Yeah I got it, same with ghetto fabulous by mystical. That sounded better though
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This.
Ghetto Fabulous was actually my favorite Mystikal album until I got older and realized how much he rehashed from Unpredictable with weaker results. Still, these were dope:
That's The nikka
I Smell Smoke
Life Ain't Cool
Stick Up
I'm On Fire
Ghetto Fabulous
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Round out the tank >
I really messed with D.I.G. hard when he came out. I really thought he had next. Everything at the time, in real time, he was killing shyt. He actually stood out the most to me.
I felt like he was raw and wasn't scared to call out anything, fresh new talent. I wish P would have dropped an album on him
The song D.I.G. did with Magic was crazy. I bumped the hell out of that song and that album.
Them boys ran with Baby back in the teens days, I believe Rufus was Baby's O.G. Joe Casey I believe owned a barbershop in uptown and fronted birds to the folks. The MMB, I don't know too much about them.
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this album was some mid!!! only 1 or 2 I like, the rest are ok and some are just trash and tired. KLC was reusing shyt from '97, imo he should've had O'dell helm that project, Mia brought him into the camp anyway. @JustCKing @OHSNAP! @You know damn well @Wacky D @NO-BadAzz
That album lol, and again I'm speaking in the context of me being in the moment "real time" I like to write from when the time the album came out and what all was happening surrounding that album. When this album came out, I think P dropped the ball and what I mean is, at the time, CMR was steaming. "Ha" had been on the radio heavy down here in the city and there really wasn't a radio single out for Mama Drama's album that I could remember folks gravitating towards
Ha caught on quickly, very quickly and Juvie's album was somewhat on everybody's radar at the time down here. Mia X (by her being a female) I felt she needed a radio single like a Party Don't Stop that caught the attention of everybody. I believe P tried to use the same format, I can't recall if her Keith Sweat's sample was her radio single, if it was, it didn't get any real play down here, or on the radio, Juvenile's HA shot up to Number 1 quickly on our countdown, so by it being #1 and everybody's walking around the city, at HS, at Middle Schools, quoting his lyrics, using that slang, Juvenile's HA caught everybody attention and folks hopped on the HA train.
Nobody was really "quoting" anything by Mia at the time. She had no juice or anything and the teens, wasn't going out and just buying Mia X like that, only the real NL fans per say, but in the city to be hot, you have to have the teens/college folks, dope boys, radio team in your corner and at the time Juvenile had that going for him with Ha.
I just believe that album from Mia didn't have anything that caught the attention of that sector that I just named, Juvenile 400 came out a week later and it was a wrap, that's all you heard in the city, especially around Bayou Classic when the city is 100x on fire. Both albums came out in the 4th quarter of that 98 year.
I'm not saying folks didn't fukk with Mia's album, I had a few patnas of mines who bought the album off GP, but to be honest, that 400 degrees got more burn among the ppl in the city over Mia's album
this album was some mid!!! only 1 or 2 I like, the rest are ok and some are just trash and tired. KLC was reusing shyt from '97, imo he should've had O'dell helm that project, Mia brought him into the camp anyway. @JustCKing @OHSNAP! @You know damn well @Wacky D @NO-BadAzz
Also, you have to remember, and again "real time" leading up to that album, what was Mia X really on? Meaning did "we" the public see her, did she stand out on songs that kept her fanbase checking for her like that, leading up to Unlady like, she was on everything, killing shyt. TRU 2 Da Game, Ghetto D, I'm Bout It, FEDz, I Always Feel Like? She was in videos ect. She was on dope ass songs on the B-Side of albums, Ghetto D "Plan B" No Limit Solider, ect. So people, everybody was checking for her album to drop.
Leading up to her "Unlady Like" album, she had appeared in "Make'em Say Ugh" and she had her video "Party Don't Stop" with Foxy Brown and Master P who was hot at the time, and the song was a smash, so that caught everybody's attention. She did her thing on Make'em Say Ugh also.
It's something so simple but visuals matters when selling an album. I don't think "we" as fans saw her leading up to her Mama Drama album like we did leading up to her first album, I believe the last time we actually saw her was in "Thinking about You" video and that was over the summer maybe. I can be wrong, but I'm looking back in real time and tryin to connect the dots on why her album didn't hit like "Unlady Like" did.
I remember reading a Magazine, I can't remember the magazine but it listed all of NL albums that were coming out, and it was straight heat, all A listers and this may have been in August/September of 98, I remember reading the Magazine in my 3rd hour class lol, so I was in school and her album hadn't come out yet and I can recall getting hype over who all was dropping. It may have been in May of that year, I can recall dayum, I say that because Snoop's album came out in August and I can't remember if he was in that line-up, I wanna say no because he wasn't signed to NL yet. Dayum, but the point I am trying to make, whenever that magazine came out with that list, it was at a time when NL was slowing down.
