No talk about Amani Toomer blasting Ray Lewis?

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ONly someone with a clean record can be religious to Amani.

Dude is an idiot.

You again being deliberately obtuse. No one is saying that. It's just Ray should know better giving his past that it's going to make him target. Ray should know it does more harm than good to use religion in the way he has making him above criticism.

When the Ravens lose, it will be because of "Ray's distractions off the field"...You better believe it's coming and he'll have no one to blame.
 
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Ok. Since we into shyts & giggles, let's keep it real for a sec: Do you ACTUALLY believe that Ray Lewis is a genuine person? :usure:

Is there any reason/evidence to suggest he isn't, despite this anti-Lewisism stance that folk have got going on; desperately trying to degrade his character by finding any lil' weight they can use against him and exaggerating it to suit their predisposed take of who they think he is - just because:

a) they're put off by him using the NFL as a stage for his own personal pulpit
b) he was involved in murdering TWO people, and nothing he'll ever do out of 'redemption' will change that because he'll always be a "ex-double murderer".
 

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Is there any reason/evidence to suggest he isn't, despite this anti-Lewisism stance that folk have got going on; desperately trying to degrade his character by finding any lil' weight they can use against him and exaggerating it to suit their predisposed take of who they think he is - just because:

a) they're put off by him using the NFL as a stage for his own personal pulpit
b) he was involved in murdering TWO people, and nothing he'll ever do out of 'redemption' will change that because he'll always be a "ex-double murderer".

Who's exaggerating any details? As you mentioned, the 2 people he was involved in MURDERING ain't coming back. Ask those families how they feel about Ray. Ask Ray why he won't reveal what really happened in Buckhead in Jan of 2000.

The drug use is real too...Is Ray agitated he keeps getting asked about it or agitated that it's getting exposed.

He's a fraud breh. His whole act is disgusting to me & to millions of others who see him as a hypocrite
 
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That's not the point. Many people have turned their lives around without going into religious rants and acting as if their religion puts them above criticism. Then so use the scripture wrong? :heh: There are millions of people who turn their lives around without murder charges, baby-mamas and PED use. It's insulting.

That's the point Amani was making. When has Ray ever acted like his "religious rants" put him above criticism? There are also MILLIONS of people who turn their lives around WITH murder charges, baby mamas and drug use etc etc. Your point?

Like homeboy said there's no order in finding god.
 

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Oh the irony of calling a guy out for drawing attention to himself when the whole intention behind your comments was to draw attention to yourself. :heh:
 

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You again being deliberately obtuse. No one is saying that. It's just Ray should know better giving his past that it's going to make him target. Ray should know it does more harm than good to use religion in the way he has making him above criticism.

When the Ravens lose, it will be because of "Ray's distractions off the field"...You better believe it's coming and he'll have no one to blame.

I'm being obtuse about Amani's comments?

Notice how nothing you stated incorporated Amani's comments.

I focused on the stupidity of his comments. Only those with a clean record can seek god? :what:

You can't TURN to god!! Your record isn't clean!!!


That is DUMB.
 
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Who's exaggerating any details? As you mentioned, the 2 people he was involved in MURDERING ain't coming back. Ask those families how they feel about Ray. Ask Ray why he won't reveal what really happened in Buckhead in Jan of 2000.

The drug use is real too...Is Ray agitated he keeps getting asked about it or agitated that it's getting exposed.

He's a fraud breh. His whole act is disgusting to me & to millions of others who see him as a hypocrite

You are. By using "deer antler spray" as an example to suggest he hasn't turned his life around. Why should I even entertain those rhetoricals, when they have been beaten to death in the media and on this board - which really are result of him 'turning his life around'.

What evidence do you have to suggest that he's a fraud?
 

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how is he a fraud though all he ever really states is he believes in god and anybody involved in any type of shyt is allowed ot believe in god

moses killed a dude accidentally while stopping a fight and god made him a prophet so :heh:
 
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I can make an educated guess. :troll: Best way to predict the future is by the past. There is a reason credit history is taken into account when having money lent to you :troll:

Naw. That's not an educated guess. That's an illogical guess. Has anything he done since then outweighed his genuine attempt to rectify his life? What scandals has he been in since then? What catastrophic mistakes has he made since then (and not insignificant mistakes that all humans make on their path to 'finding god')?
 

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how is he a fraud though all he ever really states is he believes in god and anybody involved in any type of shyt is allowed ot believe in god

moses killed a dude accidentally while stopping a fight and god made him a prophet so :heh:

You bring up a good point which strengthens my point. The act of changing who you are is the hardest thing to do. Ask yourself how many people you know who have battled addiction whether smoking or drinking actually overcome that addiction? Majority never will overcome that.

The act of changing is the hardest thing a person can do any many don't. I am also extremely weary of those who publicize this "change" in a self indicting, self persecuted way. As if those who don't believe him are haters or devils or a weapon formed against him :troll: No we are simply rational people who recognize his prior lifestyle was rooted in a smug, arrogant attitude and this "change" reeks of the same scent. I am also weary of your comments because it is ignorant and arrogant as almighty. To liken anyone in current time to Moses? :what:

Just the other day Chris Brown likened himself to Jesus after fighting with Frank a$$hole as wide as the Ocean. I guess all the ignorant brothas today who go jail will come back like Malcolm? :mjpls: We all know that doesn't happen because changing is the hardest thing you can do.
 
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