No-Limit Master P (5 part Docuseries) Wednesday 9pm EST on BET

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

Not about bragging, bout being truthful. Like all bosses (from mafia to legal business), he won't tell the whole truth bout anything, and keep his mouth shut on dangerous topics. With time I'm sure he understood he made alot of mistakes that hindered NL having a longer successful run

what is there to be truthful about??

they beat pimp c ass. its well-known. what else is there to talk about it??
if they had a segment about it, then all these johny-come-lately UGK fans would be in an uproar because pimp c aint here.

as for the other stuff, i didnt have time to address earlier, but im doing it now below:

P sometimes admits to making some mistakes, or some business going down, but never outright names it. That's what I don't like bout him. He'd never admit blackballing King George, CMR, Magic, Serv, Pastor Troy (kinda understandable but still), BBTP etc (I know C didn't like P blackballing his friends/former NL soldiers). He'd never admit grownman-nappin' Pimp C. He'd never admit doing too many outside ventures that hurt NL's music business in 99

are there any CEOs that actually do what youre demanding of master p??

high-key, most artists get blackballed when they leave a label, if they dont jump into the right situation afterwards. at least P made sure these dudes were paid when they were rolling with him. i mean, you got CMR in your post. baby ripped everybody off, then blackballed them.

as for the outsiders that he allegedly blackballed, at least P is getting it how he lives and isnt crying about being blackballed himself.

 

[Trav]

Feel like P was hating on Baby & Slim a lil


During the 1st or 2nd episode with the reenactment sit down, it was both parties agreed that it wasn't the right fit.

Then during the 4th or whatever, P said it was because of the Magnolia and Cali Project beef.

Now, I dont doubt these hoods had their beefs but in subsequent interviews that I've watched online and shyt, both Baby and P state their artists all fukked with each other and it wasnt no beef thing and they allude to them 2 just not vibing like that.

But P framing it as he saved Baby's life like No Limit wouldve instantly let them thangs fly soon as they saw a Cash $ nikka in a Priority building.

Feel like P just saw them as a rising threat and tried to snuff they spark out before they got started but it ended up working out in Cash Money's fsvor with Universal.

 

[Trav]

Just like he didn't admit to the 4080 cover story.

The owner and editor himself told me the story.

P would make bomb threats and all kinds of wild shyt.

So he did or did not pull out the blicky?

 

[Playaz Eyez]

Feel like P was hating on Baby & Slim a lil


During the 1st or 2nd episode with the reenactment sit down, it was both parties agreed that it wasn't the right fit.

Then during the 4th or whatever, P said it was because of the Magnolia and Cali Project beef.

Now, I dont doubt these hoods had their beefs but in subsequent interviews that I've watched online and shyt, both Baby and P state their artists all fukked with each other and it wasnt no beef thing and they allude to them 2 just not vibing like that.

But P framing it as he saved Baby's life like No Limit wouldve instantly let them thangs fly soon as they saw a Cash $ nikka in a Priority building.

Feel like P just saw them as a rising threat and tried to snuff they spark out before they got started but it ended up working out in Cash Money's favor with Universal.

This is how I looked at it, and it was a huge blow to No Limit. It’s crazy though that Master P was practically overpaying people, while Birdman and his brother had so many Cash Money rappers under these horrible contracts. People can say what they want about P eventually being involved in too many things, but he actually paid his artists and paid them in real time, instead of having those artists fight for their money for 15 and 20 years.

 

[Pimp]

Feel like P was hating on Baby & Slim a lil


During the 1st or 2nd episode with the reenactment sit down, it was both parties agreed that it wasn't the right fit.

Then during the 4th or whatever, P said it was because of the Magnolia and Cali Project beef.

Now, I dont doubt these hoods had their beefs but in subsequent interviews that I've watched online and shyt, both Baby and P state their artists all fukked with each other and it wasnt no beef thing and they allude to them 2 just not vibing like that.

But P framing it as he saved Baby's life like No Limit wouldve instantly let them thangs fly soon as they saw a Cash $ nikka in a Priority building.

Feel like P just saw them as a rising threat and tried to snuff they spark out before they got started but it ended up working out in Cash Money's fsvor with Universal.

Master P never spoke on what happened to Pastor Troy but Troy said what happened 20 years later. JT the bigga figga said what happened 25 years later.. Pimp C other people said what happened. P ain't a clout chaser...

This guy said he seen Master P slap Birdman..

 

[FeloniousMonk]

So he did or did not pull out the blicky?

It's was a threat, breh.

No. P didn't drive to Berkeley to pull out a pistol and demand the cover.

 

[360dagod]

Feel like P was hating on Baby & Slim a lil


During the 1st or 2nd episode with the reenactment sit down, it was both parties agreed that it wasn't the right fit.

Then during the 4th or whatever, P said it was because of the Magnolia and Cali Project beef.

Now, I dont doubt these hoods had their beefs but in subsequent interviews that I've watched online and shyt, both Baby and P state their artists all fukked with each other and it wasnt no beef thing and they allude to them 2 just not vibing like that.

But P framing it as he saved Baby's life like No Limit wouldve instantly let them thangs fly soon as they saw a Cash $ nikka in a Priority building.

