NSA reportedly intercepting laptops purchased online to install spy malware

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Government has a tough time with burner phones. Can we get some burner laptops?

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But come on... paying with cash isn't going to prevent the government from finding most people. We leave trails everywhere. You might be good though if you're in the hood.

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you have a point dead7. obama expanded many of these programs instead of the alternative and costlier option of more boots on the ground. that said, there aren't many (any?) options to slowing down or stopping the political and strategic equivalent of a freight train going full speed down hill and still maintain a safety net. it's also shortsighted to say "take responsibility" (or fix) 8 previous years of policy making, strategy, etc when the homeland security climate was so toxic and threatening (by our own doing in many cases). it's not simple to unring that bell.

personally i think we're in a catch 22. i can see terrorist (foreign or domestic or "patriotic') taking advantage of any reduction in scope of spying. i don't know the answer, but i agree something needs to change. and we'll likely have to make some big sacrifices, probably even to our own safety to regain some of our liberties. is the general public up for that though?
 

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This is part of the reason I'm coming to dislike Snowden a little bit...
This dude is gonna cost US BUSINESSES a fukk ton of money. :beli:
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they'll just use him as an excuse. things are headed in a certain direction and nothing can stop it. we turn up, they turn up. someone talks, they just block that channel and blade it on the snowden/snitch. then your types blame it on snowden. :bryan:
the only thing you can hate snowden for is letting you know.. cause ignorance is bliss.

someone was destined to talk. infact maybe it was just a setup for him to talk like they did with bradley manning cause i don't see how they give these guys classified info and just wait to see what they're gonna do with it..

the guys at the top are just laughing at the powerless hating and fighiting each other.
 
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you have a point dead7. obama expanded many of these programs instead of the alternative and costlier option of more boots on the ground. that said, there aren't many (any?) options to slowing down or stopping the political and strategic equivalent of a freight train going full speed down hill and still maintain a safety net. it's also shortsighted to say "take responsibility" (or fix) 8 previous years of policy making, strategy, etc when the homeland security climate was so toxic and threatening (by our own doing in many cases). it's not simple to unring that bell.

personally i think we're in a catch 22. i can see terrorist (foreign or domestic or "patriotic') taking advantage of any reduction in scope of spying. i don't know the answer, but i agree something needs to change. and we'll likely have to make some big sacrifices, probably even to our own safety to regain some of our liberties. is the general public up for that though?
I agree 100%, I just think when faced with these tough decisions, we should err on the side of liberty.
 
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