NPR ARTICLE 📄: Jay-Z called out the Grammys. What if Black artists said enough is enough?

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Can't simply tell her to make an AOTY worthy album? :what:

We as a people sure do go about complaining about the wrong shyt

This is a dumb post. Clearly she made an album worthy enough for contention 4 times as that's the amount of times she was nominated. She didn't win though. And again, 2015 was the year she should've won.
 
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When it comes to AOY, Beyonce has a couple of things working against her.

1. She uses a shyt load of writers/samples.

2. There's a lot of explicit language in her music.

try again :camby:

A Reddit post from last year, shared following the release of Red (Taylor’s Version), showed that Swift’s album with the most swears (classified here as uses of the words “f*ck,” “sh*t,” “b*tch,” “hell,” “g*ddamn,” “damn,” and alternate forms of those words) was Evermore, with 18 total uses of swear words. That data could use to be updated now that Midnights has arrived, so I crunched the numbers.

Using the lyrics from the album’s songs, as listed on Genius, I tallied the uses of the aforementioned curses across the album (excluding the songs from the expanded 3am Edition) and found there were 28 swears: ten uses of “sh*t,” seven of “f*ck,” six of “damn,” three of “g*ddamn,” and two of “hell.” Add the mention of “dikkhead” in “Question…?” and we have a total of 29.

 

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the thing I don't understand about black folks and these award shows is that as long as they are winning, everything is good. As soon as they are not winning, it's a problem. Only 1 person can win a category each year. Just stop showing up to the shows and have them pull your name from the categories. sinead o'connor refused her grammy. Marlon Brando refused his oscar. These are cheap trinkets worth absolutely NOTHING because now they have contracts that you can't sell them. Arstists want you to believe they are pro black, but at the same time value the opinion of kkkrakkers on a grammy/oscar panel. Doesn't make sense to me. We have our own award shows and none of these mfers complaining about grammys show up. I just can't believe millionaires argue every year over a $14 trinket


Facts and music is subjective anyway
 

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In my opinion, this is bigger than being fair to Beyonce or Jay. Posts in this thread prove how Black artistry is treated. No matter what a Black artist does, it will never measure up. You gotta be perfect to even be acknowledged and even then we search for fault in out own people. Why does Beyonce's music have to be self written and profanity free to win an Album of the Year? Let's remove Beyonce from the equation. Lauryn and Kast won album of the year, and people still pick them apart for not being Hip Hop enough. Not even that, but it becomes why didn't 50 win the year Kast won or how Lauryn ain't top the charts (she did and even set records and outsold Madonna).

Why don't Black artists start their own shows? Ya'll won't even watch. Grio and the Image Awards don't get the viewership. Soul Train Awards is the same deal. There was a time where Grammys didn't matter until the day after and that was only when we found out that one of our own won the big award or cleaned up. No value is no longer placed on the awards for us and by us because we clown on our own. Joke that the BET Awards is the EBT Awards.

And people are like, the Grammys don't matter. They do. There is a difference and level of respect in the industry that comes with being a Grammy winner or an Oscar winner. Its the difference between a yes and a no from people in power.
 

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This is a dumb post. Clearly she made an album worthy enough for contention 4 times as that's the amount of times she was nominated. She didn't win though. And again, 2015 was the year she should've won.

No she didn't

Her albums aren't that good. Good singles here or there
Where is her Miseducation? Don't have 1
 

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In my opinion, this is bigger than being fair to Beyonce or Jay. Posts in this thread prove how Black artistry is treated. No matter what a Black artist does, it will never measure up. You gotta be perfect to even be acknowledged and even then we search for fault in out own people. Why does Beyonce's music have to be self written and profanity free to win an Album of the Year? Let's remove Beyonce from the equation. Lauryn and Kast won album of the year, and people still pick them apart for not being Hip Hop enough. Not even that, but it becomes why didn't 50 win the year Kast won or how Lauryn ain't top the charts (she did and even set records and outsold Madonna).

Why don't Black artists start their own shows? Ya'll won't even watch. Grio and the Image Awards don't get the viewership. Soul Train Awards is the same deal. There was a time where Grammys didn't matter until the day after and that was only when we found out that one of our own won the big award or cleaned up. No value is no longer placed on the awards for us and by us because we clown on our own. Joke that the BET Awards is the EBT Awards.

And people are like, the Grammys don't matter. They do. There is a difference and level of respect in the industry that comes with being a Grammy winner or an Oscar winner. Its the difference between a yes and a no from people in power.
Breh black artists think they are above black shows. How many BET awards and shyt Beyoncé alone be skipping?
 

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Breh black artists think they are above black shows. How many BET awards and shyt Beyoncé alone be skipping?
nah i think some black artist dont want to go to black shows because of the disrespect


you can lie its alot of disrespect open disrespect

for example doggie diamonds been calling jay a devil that sacrifice goats etc...for years


but when jay sat down for a interview with kevin hart (the one with the 4500 hundred to the cousin thing)


doggie ws pissed jay wont sit down with him


like breh you been shytting on that man for years but you want him to talk to you?



its just like corey holcom calling shannon sharpe gay and being disrespectful for years but now he hot with the club shay shay


he wants to get on there


cant have it both ways
 

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Well Jay and Bey show up to the Grammys. BET and them be having to accept the award on their behalf. It starts with Jay and Bey. Uplift one of the many black award shows that cater to black people :yeshrug:
 

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Well Jay and Bey show up to the Grammys. BET and them be having to accept the award on their behalf. It starts with Jay and Bey. Uplift one of the many black award shows that cater to black people :yeshrug:
the same black shows and stations that talk shyt about them?


i keep hearing they not all that


i mean boosie shows up he real right?
 

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The same status and hyped that worked for them in being nominated so many times is now working against them.

How many times has Jay been nominated for albums that certainly weren't anything close to AOTY worthy? The same for songs.

How many Beyonce albums are actually great works? And that's universally great. Unfortunately for her, she's always up against someone greater...whether that be in vocals, writing or playing instruments.
 
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