I remember my crew were slowing bumping CMR heavy heavy, I can remember the so call "shift" that happened, I felt it. Wayne started to really pop down here in that summer of 98, he was hopping on more songs, Block Burner was tearing shyt up down here, even though there wasn't a video for that song, the song made it to radio somehow, I don't even think that song, the blockburner was an "official" single for that Hot Boy album but the song was so raw, folks down here forced the radio to play it,. He had to make a radio edit version for that song I believe. He was in the Big Tymers video Stuntin Remix, so now folks are seeing him on TV, I remember when the video came on "Phat Phat & All That" and how hype we was seeing dude, we at school talking about how this dude who his dayum near our age, in the video with Baby.
Dude was 13 or 14 at the time. To me his coming out party was on the Big Tymers "How you Luv That album" folks may say the first Hot Boys album but for me I would say that the Big Tymers album he really got in his bag, and over that summer 98, he was at Family Day in the Park (where Juvie shot his Back That Ass Up video) pretty much a concert down here that was put on here, in NOLA and in BR. He was showing up at Super Sundays, the whole CMR click, so they were the crew that everybody starting gravitating towards and these dudes were teenagers from the city. So everybody around their age are going to lean towards them over a NL. These dudes are a group now killing shyt. Talking about shinning and doing regular shyt that WE as teens did.
This play a huge part in the so call "shift" Wayne's breakout year 98 when folks started to check for him heavy, folks that were around my age 9-17 etc
I believe after MP Last Don and Snoop's arrival, the "shift" had taken place within the crowd from the ages of 5-25 give or take, folks hopped heavy on the CMR train especially when it was announced that they went nation wide in 98. After that, when those album came/dropped, I think it was somewhat NL last hold on the game, those two albums were, and after that, CMR just scooped up everybody. Mystikal's album was maybe a last try to get the crowd back and NL which it did somewhat, it had folks checking for Mystikal but after that, I think it was a done deal and what I mean is, folks would still fukk with NL, but not as heavy as they fukked with CMR shyt
Mia X's album Mama Drama just was a causality of the "shift" in my opinion, others may think different of course, but being there, and actually living in real time, I can really see this being the case.
I really hope somebody who was around would do a documentary or something about this, "The Shift" and really go into depth with it, what all elements played a part.
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Solja Rags or 400 Degreez @NO-BadAzz
Breh, These questions take me back to "real time" I see myself answering your questions looking back when things actually happened and their impact.
I would have to say 400 degrees for me. Just the energy around that album was insane, It dropped November 3rd on a Tuesday, Thanksgiving was 2 weeks away and school was about let out for the holiday. The Bayou Classic was that weekend, this was when the Bayou Classic would have dayum near every black superstar, person from all over the country down in the city for the weekend event. Every black person HAD to be there at this event, just down in the city for that matter.
I can remember 400 degrees being played in EVERY barbershop down here. When I say EVERY, no lie, every single barbershop had that album playing when you walked in. Brehs who were old enough during that time "real time" when living down here could attest to what I am saying.
Thanksgiving was that Thursday, The Bayou Classic started that Friday, Saturday, Friday afternoon literally. That week, Mon-Wednesday, folks were getting haircuts, we were in school talkin about how shyt is going down for the Bayou Classic, and that 400 degrees was on repeat. The tape lol. We had cassette tapes rewinding that shyt, CDs too. But no lie, the impact that the album had on the city during that time was insane. Rich nikkaz was crazyyyyyyy That song and Wayne on that song breh. Breh, in real time it was stupid crazy on what would happened at the parties when that song came on.
3-4 albums that I can attest to coming up that I have witnessed that made time just stop, the way that these albums placed an imprint on time at the moment, one was 400 degrees, Ghetto D, Mystikal's Unpredictable album. Hot Boys Guerilla Warfare is in that listing too
When those albums came out, time literally froze, everybody, haters included had those albums. Impactful ass albums for the city. Them albums did damage to the city, meaning it literally made folks 'have' to have that album, like we as human have to have air, nikkas and everybody had to have these albums at no cost. Others may disagree but those 4 albums, when released, during that time, literally froze time. Everybody and their mama had them albums and if you didn't have the album, fukk around and you didn't have that album, brehs would literally look at you like you were retarded.
400 degrees for me for just its impact that it had on the city. The outside world hadn't caught on to that album yet and that's what I liked about it, I wish we could literally go back to that era, when things were a 'slow' burn, We were literally were the 1st to just really dive into that album, hold it as high like the Bible, Juvie made that album for NOLA, that album is New Orleans to the core. The people that came to the Bayou Classic, understood how strong that album was, it was literally EVERYWHERE you went.
