greenygreen
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read the article, can u explain how the charter school system is making the kids performance worse?
NYTimes: Michigan Gambled on Charter Schools, it lost (long read)
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read the article, can u explain how the charter school system is making the kids performance worse?
since they are completely unregulated im gonna go out on a limb and say that clearly contributes to it.
Michigan went from a middle of the road state as far as education goes
to now a bottom tier state, this occured while the explosion of you get a charter and you get a charter!
everybody gets a charter!
as a matter of fact the decline is evident among all races and incomes
do you disagree?
i could go find the quotes but shouldnt have to if you read the article.
i dont have a problem with charters per se, i do have a problem with letting any old moe open a "school"
and get thousands of dollars a year per student and not be responsible for any standards other than their own
greenygreen
Banned
since they are completely unregulated im gonna go out on a limb and say that clearly contributes to it.
Michigan went from a middle of the road state as far as education goes
to now a bottom tier state, this occured while the explosion of you get a charter and you get a charter!
everybody gets a charter!
as a matter of fact the decline is evident among all races and incomes
do you disagree?
i could go find the quotes but shouldnt have to if you read the article.
i dont have a problem with charters per se, i do have a problem with letting any old moe open a "school"
and get thousands of dollars a year per student and not be responsible for any standards other than their own
ok so there's no connection between the students performance and the charter school system even tho thats the whole articles premise
glad we got that cleared up
michigan sucks at everything cant even get citizens clean water
this and just about everything the new york times writes is garbage marxist propaganda
greenygreen
Banned
since they are completely unregulated im gonna go out on a limb and say that clearly contributes to it.
Michigan went from a middle of the road state as far as education goes
to now a bottom tier state, this occured while the explosion of you get a charter and you get a charter!
everybody gets a charter!
as a matter of fact the decline is evident among all races and incomes
do you disagree?
i could go find the quotes but shouldnt have to if you read the article.
i dont have a problem with charters per se, i do have a problem with letting any old moe open a "school"
and get thousands of dollars a year per student and not be responsible for any standards other than their own
ok so there's no connection between the students performance and the charter school system even tho thats the whole articles premise
glad we got that cleared upmichigan sucks at everything cant even get citizens clean water
this and just about everything the new york times writes is garbage marxist propaganda
greenygreen
Banned
since they are completely unregulated im gonna go out on a limb and say that clearly contributes to it.
Michigan went from a middle of the road state as far as education goes
to now a bottom tier state, this occured while the explosion of you get a charter and you get a charter!
everybody gets a charter!
as a matter of fact the decline is evident among all races and incomes
do you disagree?
i could go find the quotes but shouldnt have to if you read the article.
i dont have a problem with charters per se, i do have a problem with letting any old moe open a "school"
and get thousands of dollars a year per student and not be responsible for any standards other than their own
ok so there's no connection between the students performance and the charter school system even tho thats the whole articles premise
glad we got that cleared upmichigan sucks at everything cant even get citizens clean water
this and just about everything the new york times writes is garbage marxist propaganda
greenygreen
Banned
since they are completely unregulated im gonna go out on a limb and say that clearly contributes to it.
Michigan went from a middle of the road state as far as education goes
to now a bottom tier state, this occured while the explosion of you get a charter and you get a charter!
everybody gets a charter!
as a matter of fact the decline is evident among all races and incomes
do you disagree?
i could go find the quotes but shouldnt have to if you read the article.
i dont have a problem with charters per se, i do have a problem with letting any old moe open a "school"
and get thousands of dollars a year per student and not be responsible for any standards other than their own
ok so there's no connection between the students performance and the charter school system even tho thats the whole articles premise
glad we got that cleared upmichigan sucks at everything cant even get citizens clean water
this and just about everything the new york times writes is garbage marxist propaganda
ok so there's no connection between the students performance and the charter school system even tho thats the whole articles premise
michigan sucks at everything cant even get citizens clean water
this and just about everything the new york times writes is garbage marxist propaganda
so michigan sucks
and the NYT is propoganda
and charter schools and their lack of outperforming shytty public schools already in Michigan
and Michigan has unregulated charter schools more so than any other state
so
dont talk bad about charter schools?
i really have no idea what youre trying to get at here
especially since it links back to you quoting me simply saying others should read the article
mastermind
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GnauzBookOfRhymes
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All stats in the world of education, whether they come from charter or public school system(s) are not to be trusted.
That in fact is the problem. Everything is done in order to hit various metrics. The actual education that the student does or doesn't receive is almost secondary.
Our inner city public school system (I can't speak for rural areas as I simply don't know) is broken in so many places and in so many ways. It's one of those issues that seems to have no real solution because the actual solution requires us to completely reimagine how an issue is approached. How do you tell a parent who is ecstatic that the charter school his/her kid goes to is not only safe (neighborhood school may be in a war zone) but also is demonstrating improvement - that charter schools should be defunded because a certain percentage of the operators are crooks. Very sad situation.
Finally, while charter schools are able to get funding partly due to the big names (Gates/Bloomberg) that tout them, I also blame teachers unions for making it so easy for all of the distrust/hatred of the public school system to grow.
That in fact is the problem. Everything is done in order to hit various metrics. The actual education that the student does or doesn't receive is almost secondary.
Our inner city public school system (I can't speak for rural areas as I simply don't know) is broken in so many places and in so many ways. It's one of those issues that seems to have no real solution because the actual solution requires us to completely reimagine how an issue is approached. How do you tell a parent who is ecstatic that the charter school his/her kid goes to is not only safe (neighborhood school may be in a war zone) but also is demonstrating improvement - that charter schools should be defunded because a certain percentage of the operators are crooks. Very sad situation.
Finally, while charter schools are able to get funding partly due to the big names (Gates/Bloomberg) that tout them, I also blame teachers unions for making it so easy for all of the distrust/hatred of the public school system to grow.
greenygreen
Banned
so michigan sucks
and the NYT is propoganda
and charter schools and their lack of outperforming shytty public schools already in Michigan
and Michigan has unregulated charter schools more so than any other state
so
dont talk bad about charter schools?
i really have no idea what youre trying to get at here
especially since it links back to you quoting me simply saying others should read the article
charter schools may or may not be good for students but this article doesnt explain why either way and it paints charter schools in a bad light so its propaganda, just trying to help you see this is not a good article and hopefully help you learn how to distinguish marxist propaganda from useful information
charter schools may or may not be good for students but this article doesnt explain why either way and it paints charter schools in a bad light so its propaganda, just trying to help you see this is not a good article and hopefully help you learn how to distinguish marxist propaganda from useful information
lmao. okay.
sure. gotcha.
from the article
. Michigan’s aggressively free-market approach to schools has resulted in one of the most deregulated educational environments in the country,
Michigan has the most for-profit charter schools in the country and some of the least state oversight. Even staunch charter advocates have blanched at the Michigan model.
you got me there though breh
let me rush upthread and change that to largely
greenygreen
Banned
My wife teaches at a charter school. Just depends who is running the school. She's been there close to 10 years and the lady who handles finances does a good job keeping them afloat. Test scores have gone up the last few years so they are trending in the right direction.