Feel like P just saw them as a rising threat and tried to snuff they spark out before they got started but it ended up working out in Cash Money's fsvor with Universal.

Rufus mack from cash money said p blocked their deal with priority...

I read online that there was beef with bird brother and p brother...

Also read online that the upt song on 400 degreez was a diss to no limit..I guess the hotboys ran into no limit at a club and it popped off...

I'm nowhere near new Orleans so I cant call it

 

[360dagod]

This is how I looked at it, and it was a huge blow to No Limit. It’s crazy though that Master P was practically overpaying people, while Birdman and his brother had so many Cash Money rappers under these horrible contracts. People can say what they want about P eventually being involved in too many things, but he actually paid his artists and paid them in real time, instead of having those artists fight for their money for 15 and 20 years.

I dunno breh....

The thing is these no limit rappers never sold enough records to have that issue...
And the people who he had an issue with are the people(beats by the pound)he sharked moneywise...

If a nikka selling 200k records, he might be good with what p is giving him...at the same time, p might have been taking off the top instead of maybe using some to promote the artist better..

And if he had their publishing, he did what stunna did...
My overall point is most of these artists were never successful enough to have an issue with p..

In snoop's case, he was already sharked by death row and had at least enough knowledge not to sign certain types of deals

 

[YakSpiller]

Silkk The Creator

Bruh lookin like Tyler big brother now!

 

[Alvin]

Just like he didn't admit to the 4080 cover story.

The owner and editor himself told me the story.

P would make bomb threats and all kinds of wild shyt.

He don't want a charge on him

 

[Alvin]

Nah P wouldn't let him do his thing solo. He would have had to have himself and c-list artists all over songs.

Plus, P never spent real money on videos and you were lucky if you got one. And you were even luckier if the video played on BET or MTV. Mystikal needed to be a standalone artist with all the attention focused on him. He only had 2 videos on NL and that's a shame.

BBTP's biggest problem was that they got overworked having to rush all their beats. When they had time, they created classic albums like Tru 2 Da Game, Ghetto D & I'm Bout It Soundtrack. It's a shame how many good beats got wasted on c-level artists.

Fam I disagree, LIL ITALY had a damn video. P basically didn't need videos if it was already selling units, bird and slim did the same, same with prince and draper why spend unnecessary money

 

[Alvin]

Yeah the way P mentioned that nikka in songs I always figured he was a hitta. Same way Birdman mentions Cito and Tonto on wax. But then again P said "My manager TC you know he bout it bout it" and Tobin comes off as a super square

he was just down with the click

 

[Marlo Barksdale]

Fam I disagree, LIL ITALY had a damn video. P basically didn't need videos if it was already selling units, bird and slim did the same, same with prince and draper why spend unnecessary money

Nobody ever saw that Lil Italy video. Most of those videos outside of the Miller boys only aired on local rap shows. A good majority of them never made it to MTV or even BET. That would have taken money.

P saved money but it hindered the development of the artists' careers because they got no push and were forgotten a week after their album dropped. That's a big reason why almost none of the artists made noise after NL's run.

An artist like Mystikal needs videos to showcase his personality. Especially in the 90's when music videos were everything. To go next level, you had to focus on videos. CMR did and blew up. Suave & No Limit didn't and it stunted their artists.

 

[OHSNAP!]

Nobody ever saw that Lil Italy video. Most of those videos outside of the Miller boys only aired on local rap shows. A good majority of them never made it to MTV or even BET. That would have taken money.

P saved money but it hindered the development of the artists' careers because they got no push and were forgotten a week after their album dropped. That's a big reason why almost none of the artists made noise after NL's run.

An artist like Mystikal needs videos to showcase his personality. Especially in the 90's when music videos were everything. To go next level, you had to focus on videos. CMR did and blew up. Suave & No Limit didn't and it stunted their artists.

Man I ain't never found the goddamn Full Blooded video to this day! (Quickest Way To Die, great choice as a single/vid lmao)

you're right, the massive output meant that every B and C act was forgotten after a week, on to the next album...

Miller Boys, Mia and Snoop did have somewhat expensive/well-done vids tho, can't argue on production values there, from 98 on especially. Some looked cheap too yeah (It Ain't My Fault 1 and 2 or Woof come to mind). Talk It Like I Bring It/Mr Whomp Whomp, Still A G Thang and Light It Up looked good

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

Feel like P was hating on Baby & Slim a lil


During the 1st or 2nd episode with the reenactment sit down, it was both parties agreed that it wasn't the right fit.

Then during the 4th or whatever, P said it was because of the Magnolia and Cali Project beef.

thats two different time periods tho.

besides, i think the beef was moreso between the people they were down with, rather than the average cat from those hoods.
plus i always heard P pulled a gun on Gangsta.

he definitely threw some subs at cash money tho, talembout he saved their lives.

and i do think that he just didnt want them on priority period. if i was P, i wouldnt want them on the same label as me either. too much of a conflict of interest on top of the other ish. but it backfired, cuz universal threw the machine behind CMR full-throttle. i doubt priority wouldve done that.