North Korea just conducted a nuclear test

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The Iranian president probably is willing to do a "I'll scratch your back if you scratch mine" deal.
He's a two-faced homie. Yeah, he wants nuclear energy for electricity, but he also wants nuclear bombs for power. He's crazy too and wants to the capability to wiggle his dikk over more areas of the Middle East.
 

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:ufdup: only 1 country on the world has used nuclear weapons in a hostile manner (twice)
Uh yeah, it was used against Japan because they were not willing to give up. Very stubborn leaders. We had to rip them a new one or else the war would have been prolonged. And when it comes to being hostile, the US didn't invade and take over Japan after they surrendered like the Japanese did in China. :beli:
 

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none of that makes me rest easy. in many ways, they're already on a suicide mission

the play these games when they need food or need to play the mad dog role to keep the US from fukking with them. I seriously doubt anyone in that regime really wants war...especially the nuclear kind.


A memoir from Kim Jong's former Japanese Chef. Some of the accounts are :russ:

I Was Kim Jong Il's Cook - Kenji Fujimoto - The Atlantic
 

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Obama vows swift action over nuclear tests but North Korea remains defiant | World news | guardian.co.uk

Barack Obama vows swift action over nuclear tests but North Korea remains defiant

Obama has vowed to take "swift and credible action" over North Korea's "highly provocative" nuclear test which appeared to bring Pyongyang closer to producing a viable weapon.

The United Nations security council held an emergency meeting in New York on Tuesday morning to "strongly condemn" Pyongyang's most powerful underground blast to date as a "clear threat to international peace and security".

The council called the test a "grave violation" of earlier resolutions and warned that it will strengthen sanctions just three weeks after the latest wave took effect.

But North Korea remained defiant, describing the test as a "preliminary measure" and threatening "stronger" actions unless the US ends its "hostility".

Experts said the explosion appeared to be an important step toward developing a nuclear bomb capable of fitting to a long range missile.

South Korea raised the level of its military alert.

Pyongyang's defiance was expected to force its way in to Obama's state of the union speech on Tuesday because the president was planning to make a call for a cut to nuclear weapons stockpiles worldwide. But while Obama's frustration was evident from the strength of his denunciation, it is less clear what the US can do about North Korea's actions.

"This is a highly provocative act that, following its December 12 ballistic missile launch, undermines regional stability," said Obama. "North Korea's nuclear weapons and ballistic missile programs constitute a threat to US national security and to international peace."

North Korea described the latest nuclear test as a "first response" aimed at defending itself from the "US threats".

"This nuclear test was our preliminary measure, for which we exercised our most restraint," an unidentified North Korean spokesman told the state news agency. "If the United States continues to come out with hostility and complicates the situation, we will be forced to take stronger, second and third responses in consecutive steps."

The ministry did not say what those steps might be.

Obama said the nuclear test offered only an illusion of greater security.

"These provocations do not make North Korea more secure. Far from achieving its stated goal of becoming a strong and prosperous nation, North Korea has instead increasingly isolated and impoverished its people through its ill-advised pursuit of weapons of mass destruction and their means of delivery," he said.

"The danger posed by North Korea's threatening activities warrants further swift and credible action by the international community. The United States will also continue to take steps necessary to defend ourselves and our allies."

The test was condemned by other countries including China, which is best placed to pressure the North Korean government with measures such as cutting oil supplies but has so far backed only limited sanctions.

The UN secretary general, Ban Ki-moon, called Pyongyang's actions "deplorable" in ignoring international opinion. The British foreign secretary, William Hague, described the nuclear test as a "clear and grave violation of the relevant UN security council resolutions" and said that North Korea faced further isolation.

The North Korean test may have been timed to coincide with Obama's state of the union speech in which he planned to call for a sharp drawdown in the number of nuclear warheads, proposing to drop the US arsenal from about 1,700 to 1,000.

It was to be one element in a speech expected to define Obama's second term agenda and announce a number of initiatives, including plans to more than halve the 66,000 troops the US has in Afghanistan by this time next year as the Pentagon prepares for the final pullout of combat forces by the end of 2014.

The president is expected to strongly press comprehensive immigration reform and to renew his call for an assault weapons ban in the wake of the school shooting in Newtown, Connecticut.

The White House, along with congressional Democrats, has invited dozens of victims of gun crime or their relatives to attend the speech. Among Michelle Obama's guests will be the parents of Hadiya Pendleton, 15, who participated in the president's inaugural parade last month and was then killed in a shooting in Chicago.

Among others attending the speech will be former Arizona congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords, who was badly wounded in a shooting in Tucson two years ago.

To counter the move by supporters of more gun control, a Texas congressman, Steve Stockman, has invited rock star Ted Nugent to attend. Nugent is an ardent supporter of the National Rifle Association, and last year said he would either be "dead or in jail" if Obama were re-elected.

Obama is also expected to tick boxes on the need to combat climate change and in favour of clean energy, although there appears little chance of the president getting major environmental legislation through the Republican-controlled House of Representatives.

