Why?
Why does it matter why they added these apartments, or who goes through what entrance? Again, would you rather the poor folks be completely pushed out of the city, as they would have been if no low income apartments had been set aside?
NYC Approves Apartment Building With Separate Entrance for Poor People
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Why does it matter why they added these apartments, or who goes through what entrance? Again, would you rather the poor folks be completely pushed out of the city, as they would have been if no low income apartments had been set aside?
And this half step is a step in the right direction? It's a direct slap in the face...another constant reminder that your neighbors make more money than you. You are now not even worth walking through the same entrance that they utilize.
It's sensationalist garbage that got your attention, why did it get your attention? Because deep down you know the possible implications this shytty ruling can have in the future. It sets a bad precedent.
You live in NYC, You live in the "Melting Pot" you should be exposed to the same potential issues as everyone else. You shouldn't have the power to "cut off" a certain part of the fukking building. Don't like it? move to long island or something.
Suppose there is a bad smoke smell coming from "A rich man's" apartment...should the poor person report it? If the poor person walked through the same entrance as opposed to this setup, do you think the chances that he acts quicker to action increase or decrease? It's a simple question.
Can the poor resident even knock on the door? Yes? so inclusion and being a part of the community now acceptable? Get the fukk out of here with this bullshyt.
As far as your bit there about helping poor people. I am actually already having plans drawn up to help poor people with easy steps to potentially get out of their situation in 6 months and only a $200 investment per head. I am trying to get it down to $100 per head and I might have something big.
no half steps
So what's a "full" step?
believe it or not
I like where this is going for some strange reason
I think the delusion of equal opportunity is threatened by such shenanigans and this is a good thing
America's may be forced to look at the lie it keeps telling itself
I like where this is going for some strange reason
I think the delusion of equal opportunity is threatened by such shenanigans and this is a good thing
America's may be forced to look at the lie it keeps telling itself
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Breh these people don't exactly have options, they are getting the opportunity to live in a nice building as opposed to some shytty ass alternatives. What exactly is the problem? How are you going to issue ultimatums to people who are actually financially qualified to live in that building? Go live in Long Island? LOL, in all reality they have the right to tell these "poor" people that if they don't like what's being offered they can go live in public housing. What do you think they'd rather do?
And I'm sorry I just can't fathom why it's such a negative thing to know that the next man may make more money than you....SO WHAT?! I was raised to be thankful for what I have, my family is from a country where poor people literally don't have anything except the skin on their backs, so pardon me if I can't really sympathize with people who may be salty over the fact that their neighbor can afford a benz and a flatscreen and they can't.
Not this shyt, thats for damn sure. Listen I think the program is great in the sense that it helps people win the lottery in terms of affordable housing, but this nonsense breaks the idea that you should be friendly with your neighbors in the same building. You have all decided to be a part of this small community inside where you call home. That is an extremely part of your living situation...why even risk the potential animosity? It sets up potential targets and puts the rich and poor in an uncomfortable position.
If you want to help the poor focus on providing better public housing solutions as a whole.
No, you haven't. Just cause someone lives in the same building as you doesn't mean you are obligated to be buddy buddy. I lived in 5 different apartments over the last 8 years from Crown Heights to the UES. I don't know what NYC you live in, but where I was, nobody was really on the shyt you are claiming is normal. Only buddy buddy people were the ones who lived in a building for decades.... all the young people, for the most part, kept to themselves
If there were going to be "targets" and discomfort with separate entrances, there would be targets/discomfort with a shared one. We can talk about rich people being snobs and all that horseshyt but at the end of the day there are real correlations between various undesirable quality of life and safety issues and poor people, and it's not at all unreasonable to not want to come in contact with those elements (even though those elements aren't caused by all poor people). And no matter how much you try and force it, people from different classes don't mix naturally/easily. People relate to people like them and that's not a bad or prejudiced thing.
Ummmmm, a good way to do that is to keep poor people in the cities they are employed, rather than to displace them and force them to potentially face homelessness starting over. Don't be dumb and put pride before practicality. Poor people getting brand new apartments in safe neighborhoods is a good thing, period.
The problem is that NYC is not doing their part to really fix the issues with public housing. I don't live there anymore and have not researched as to what exactly are the biggest issues, but this shyt doesn't help a great majority. Not only are you not helping the majority of people in poverty, but they are also pointing out the fact that you are poor to the rest of your immediate community that you don't really deserve to live there.
