Nintendo is the only company innovating in 2016 while xbox and sony playing you morons for fools

[itsyoung!!]

So? You do realize PSVR is the #1 VR platform with the most sales and it's only been out less the two weeks right?

also the cheapest version of VR (and also the weakest)

McDonalds sells a lot too, are you saying they offer quality food ?

 

[Cladyclad]

also the cheapest version of VR (and also the weakest)

McDonalds sells a lot too, are you saying they offer quality food ?

It's much cheaper vr than Sony

 

[Kill Dat Noize]

nintendo revolutionizing the world.

i can't believe it.

are you ready for this?

you may wanna sit down.

in 2016...

nintendo...

brings the world...

Spoiler

portable gaming

 

[BlackManLiveFromLondon]

The fukk?
You the one who brought up milking genius

The dude you quoted was talking about remasters.

And furthermore you brought up a bunch of different franchises that only has the name Mario in it.

Nobody plays Mario for a story, the gameplay is always on point so bringing up some princess getting captured like that's seriously the reason people buy Mario is fukking dumb.

Mario party is not Mario kart is not Mario RPG is not smash bros.

Y'all be sounding retarded on here seriously.

I'm not going to reply to a guy complaining about remasters when all 3 do the same damn thing

There are people who do play Mario for the story, lets not put the on and try to speak for the millions who buy Mario. Its the story + the gameplay that make up the game

Saying 'bu bu but the gameplay bruh nobody cares about the story' is a pretty wack cop out and I'll remember that for the future If I ever see you in another thread complaining about the story of a game

And your last point I'm not sure what you're trying to say but it doesnt change from the fact that Mario is one of (if not the) the most milked franchises in gaming

but alas I look forward to Mario Kart 9 ... Mario Party # ? , Mario at the next Olympic games :smirkcry:

 

[itsyoung!!]

It's much cheaper vr than Sony

outside of the Samsung head set that was given for free I cant think of any major VR release cheaper than Sony's

 

[Fatboi1]

I'm not going to reply to a guy complaining about remasters when all 3 do the same damn thing

There are people who do play Mario for the story, lets not put the on and try to speak for the millions who buy Mario. Its the story + the gameplay that make up the game

Saying 'bu bu but the gameplay bruh nobody cares about the story' is a pretty wack cop out and I'll remember that for the future If I ever see you in another thread complaining about the story of a game

And your last point I'm not sure what you're trying to say but it doesnt change from the fact that Mario is one of (if not the) the most milked franchises in gaming

but alas I look forward to Mario Kart 9 ... Mario Party # ? , Mario at the next Olympic games :smirkcry:

No the fukk there isn't. nobody buys a fukking super Mario platformer anticipating the story. get the fukk outta here

 

[winb83]

Cut it out man. Nintendo has a large stable of IPs outside Mario. We going to act like Smash Bros, Animal Crossing, Kid Icarus, Golden Sun, F-Zero, Pikmin, Mother, Kirby, Mario vs Donkey Kong, Mario RPG etc don't exist?

Most of those franchises are old as hell. Some of them are pretty much defunct. The newest of those listed in probably Pikmin and that's about 15 years old.

We gonna pretend that the stable IPs they have don't switch it up entirely?? Zelda OOT, Mario 64, Mario Galaxy, SMB 3, Metroid Prime etc. Those games were innovative as fukk and completely different from other entries in their franchises. No one is tired of those franchises because each time they come out they're completely new and fresh. This isn't a Uncharted 2 to Uncharted 3 or Halo 3 to 4 difference. Some of the games have big differences in between each iteration which trumps this narrative that each entry is more of the same. You can't just say "Oh it's more of the same" and then pretend every other franchises that's longstanding is completely new and innovative each entry. How many more Call of Duty's or Battlefields until people are bored?? None, fans of those series will argue you to death saying how each entry is new and special until the next one comes out and they're saying how the older entry was better.

They tinker with the formula but at it's core it's still a Mario game or it's still a Zelda game. You're still doing most of the same things in those games you were doing decades ago. Comparing them to Call of Duty is laughable because that's damn near a annual sports franchise type games and people really only care about the multiplayer.

Go back and look at the Sony first party lineup from the PS or PS2 days and see how many of those franchises Sony is still even making. