No-Limit Master P (5 part Docuseries) Wednesday 9pm EST on BET

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And hopefully, this ends all of the speculation. Below is what each Master P album actually sold as of 2007:

MASTER P 99 WAYS TO DIE: 292,518
MASTER P GAME FACE: 433,198
MASTER P GHETTO POSTAGE: 600,805
MASTER P GHETTO D: 3,185,221
MASTER P GHETTO'S TRYING TO k*ll ME (re-release): 290,070
MASTER P GOOD SIDE/BAD SIDE: 260,999
MASTER P ICE CREAM MAN: 1,248,375
MASTER P MP DA LAST DON: 2,255,122
MASTER P ONLY GOD CAN JUDGE ME: 677,727
MASTER P GHETTO BILL: 89,713
 

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You don't get it. It had already shipped 2 million copies within a month of release. Shipments =/= sales. It took years for the album to sell the amount that it shipped.

You don't get it.

You as a CEO just doesn't say I'ma ship 2 million copies of my album within a months time: June 2nd - July 10


Silk's - Charge it 2 Da Game... states that it

FEBRUARY 1, 1998 Release date

Platinum | March 25, 1998 SOLO Standard 1 Million None
Gold | March 25, 1998


So P is only going to ship 1x albums within this month's span?? when you have April - Jan 1999 left

Why didn't P ship 2 million albums

"It aint my fault" was a big single... People wanted his album... That was his second video which was huge, which would make people want to go and get more copies of the album

That shyt you talking about is major cap...
 

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And hopefully, this ends all of the speculation. Below is what each Master P album actually sold as of 2007:

Breh them sources are cap....

By your logic

A CEO can say, I want to "ship" 3 million records, and within a month 30 days, RIAA will stamp it as 3x. (even though it didn't sell 3x according to YOUR logic that you say the RIAA goes by)

Make that make sense?
 

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P shipped more than he sold records. Simple as that. He fukked Priority over bigtime

As I asked breh who is spewing this foolishness and maybe you can help me understand this better since you understand it...

If P "shipped" 1 million records for a Lil Italy album, then that means his album will get a certified plat by RIAA?? correct?? After 30 days, even though there are still sales on the shelf (I'm using the logic JCK posted) The same dude that said Jay was being played in the South in 97 (smh)

What stops a Puff, or Baby/Slim for shipping 4 million records for the next project?? IF RIAA is going to stamp it 4x with 30 days

Make that make sense

All I'm trying to do is make it make sense so I can catch them cats in a lie too...I don't want P and others lying to me about their album sales.
 

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So basically what I deduced is, compare P to J Prince or Tony Draper, in that yes, he may have inflated numbers compared to nationally and internationally known artist such as Biggie, Pac, Nelly, Eminem or 50 but you have to look at how much P, Prince and Tony made off each CD. They made a higher percentage of the CD, tours and merch than those listed artists did, so yes why they may not have sold that much (Besides Face and Geto Boys, Rap-A-Lot's artist were really known unless you were down south, same for Suave House) they made a higher percentage off each sell.
 

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yall goin 15 pages back and forth about the record business certifications, sales, RIAA etc... yall nikkas dont know anything at all..
its embarrassing
 

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@NO-BadAzz @JustCKing @Goldz-n-hoez

So basically what I deduced is, compare P to J Prince or Tony Draper, in that yes, he may have inflated numbers compared to nationally and internationally known artist such as Biggie, Pac, Nelly, Eminem or 50 but you have to look at how much P, Prince and Tony made off each CD. They made a higher percentage of the CD, tours and merch than those listed artists did, so yes why they may not have sold that much (Besides Face and Geto Boys, Rap-A-Lot's artist were really known unless you were down south, same for Suave House) they made a higher percentage off each sell.

Just asking

What stops J Prince from shipping 2 million albums for a Geto Boys project??

