the problem is SF can't support the whole nation's homeless... come on breh what I'm saying is basic, not sure why you're making a point of skipping over my point. It's a catch-22 for cities to have better homeless services cause it increases the homeless population in the city
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the problem is SF can't support the whole nation's homeless... come on breh what I'm saying is basic, not sure why you're making a point of skipping over my point. It's a catch-22 for cities to have better homeless services cause it increases the homeless population in the city
my point is that calling it "a problem" you're only looking at this from the city/state level
and not at a national level
whether or not they're in SF or distributed across Cali, its still a problem. (hopefully you see how a problem like this is mirrored through environmental issues, inner city crime, etc etc etc)
all we're arguing is the distribution of the homeless population as opposed to the actual service to and well being of the homeless population
yeah on the national level I think the main problem was Reagan shutting down mental health institutions in the 80s right? in either case I think turning homeless people back on their feet is a devilish problem, there's a transient population in there who can get back on their feet with support but there's also a long term population in there--addicts, people with mental health issues, etc.--who're just tough to help
yeah but I think that long term population is just a sunk cost we have to deal with
they're still gonna have kids, they still have families that care (in some cases), and they're still human beings....but you know folks have to get 100% return on every investment
I work in social services and we're located right next to a shelter so families get referred to us all the time for different services. I've been in their rooms(it's a tier II shelter) and although it's not the best facility, it's got a bathroom, kitchen and a common living/sleeping area. Shady looking dudes out front and old paint jobs/doors are what you see but some families are there for more than a year and genuinely consider it home for the time being. Thing is, those types of shelters are quite different from one you just happen to walk into and state that you're homeless/dislocated. In those, things aren't as "pleasant". I've heard people tell me that it feels like being in a correctional facilities with the amount of crazy shyt that goes down in those. Adults are one thing, but when you see small children living in those conditions it sucks so much.
wait a minute I don't think long term homelessness is a given
I mean if you gave these guys an apartment (and had it in the government name so they couldn't flip it etc)
then what? they'd live in there rather than out in the cold right
Not sure if serious. Saw in another thread you live in Canada. Carry on.
I read that like
where does he live?Canada huh?
