Its KL (real name Craig Lawson). Was known as "Craig from the Parkway" back then. Craig B (Bazile) only joined NL in 96 and began producing songs for the Ice Cream Man album. KL knew him from the NO and wanted him to join the BBTP crew (him and Mo B at that point). O'Dell joined in early 97, he's a great musician, great on the piano, his first NL song was on the Bout It OST (Gambino Family song iirc). C-Los had Spiral Records and his TSO Click, made beats for the Down South Hustlers album and the 96 NL albums. I think he became an "official" BBTP member in late 97/early 98
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That's how I feel. It is was like P told them go head and do them and what they came up with was magic. I always wondering why after both BBTP (mainly KL) and Fiend left they didnt reconnect for another album
Well P and BBTP (mostly KL personally) had a huge fallout in mid-99. BBTP wanted more money, P told them to stay humble. Serv told this in an interview, it's on YT
besides that, BBTP and the NL artists felt that P didn't focus on the music enough in 99, instead spending alot of time on No Limit Sports, No Limit Films, the action figures, pro wrestling, tryouts for the NBA etc
Fiend, Serv, Mystikal all would have stayed on NL, but P cut them off and felt betrayed (all of them plus Mia being loyal to BBTP and probably not wanting to cut ties completely. P was disappointed with Street Life's album sales and the general downward spiral of NLR in mid-99). You have to remember P was getting attacked by alot of jealous industry cats, from Pastor Troy to Yukmouth to Cash Money to Pimp C to C-Bo etc. And now he felt BBTP and many of his artists are also attacking him while he made every single one of them rich, and playing the immoral dirty music industry like a fiddle, proving to be a real pioneer for black folks to get their welldeserved dinero and take care of their business the right way
C still did some collabos with Big Ed, Fiend afterwards, but P made it a point to not work with em again
Shame how things turned out
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phonthought3000
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True I remember an old Source article with P and they were naming names of old soldiers and when they brought up Fiend u can tell P sounded disappointed as far as him not staying. Why didn't the other soldiers reconnect with BBTP after no limit to do albums. I kno KL did a song or two there for soldiers but why not whole albums they had the freedom
No idea, Medicine Men did produce quite a few songs for Fiend, Mystikal, Skull, Big Ed, Kane&Abel afterwards tho. I think they were just really burnt out and wanted to live their lives for a while, enjoy their riches. Also I'm pretty sure P blackballed them and some former soldiers (Fiend, KLC, later on Magic f.e.), like influencing radio/video stations, A&R's etc to not push them/release their albums/promote them right
phonthought3000
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Is that why Fiend never dropped The Addiction when he was on ruff ryders. I always felt this joint would be a ill solider track (produced by Fiend)
Have the line up be:
Fiend
Magic
Mac
Bun B
Skull Duggery
Eightball
Loved that song, but NYers hated on it because it sounded so southern and rowdy...Mac and Magic would've ripped it
The Addiction was supposed to come out in 2001/02 sth like that, on RRR...but actually came out in 2006 as a completely different album. Fiend did alot of work for Jada, Twista, Trick Daddy, Trina and others tho, like songwriting, hooks etc
phonthought3000
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I remember he spoke on ghosting and doing hooks for different artists I remember he got a deal with Atlantic for a bit after leaving RR that's how he got work for Trick, Trina, Juve, Twista I remember he blessed this hook.
Always wanted another headbussaz album as well....good lawd imagine a fiend Lord infamous collab
YourMajesty
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Isn't that Sonya C (P's ex-wife) talking with Pac?
I liked nobody makes a sound though, 2-4-1 were comedic on there, that fiend verse >
@M.DOT @OHSNAP!
opinions on West Coast Bad Boyz/Down South Hustlers compilation?
So much pain actually might be my new favorite Carlos Stephens production lol. I rather have the other members of BBTP produce an entire album, but with C-Los I know I will get one dope amazing cut out of him that will ring out.
Did you ever listen to Sonya C's EP?
opinions on West Coast Bad Boyz/Down South Hustlers compilation?
So much pain actually might be my new favorite Carlos Stephens production lol. I rather have the other members of BBTP produce an entire album, but with C-Los I know I will get one dope amazing cut out of him that will ring out.
Did you ever listen to Sonya C's EP?
Also, with "I'm Bout It". KLC's daughter actually did the drums to that beat by accident. That was one of the coolest stories I recall from No Limit. KLC actually talks about it in the interview below:
I didn't know that "I'm Bout It" was originally a commercial for Wild Wayne. I also didn't know that the beat was made for Serv.