband and was never accepted by Black people. And given her prosecutor history, the vetting process was easy.
 

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You have to be vetted and chosen BEFORE you are allowed to get in front of voters and run for a high office.
In the vetting process it was more important that Barack Obama has a White mother and thinks/talks/acts like a half-immigrant/half-White person.
Having Michelle as his wife, a real Black Woman, is the main reason Black people accepted him.
Kamala Harris is multiracial with a White husband and was never accepted by Black people. And given her prosecutor history, the vetting process was easy.
That's the TLR take, especially the last 2 sentences.
The Coli echo chamber may make people think that they speak for an entire group of Black people, but the FACTS say different.
Organizations started by, run by, and majority made up of AAs publicly supported Harris. Millions of AA individuals publicly supported Harris as a candidate, and then as part of the Dem. Ticket.
 
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Their identity is whatever. It's who they opposed is what matters the most. Black people will support black people regardless of actual promise. But question begs, Would they elect someone who isn't a child of immigrants? Sure, if the person challenging them is the same white man they been tired of seeing.

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1. Obama and Kamala hardly mentioned their Kenyan and Jamaican heritages (especially Kamala).
2. African Americans descended from chattel slavery in the US are more represented in powerful political institutions. Sample size is quite small.
3. I think Obama and Kamala's mixed raceness plays a much bigger role than their fathers' birthplaces. Obama was particularly hated and maligned as a Kenyan Muslim by Americans.
4. Both participated and were elevated by predominately African American politicos, donors, and infrastructures. (Chicago Dems and Boule for Obama, Howard Univ and AKA for Kamala, Willie Brown's influence, etc.)
5. African American DOS put Obama and Kamala into the positions they are today.
6. The Coli really needs to have a more nuanced discussion on the Black diaspora than the ADOS vs. everyone else dichotomy that currently exists.
 

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That's the TLR take, especially the last 2 sentences.
The Coli echo chamber may make people think that they speak for an entire group of Black people, but the FACTS say different.
Organizations started by, run by, and majority made up of AAs publicly supported Harris. Millions of AA individuals publicly supported Harris as a candidate, and then as part of the Dem. Ticket.

Let's not do this. The NAACP'S of the world don't represent us, look no further then there Twitter pages which Garner little to no likes/retweets.

Also, when Kamala ran as president, she failed miserably. Kamala was a heavily funded frontrunner, yet had no traction w/ ADOS, and she didn't even make it to the primary. The reason why Biden/Harris got a ton of support, was because they weren't Trump, we(not me personally, but my group) wanted Trump out at all costs.
 

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If Obama was a full black immigrant he’s getting less votes also. Both Harris and Obama are multiracial which to me is more important than them being immigrants in terms of politics.

Many years ago and old head told me why this is

Explained it pretty simple

At the time Dwayne Johnson the rock and Bruno Mars were the biggest in movies and music

He said why is that?

White People love a racially ambiguous black/mixed person and black people still see them as black

It’s a win/win big advantage to be black-ish

To be black is always bad, after all MJ had to bleach his skin. And they still came for him
 

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Many years ago and old head told me why this is

Explained it pretty simple

At the time Dwayne Johnson the rock and Bruno Mars were the biggest in movies and music

He said why is that?

White People love a racially ambiguous black/mixed person and black people still see them as black

It’s a win/win big advantage to be black-ish

To be black is always bad, after all MJ had to bleach his skin. And they still came for him

Yep if Meghan Markle was a full black ADOS or African she wouldn’t have made it near Buckingham Palace lol.
 

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There wont be a vice president or president that is birth from a black woman, foreign or domestic.
 

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Let's not do this. The NAACP'S of the world don't represent us, look no further then there Twitter pages which Garner little to no likes/retweets.
Why are you talking about NAACP? Pretty sure he's referring to the Divine Nine, who were huge Kamala boosters, as well as Black lawyer, law student, student, and political groups. Harris was the #1 fundraiser in minority communities.


Also, when Kamala ran as president, she failed miserably. Kamala was a heavily funded frontrunner, yet had no traction w/ ADOS, and she didn't even make it to the primary.
She wasn't a "heavily funded frontrunner", she didn't raise even close as much money as Biden, Bernie, Buttigieg, and Warren did and couldn't touch the self-funding of Bloomberg and Steyer. She literally had to drop out of the race due to lack of funds. She had a spurt of good funding for a little stretch based on her strengths in non-white communities but that isn't enough to last you through.




There wont be a vice president or president that is birth from a black woman, foreign or domestic.
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The fact that people think being Barack Hussein Obama in 2006 was a huge advantage in running for president is wild to me.

Obama got the nom because he was Obama. If Deval Patrick had Obama's charisma and the right timing (or if Obama had Deval's background), he could have won the nomination as well.



You have to be vetted and chosen BEFORE you are allowed to get in front of voters and run for a high office.
In the vetting process it was more important that Barack Obama has a White mother and thinks/talks/acts like a half-immigrant/half-White person.
Having Michelle as his wife, a real Black Woman, is the main reason Black people accepted him.
Kamala Harris is multiracial with a White husband and was never accepted by Black people. And given her prosecutor history, the vetting process was easy.
What about Deval Patrick? Cory Booker?



Both Cory Booker and Deval Patrick ran for president but ADOS put all their votes and support in Joe Biden :francis:
South Carolina black folk basically giving the presidency to Biden is probably the most underrated news story of 2020. If he lost South Carolina he basically would have had to drop out of the race. Instead he went from "distant fourth" to "clear frontrunner" in a single moment.



Yep if Meghan Markle was a full black ADOS or African she wouldn’t have made it near Buckingham Palace lol.
Norwegian princess reveals she and her black boyfriend got death threats

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The fact that people think being Barack Hussein Obama in 2006 was a huge advantage in running for president is wild to me.

Obama got the nom because he was Obama. If Deval Patrick had Obama's charisma and the right timing (or if Obama had Deval's background), he could have won the nomination as well.




What about Deval Patrick? Cory Booker?




South Carolina black folk basically giving the presidency to Biden is probably the most underrated news story of 2020. If he lost South Carolina he basically would have had to drop out of the race. Instead he went from "distant fourth" to "clear frontrunner" in a single moment.




Norwegian princess reveals she and her black boyfriend got death threats

5eda1be2988ee360dd113734

Yh I know about this, but I think the British monarchy/media is even worse.
 

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That's the TLR take, especially the last 2 sentences.
The Coli echo chamber may make people think that they speak for an entire group of Black people, but the FACTS say different.
Organizations started by, run by, and majority made up of AAs publicly supported Harris. Millions of AA individuals publicly supported Harris as a candidate, and then as part of the Dem. Ticket.

Blacks vote Dem regardless of who's on the ticket or their policies. That's why they can run anyone and get away with it from the local to the national.
 

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Blacks vote Dem regardless of who's on the ticket or their policies. That's why they can run anyone and get away with it from the local to the national.
Black voter turnout rose sharply when Obama was the nominee/incumbent, and dipped when Hillary ran.

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When the official numbers for 2020 turnout are released, I think they will show a rise from 2016. Kamala being on the ticket has a lot to do with that. It's documented that Dem. victory in key metro areas (with high Black populations) is what shifted the election.


"Run anyone?"Try again.
 
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