If a nikka wanna know something about NOLA, listen to 400 degrees, the slang, the verbiage, the diction, the aura of NOLA is in 400 degrees. That album is up and down NOLA
Even though Solja Rags started a whole movement around the world because we were already on the rags, Slim had put us on them, Juvie just stamped it and made it official, that album didn't hit impactfully like 400 degrees and I can lean one way on any given day and say Solja Rags is better lol
The only reason I place 400 degrees over Solja Rags and it's not by much is because I am factoring in the elements that took place surrounding when both albums were released. The impact and the moments that were created when those albums were released.
doesn't guerilla warfare feel watered down compared to Get It How You Live!
That's one of the few albums that's actually better, that album to me was a step up, more polished, more structured. Better story telling, their chemistry and cohesiveness on that album was amazing. They were a unit unit. Everybody came with it on every song and it made sense. Everything fit. The production was amazing and the placement of songs on that album was good timing, meaning, not every banging song was at the beginning, middle or towards the end. The shyt bumped from front to back, no skips.
The only song I would say I didn't like personally was "U Dig" Juvenile's solo song, I believe that it was called that.
That album was great breh
Get It How You Live, I felt, they weren't a unit quite yet. The chemistry was there, but it didn't complete yet, especially by it being their first complete album together. Some verse were too long, unnecessary things being said, etc, because of their first time. Story Telling was there, but really wasn't.
GW, that shyt was on a whole nother level to me. Very polished.
idk breh, the big tymers introThat's one of the few albums that's actually better, that album to me was a step up, more polished, more structured. Better story telling, their chemistry and cohesiveness on that album was amazing. They were a unit unit. Everybody came with it on every song and it made sense. Everything fit. The production was amazing and the placement of songs on that album was good timing, meaning, not every banging song was at the beginning, middle or towards the end. The shyt bumped from front to back, no skips.
The only song I would say I didn't like personally was "U Dig" Juvenile's solo song, I believe that it was called that.
That album was great breh
Get It How You Live, I felt, they weren't a unit quite yet. The chemistry was there, but it didn't complete yet, especially by it being their first complete album together. Some verse were too long, unnecessary things being said, etc, because of their first time. Story Telling was there, but really wasn't.
GW, that shyt was on a whole nother level to me. Very polished.
50 shots
block burner
dirty world
spit'n game
blood thicker
The original we on fire
Mannie's production was fresh as hell on it
All bangers what you listed, no doubt, but
Respect My Mind
Ridin
Shoot 1st
Help
We on Fire (Part 2)
Bout Whatever
I Need A Hot Girl
Clear The Set
Get Out The Way
Tuesday and Thursday
@NO-BadAzz when C-Murder Life or Death dropped how big was it? That is a perfect album breh, also any stories of Full-Blooded and his hounds? 
@NO-BadAzz when C-Murder Life or Death dropped how big was it? That is a perfect album breh, also any stories of Full-Blooded and his hounds?
I remember when Wild Wayne (local DJ down here) interviewed C on the countdown, that's when he was dating Monica but kept it on the low low, C announced that he was coming out with an album. Said he was just sitting back watching and waiting for the right time to drop his album. I believe he also said that he didn't wanna drop an album but P kinda kept asking and asking, but when he said that he was coming out with an album, I remember everybody talkin about it the next day as it was a big deal in schools, outside and shyt. Barbershops
C's album was an album that was highly anticipated, I remember people were asking for the album since TRU. If you can recall in real time, a person being on as many projects like C was on and killing shyt like he was, it created hunger for him to release his own album, and it didn't help that he was the only TRU member and brother without a solo album. That there somewhat had folks feenin' for a solo project from him. As I stated, I don't think he wanted to even do a solo project, I don't wanna say that he was forced but he kinda was.
Dude had a mystery about himself, He rarely was in videos, he didn't do photo opps, you really didn't see dude all in front of the cameras, and he didn't get the exposure like P and Silk did leading up to his album, but you still could feel him per say, he was still there.
I can remember this in 98, Southern University at the time (and still is) was the shyt, that was the place to be on Saturday nights, Southern had a big ass game that Saturday night, I remember going to the game with family that year, we drove to BR. C was walking on the track, during the game, and I believe Warrick Dunn and Charlie Ward was at the game, maybe it was Warrick Dunn, they were on the track too, I think Bobby Bowden was at the game too, someone can correct me if I am wrong, but I do recall C there and do walked over to where the fans were and it was a dayum mobb, cops and sheriffs had to come over and stop the madness. The football game was going on while all this rukus was going on lol. shyt was crazy.
But when his album dropped, the city took it in. The only knock that I would say was that he had a "soft" safe easy single, it wasn't something that we as fans saw C rapping on, his style was more in your face, knuckle up, gangsta talk, so for him to put out a single so laid back such as Second Chance, the single was a Meh in the city, but the B-Cuts on the album made up for it.
I can remember hearing "Truest shyt I Ever Said" that song was so hard and Constantly in Danger.
I don't have any stories off the top of my head about FB and the hounds, some other NO brehs or brehs may know something about their runnings.