Instead of wasting the time to give these select few the opportunity, why not go deep into the troubled communities and fix the problems there? Real Estate is a premium in NYC. Let the rich buy up the entire new complex and let them handle it themselves. Leave the government services to help the majority, not a select few.
I used to live in Washington Heights and most of the building is still pretty friendly/helpful with each other.No, you haven't. Just cause someone lives in the same building as you doesn't mean you are obligated to be buddy buddy. I lived in 5 different apartments over the last 8 years from Crown Heights to the UES. I don't know what NYC you live in, but where I was, nobody was really on the shyt you are claiming is normal. Only buddy buddy people were the ones who lived in a building for decades.... all the young people, for the most part, kept to themselves
If there were going to be "targets" and discomfort with separate entrances, there would be targets/discomfort with a shared one. We can talk about rich people being snobs and all that horseshyt but at the end of the day there are real correlations between various undesirable quality of life and safety issues and poor people, and it's not at all unreasonable to not want to come in contact with those elements (even though those elements aren't caused by all poor people). And no matter how much you try and force it, people from different classes don't mix naturally/easily. People relate to people like them and that's not a bad or prejudiced thing.
Ummmmm, a good way to do that is to keep poor people in the cities they are employed, rather than to displace them and force them to potentially face homelessness starting over. Don't be dumb and put pride before practicality. Poor people getting brand new apartments in safe neighborhoods is a good thing, period.
If they don't appear to be mixing naturally or easily, then don't do this shyt at all and make a stronger push to help the communities in need. That way you can help the majority instead of the few lottery winners.
I never argued that its not a good thing, but it should be done right.
this is a pure form of class discrimination disguised as capitalism
there is no price being paid for the entries, why would anyone living in the building not have the right to enter it at any civilian entry?
this is so stupid that that there would be any argument over this obnoxious bullshyt
there is no price being paid for the entries, why would anyone living in the building not have the right to enter it at any civilian entry?
this is so stupid that that there would be any argument over this obnoxious bullshyt
The people in your building in Wachitong Heighs have probably been in the building for years, decades even. A lot of them might even be family. Poor families don't move around like young professionals and rich families do. So naturally they would be more invested in their neighbors and those relationships. Professionals and young people who are driving this boom don't mess with neighbors like that.
I don't see why you are so fixated on people mixing. Why does it matter? At the end of the day, money talks, and money is pushing the poor out of NYC. I agree that the poor need more help, and this is not enough. But it's better than nothing, and isn't this huge slap in the face or scarlet letter of poverty you are making it out to be. Even without the separate entrance, it wouldn't be hard to tell who was/wasn't low income, just as it isn't on the train or in the streets or anywhere where everyone mixes up in the city. Poor people are not shopping at Whole Foods or taking yellow cabs on weekend nights, etc... the whole thing about poverty is the absence of choices. So dont play this up when there are tons of other indicators, and in any case nobody is "shaming" people for being poor. You're being a little ridiculous.
There's no easy solution. There's X amount of space and people willing to pay a lot of money for it. There's also a lot of building stock that is old and has to be rebuilt. I think this is a healthy medium and fix for all those issues. I would like if there were more dedicated public housing, but then there is already NYCHA
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In my opinion the situation for poor people in NYC is untenable. Best move for them... is to move. Even with free apartments, "with dignity 
", they'll always be poor and at the mercy of their landlords. There's a reason so many people are leaving. NYC is broken and can't be fixed
", they'll always be poor and at the mercy of their landlords. There's a reason so many people are leaving. NYC is broken and can't be fixed
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This situation is a great snapshot of modern america not because of the 2 entrances, because honestly who gives a fukk about that? Its a door, people will live.
Whats really interesting here is the all too american practice of rich people ( the land developers ) taking advantage of welfare/ programs which are designed to help the poor and using the spoils of that to line their own pockets and maybe give a little discount on the luxury to their rich friends.
Its like they took one right out of the DNC playbook
Whats really interesting here is the all too american practice of rich people ( the land developers ) taking advantage of welfare/ programs which are designed to help the poor and using the spoils of that to line their own pockets and maybe give a little discount on the luxury to their rich friends.
Its like they took one right out of the DNC playbook