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China builds bunkers, airfields and missile bases along disputed border with India

Both Delhi and Beijing have been deepening their relative footholds in the contested region. Two years ago China’s legislature passed a law which said that authorities should “promote coordination between border defence and social, economic development in border areas”.

Images from the US satellite firm, Maxar, show a new build-up of Chinese infrastructure in another disputed area called Aksai Chin, which is around 40 miles from the border. The photographs show bunkers and tunnels being dug into the hillside, which military experts say are designed to protect Chinese armaments and troops from air attacks by the Indian Air Force.

“Such infrastructure indicates preparations for an eventuality of hostilities,” Rakesh Sharmahe, a retired lieutenant general in the Indian army told the Hindustan Times. He added that China had been creating roads, oil pipelines, communications systems, housing for troops and storage for equipment over the past three years.

Both sides lay claim to territory on either side of the frontier in a dispute that has festered since the countries went to war in 1962. Three years ago tensions flared when Chinese troops crossed the border in eastern Ladakh to seize strategic positions.


Three years ago tensions flared when Chinese troops crossed the border in eastern Ladakh to seize strategic positions.

Soldiers from both sides died in the resulting clashes, bringing India and China the closest they have been to war in almost 70 years. Frequent clashes followed, though with fewer fatalities.

The two sides clashed in June 2020 when Chinese troops crossed the Line of Actual Control to seize strategic positions

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At the recent Brics summit in Johannesburg, an “informal conversation” about the border row took place between India’s prime minister, Narendra Modi, and President Xi of China. The pair reportedly failed to come to any agreement, with Beijing briefing reporters that Modi had asked for the meeting while Delhi said it was China’s suggestion.

Modi is understood to have told Xi that restoring peace on the border and respecting the LAC was essential for normalising relations. However, this week the border dispute escalated again after Beijing issued a map that included the Indian state of Arunachal Pradesh and Aksai Chin in China.

China claims that Arunachal Pradesh is part of Tibet; in the past it has renamed Indian villages and protested when Indian officials visited the state. China also claims that Aksai Chin (most of which it controls) is Chinese. India has historically considered the region its own.

President Xi, second from left, and Narendra Modi, second from right, had an informal conversation at the Brics summit but did not come to any agreement

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“This is an old habit of theirs,” said Subrahmanyam Jaishankar, India’s minister of external affairs. “Making absurd claims does not make other people’s territories yours.”

The photos and map put Modi under greater pressure from opposition parties, who since 2020 have mocked him for “surrendering” Indian land and “sleeping while China was preparing for war”.

Asaduddin Owaisi, an Indian politician with the Aimim party, said: “China’s preparations on the border should be sending alarm bells within the government. India’s response cannot be weak and timid. We need to stand up to China. But we have a PM who can’t call out China by name and a government that stalls all discussions in parliament on the subject.”

The Indian opposition has urged Modi to rebuke Xi and “expose China’s transgressions” at the G20 meeting

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The tensions also threaten to upset India’s hosting of the G20 in September where it is thought Xi will attend. The Congress party has urged Modi to rebuke Xi and “expose China’s transgressions” at the summit.

Retired naval commodore C Uday Bhaskar told The Times that the construction on the border and the map were a clear case of China “raising the temperature for India and Modi in the run-up to G20”.

“India has been firm about wanting a return of the status quo,” said Bhaskar. “There is also the fact that India’s standing is being showcased at G20. This is an attempt to put India on the defensive at the summit.”
 

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Putin Powerless to Complain About China Claiming Russia Territory​

BY JON JACKSON ON 8/30/23 AT 3:31 PM EDT

Chinese media outlets this week shared a new geographic map from China's state-owned standard map service that shows Russian territory as part of China.

The map, which is said to have been approved by Beijing and was released by China's Ministry of Natural Resources, comes as Western observers have speculated that the relationship between Russian President Vladimir Putin and Chinese President Xi Jinping has become strained.

Shortly before Putin launched his invasion of Ukraine in February 2022, he and Xi signed a "no limits" partnership agreement, but Chinese officials have since publicly called for a peaceful resolution to the war. Earlier this month, the Institute for the Study of War think tank wrote that China's public stance of neutrality in regard to Ukraine is causing a fissure between Beijing and the Kremlin.
Putin Powerless to China Claiming Territory

Russian President Vladimir Putin and Chinese President Xi Jinping shake hands following talks at the Kremlin on March 21. Western observers have speculated that the relationship between the two leaders has become strained.MIKHAIL TERESHCHENKO/SPUTNIK/AFP/GETTY

The new map will likely not help Russia-China ties, George Mason University Schar School of Policy and Government Professor Mark Katz told Newsweek.

"The Kremlin very definitely pays close attention to Chinese maps—especially official ones—claiming that Russian territory actually belongs to China," he said.

However, Katz added that if Putin is upset, he "is not in a position to loudly complain about this since Moscow has become so dependent on economic relations with China as a result of Western sanctions."

The 2023 geographic map indicates that Bolshoy Ussuriysky Island on the Amur River is part of China. Russia and China disputed claims over the island beginning in the 1860s until the two nations agreed to divide the territory in a 2008 treaty, according to the Russian business news outlet RBC.