But the White House has indicated that the core of the president's speech will focus on strategies to strengthen the American middle class as a means of bolstering a slowly improving economy. Obama told Democratic party members of the House on Thursday that job creation remains at the heart of that.
 

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http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/12/opinion/north-koreas-lesson-nukes-for-sale.html?_r=0

North Korea’s Lesson: Nukes for Sale

THE most dangerous message North Korea sent Tuesday with its third nuclear weapon test is: nukes are for sale.

The significance of this test is not the defiance by the North Korean leader, Kim Jong-un, of demands from the international community. In the circles of power in Pyongyang, red lines drawn by others make the provocation of violating them only more attractive.

The real significance is that this test was, in the estimation of American officials, most likely fueled by highly enriched uranium, not the plutonium that served as the core of North Korea’s earlier tests. Testing a uranium-based bomb would announce to the world — including potential buyers — that North Korea is now operating a new, undiscovered production line for weapons-usable material.

North Korea’s latest provocation should also remind us of the limits of Western policies, led by the United States, that focus on “isolating” the hermit kingdom. Such policies do not isolate us from the consequences of North Korea’s actions. For a decade, American policy makers’ attention has been consumed by Iran’s attempt to build its first nuclear weapon. During those years, American officials believe, North Korea has acquired enough plutonium to make an arsenal of 6 to 10 nuclear bombs, depending on the size, and is now most likely producing enough highly enriched uranium for several more bombs every year.

Nuclear weapons can be made from only two elements: uranium that has been highly enriched, and plutonium. Neither occurs in nature. Producing enough of either fuel for a bomb requires a significant industrial plant. North Korea produced its stock of plutonium at its Yongbyon reactor, but that plant was shuttered in 2007 during a hopeful period in international talks about curbing its nuclear arms program. By then, Pyongyang had reduced its arsenal by one bomb, with its 2006 test, and in 2009 it used up a second bomb in another test. We should only hope that it continues conducting plutonium-fueled tests until this stockpile is eliminated.

Those numbers figure heavily in the more realistic American assumption that North Korea would most likely use uranium fuel in a third test, rather than further deplete its limited stock of plutonium.

Two years ago, North Korea unveiled a showcase uranium enrichment plant at Yongbyon capable of producing enough highly enriched uranium for several bombs annually. There is no evidence, however, that this showcase has become operational. American experts therefore believe that Pyongyang must have another still-undiscovered parallel plant that has been operating for several years. That plant by now could have produced several bombs’ worth of highly enriched uranium.

Hence the grim conclusion that North Korea now has a new cash crop — one that is easier to market than plutonium. Highly enriched uranium is harder to detect and therefore easier to export — and it is also simpler to build a bomb from it. The model of uranium-fueled bomb dropped on Hiroshima in 1945 was so elementary, and its design so reliable, that the United States never bothered to test one before using it. Yet it killed more than 100,000 people. As the former secretary of defense Robert M. Gates put it, history shows that the North Koreans will “sell anything they have to anybody who has the cash to buy it.” In intelligence circles, North Korea is known as “Missiles ‘R’ Us,” having sold and delivered missiles to Iran, Syria and Pakistan, among others.

Who could be interested in buying a weapon for several hundred millions of dollars? Iran is currently investing billions of dollars annually in its nuclear quest. While Al Qaeda’s core is greatly diminished and its resources depleted, the man who succeeded Osama bin Laden, Ayman al-Zawahiri, has been seeking nuclear weapons for more than a decade. And then there are Israel’s enemies, including wealthy individuals in some Arab countries, who might buy a bomb for the militant groups Hezbollah or Hamas.

President Obama has rightly identified nuclear terrorism as “the single biggest threat to U.S. security.” If terrorists explode a single nuclear bomb in an American city in the near future, there is a serious possibility that the core of the weapon will have come from North Korea.

The Bush and Obama administrations have repeatedly warned the North Korean regime that it could not sell nuclear weapons, materials or technologies without being held “fully accountable.” But the United States used precisely these words before Pyongyang’s sale of a nuclear reactor to Syria — which by now would have produced enough plutonium for Syria’s first nuclear bomb had it not been destroyed by an Israeli airstrike in 2007. With what consequences for North Korea? Pyongyang got paid; Syria got bombed; and the United States was soon back at the negotiating table in the six-party talks.

Given America’s failure to hold Kim Jong-un’s father, Kim Jong-il, accountable when he sold Syria’s president, Bashar al-Assad, the technology from which to make a bomb, could the younger Mr. Kim imagine that he could get away with selling a nuclear weapon or bomb-making material? The urgent challenge is to convince him and his regime’s lifeline, China, that North Korea will be held accountable for every nuclear weapon of North Korean origin.

Mr. Obama should send Mr. Kim a direct, unambiguous message, with a carbon copy to the Chinese leadership in Beijing, warning that if a nuclear bomb of North Korean origin were to explode on American soil or that of an American ally, the United States would respond precisely as though North Korea itself had hit the United States with a nuclear-tipped missile. An unambiguously forceful warning, backed up by a credible threat of commensurate force, is the only guarantee that even the zealous, isolated North Koreans would hear.
 
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