Nuccas who box vs. Nuccas who don't proof is in the pudding

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Get the fukk outta here, none of those take down defenses have anything to do with BJJ, thats shyt nikkaz been doing since middle school if you were fighting

wrestlers can take down BJJ guys easily, BJJ mostly about fighiting off your back
How many years experience in Brazillian Jiujitsu do you have in a legitmate academy with a certified black belt with the correct lineage. Its obvious, not much. Fighting off your back is what you do if you HAVE to. Offense from the top is paramount to the art. Please study.
 

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Ive been training MMA for 4 years
Ok so you dont train with a legit BJJ academy with real black belts so its easy to be ignorant on the facts. Yes people train to fight off their back but they have ENTIRE BOOKS on nullifying anyone who might be fighting off heir back or try to stop you from getting them into a dominant position and destroying them. This includes standing but like anything training is what you make it. If you dont train takedown defense and takedowns, you will not be strong just like wrestlers who train to take people down, get the takedown, then get swept onto their back and punished.

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How many years experience in Brazillian Jiujitsu do you have in a legitmate academy with a certified black belt with the correct lineage. Its obvious, not much. Fighting off your back is what you do if you HAVE to. Offense from the top is paramount to the art. Please study.

I don't train to compete in BJJ matches, I train so I can fight anybody on the street at anytime

joe rogan can beat most UFC fighters if they just rolled jiujitsu, but of course in a fight he would get his ass kicked real bad

I'm just talking in regards to the cage, you mostly see the bjj stuff off the back, because its the best art for defending yourself off your back

If someone takes you down your on your back, I was talking about how the gifs have nothing to do with BJJ they way he stopped those take downs

A BJJ guy is not taking a wrestler down, the wrestle will take him down and he will have to work from the bottom

Regardless of your on top or on the bottom, your on the ground, the object of a fight is to stay on your feet put the other guy down

when it comes to stopping take downs bjj is not good example
 

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I don't train to compete in BJJ matches, I train so I can fight anybody on the street at anytime

joe rogan can beat most UFC fighters if they just rolled jiujitsu, but of course in a fight he would get his ass kicked real bad

I'm just talking in regards to the cage, you mostly see the bjj stuff off the back, because its the best art for defending yourself off your back

If someone takes you down your on your back, I was talking about how the gifs have nothing to do with BJJ they way he stopped those take downs

A BJJ guy is not taking a wrestler down, the wrestle will take him down and he will have to work from the bottom

Regardless of your on top or on the bottom, your on the ground, the object of a fight is to stay on your feet put the other guy down

when it comes to stopping take downs bjj is not good example
Again, you dont train enough BJJ to know what is bjj and what isnt. The top control that people display in MMA comes from jiujitsu. You ever notice how people get mount and dude on the bottom, even when trained cant get the guy off and can transition to a variety of moves from there, thats jiujitsu.

A wrestler can take down a bjj guy and he can get swept. Wrestlers have been swept and finished in fights countless times. Theres a reason wrestlers are taking brazillian jiujitsu and its not because they plan on fighting off their back.
 

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Average people off the street trying to hit somebody that practices head movement like a boxer -




Imagine how badly this dude would have destroyed these people in fights :dead:

and this is just a regular dude with some training. now imagine floyd mayweather....the greatest defensive fighter of our time. all it would take is one duck, one counter and the fight is over. people dont understand. the way barry bonds can read a 95 mph baseball pitch, is the same way floyd mayweather can read a punch. the twitches, the subtle body movements....these trained boxers can read all that shyt before you even punch. even the guys who are known for having weak defense like antonio margarito or brandon rios will have most guys on the street hitting nothing but air.
 
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Again, you dont train enough BJJ to know what is bjj and what isnt. The top control that people display in MMA comes from jiujitsu. You ever notice how people get mount and dude on the bottom, even when trained cant get the guy off and can transition to a variety of moves from there, thats jiujitsu.

A wrestler can take down a bjj guy and he can get swept. Wrestlers have been swept and finished in fights countless times. Theres a reason wrestlers are taking brazillian jiujitsu and its not because they plan on fighting off their back.

I know that, and if your on the bottom, your gonna need BJJ to defend yourself from submissions, and to escape

In MMA match its many factors to why a wrestler would get swept becaue he fighters train everything, so its a lot of ways to set that up, because once your in a cage your not a wrestler or your an MMA fighter, your not in there wrestling, and the other guy is not in there competing in juijitsu match

wrestlers train BJJ because they have no choice or they will be submitted, and have careers like chael sonnen

I've never seen a Wrestler taking down by his equal in BJJ, its also the wrestle in the dominant position the getting submitted from the bottom
 

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Elias! That's his name. At least that's what it said in the full length clip that I can no longer find.
What city do you two fight out of?
I viewed his channel (or sponsored channel or whatever) shortly after first seeing this video and the kid is impressive.
As you stated he has great skills, seems to fight very disciplined and focused.

Big daps + Rep for hitting up the thread with the insider info straight from the source :salute:
We were at LA boxing in Orange because Master T got a job there, then UFC bought us out. They fired T last week because he was too old school for their whack ass corporate set up.
 

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Raymond Daniels is a Sensei at Wold Championship Karate in Orange. T isn't training anyone too seriously right now but is always working with Allias and my boy Corey "Pinky" Flores. This video is just the last few seconds from Pinkys fight earlier in theyear



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Big man got that work.

He had that ex boxer looking like Sergio Martinez in there with all of the jabs to the body and straight lefts up top.

I think what frustrates dudes the most is when they see how hard it is to actually hit somebody clean that knows what they're doing. The discouragement is mad visible once they throw a bunch of haymakers that miss or get blocked. nikkas start out like :obama: and then :dwillhuh: followed by :sadcam:and it usually ends with one of these :whoa: or :deadrose::snoop:

Dat White Lightning.... :ohlawd:
 

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them boys cant scrap so they try and jump ya
 
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