According to RIAA, the Geto Boys have 3 Gold albums and 1 platinum

TILL DEATH DO US PART was released on March 93 and hit gold on May 93 (2 months) Why would J prince NOT "ship" more albums after 2 months of this album being hot??? Same with the other GOLD albums that were made?


Release Date Previous Certification(s) | Date(s) Category Type Certified Units Genre
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MARCH 9, 1993 Gold | May 10, 1993 GROUP Standard 0.5 Million No
 

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No Limit was basically a ponzi scheme. P would get a big advance from Priority everytime he released a record. Tobin Costen, Master P's manager, said that P's gift was his ability to talk record stores into preordering high amounts of records.

That's a big reason why you got the 23 albums in 1998. He'd give the artist a piece of the advance and keep the rest. Then he kept the publishing for many of them (Big P Music).

Well, after about a year, Priority realized they were getting lots of returns of unsold No Limit CDs and weren't recouping.

Priority got new people running it and they came back and sued for $47 mil. Then BBTP weren't getting paid and they had a lawsuit for backpay. P got stretched and didn't make the payments. He had No Limit file bankrupcy in 2003.

So P basically ran off with millions in advances on Priority and did the exact same thing to Universal Records with his New No Limit record label. That's why he's been effectively blackballed and doesn't get honored by the industry.
So P was finessin before Young Scooter made it famous.
 

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Just asking

What stops J Prince from shipping 2 million albums for a Geto Boys project??

According to RIAA, the Geto Boys have 3 Gold albums and 1 platinum

TILL DEATH DO US PART was released on March 93 and hit gold on May 93 (2 months) Why would J prince NOT "ship" more albums after 2 months of this album being hot??? Same with the other GOLD albums that were made?


Release Date Previous Certification(s) | Date(s) Category Type Certified Units Genre
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MARCH 9, 1993 Gold | May 10, 1993 GROUP Standard 0.5 Million No
I'm not an expert so don't quote me, but the point is you over ship, the record will sell, but it won't sell as much as I am shipping. So if I shipped 750,000 that means 500,000 will buy, which leaves the retailers with 250,000, they order more because they believe they will sell more (better to have excess stock than no stock).
 

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No Limit was basically a ponzi scheme. P would get a big advance from Priority everytime he released a record. Tobin Costen, Master P's manager, said that P's gift was his ability to talk record stores into preordering high amounts of records.

That's a big reason why you got the 23 albums in 1998. He'd give the artist a piece of the advance and keep the rest. Then he kept the publishing for many of them (Big P Music).

Well, after about a year, Priority realized they were getting lots of returns of unsold No Limit CDs and weren't recouping.

Priority got new people running it and they came back and sued for $47 mil. Then BBTP weren't getting paid and they had a lawsuit for backpay. P got stretched and didn't make the payments. He had No Limit file bankrupcy in 2003.

So P basically ran off with millions in advances on Priority and did the exact same thing to Universal Records with his New No Limit record label. That's why he's been effectively blackballed and doesn't get honored by the industry.
didn't most of those southern moguls do the same to a degree? J Prince, Draper, Triple 6, Uncle Luke?
 

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Which is further proof that KLC needed P because he wasn't doing shyt before P.
yep after they left No Limit KLC would have the only success as he was producing for t.i., ludacris and mystikal here and there but the others have been cold. If both parties simply renegotiated than No Limit would've lasted longer.
 

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I'm not an expert so don't quote me, but the point is you over ship, the record will sell, but it won't sell as much as I am shipping. So if I shipped 750,000 that means 500,000 will buy, which leaves the retailers with 250,000, they order more because they believe they will sell more (better to have excess stock than no stock).

Correct

Nobody's an expert, but we all have intellect and simple understanding.

If you're a CEO.

You ship 1x for one of your artists, Release the album August 1998, comes September 1998. RIAA stamps your artist with a platinum album

You get your platinum plaque, What is your next move as a CEO?? You're only 30 days in and you've done hit 1x

What's your next move for that album?
 
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