Whereas the agreement gave the western part of Bolshoy Ussuriysky Island to China, the standard map service shows the entire island as Chinese territory.



Newsweek reached out to the Russian and Chinese foreign ministries via email for comment.

Russian land was not the only territory belonging to another country that was claimed by the Chinese map. India's Arunachal Pradesh state and the border region of Aksai Chin are also shown as belonging to Beijing on the map.

On Tuesday, New Delhi said it had lodged a formal protest with China over the map, and India's foreign minister, Subrahmanyam Jaishankar, called the claim on Indian territory "absurd."

"The Chinese like to use maps as assertions of their authority and power—or what they wish their authority or power was," David Silbey, an associate professor of history at Cornell and director of teaching and learning at Cornell in Washington, told Newsweek. "The most recent famous examples are the nine-dash line maps that they've put out, claiming grand swaths of land in the South China Sea."

Silbey said the new map doesn't quite violate the 2008 agreement, "but it's a tiny little poke of the Russians, nothing too major but just annoying enough to be meaningful, like stealing a piece of food off of someone's plate."

Katz said the Kremlin may take a different approach than India in protesting the territorial claim made in the map.

"Moscow's response to this new official Chinese map is likely to be reciprocal in the sense that the Russian government will point to its own map about what China and Russia agreed to in 2008," Katz said. "Besides, redrawing a map on paper is not the same thing as trying to forcefully redraw a map on the ground, as Russia has sought to do in Ukraine. Nor does Beijing seem likely to attempt to do anything like this at present."

He continued, "Still, Moscow must be concerned that this relatively small Chinese territorial claim, despite a previous agreement, might be followed by even larger ones."
 

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Scoop: U.S., Saudi, India, UAE hope to ink railway deal to connect Middle East at G20​

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President Biden and Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman in July 2022. Photo: Royal Court of Saudi Arabia/Anadolu Agency via Getty Images

President Biden and Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman in July 2022. Photo: Royal Court of Saudi Arabia/Anadolu Agency via Getty Images

President Biden and the leaders of India, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates hope to announce a major joint infrastructure deal on Saturday that will connect Gulf and Arab countries via a network of railways, two sources with direct knowledge of the plan told Axios. It will also connect to India through shipping lanes from ports in the region,
Why it matters: The project is one of the key initiatives the White House is pushing in the Middle East as China's influence in the region grows. The Middle East is a key part of China's Belt and Road vision.
  • The joint railway project is expected to be one of the key deliverables Biden wants to present during the G20 Summit in New Dehli this weekend.
  • It comes as the Biden administration seeks to complete its diplomatic push for a mega-deal with Saudi Arabia that could include a normalization agreement between the kingdom and Israel before the 2024 campaign consumes Biden's agenda.
What they are saying: The White House declined to comment. It said in an earlier statement previewing Biden's trip that the president will participate on Saturday in a "Partnership for Global Infrastructure and Investment event."
  • A U.S. official involved in the talks said the work on the announcement is still ongoing and it is not final yet.
  • The Indian and Saudi embassies in Washington did not immediately respond to a request for comment. The Emirati officials declined to comment.
  • If the four countries finalize the negotiations in the next two days, their leaders will sign a memorandum of understanding outlining the parameters of the project.
How it works: The project is expected to connect Arab countries in the Levant and the Gulf via a network of railways that will also connect to India through seaports in the Gulf, the sources said.
  • If Saudi Arabia and Israel normalize relations in the future, Israel could also be part of the railway project and broaden its reach to Europe via Israeli seaports, according to the sources.
Between the lines: An announcement of the project will likely increase the chances of a possible brief bilateral meeting between Biden and Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman on the sidelines of the G20.

Flashback: Axios first reported talks for the project were underway in May, when White House national security adviser Jake Sullivan traveled to Saudi Arabia for a meeting with his Saudi, Emirati and Indian counterparts.
  • The project was one of the main issues discussed at that meeting, which launched a series of follow-up negotiations led from the U.S. side by Biden's senior adviser for energy and infrastructure Amos Hochstein, the two sources said.
The big picture: The idea for the new initiative came up during talks that were held over the last 18 months in another forum called I2U2, which includes the U.S., Israel, the UAE and India, according to the two sources.
  • The forum was established in late 2021 to discuss strategic infrastructure projects in the Middle East and to serve as a counterweight to Beijing's growing influence in the region.
  • Israel raised the idea of connecting the region through railways during the I2U2 meetings over the last year. Part of the idea was to use India's expertise on such big infrastructure projects, one source said.
  • The Biden administration then expanded on the idea to include Saudi Arabia's participation.

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crazy that it's easier for a U.S president to advocate the building of a national railway in another country than it here because of all these damn car, oil, and airline lobbyists.

Just think about how great a Seattle to Phoenix high speed network would be, or a Boston to Baltimore route. Too bad something like that will never happen in this country.
 

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Interesting I didn’t expect that may be too little too late. Biden need to sat his ass down somewhere
 
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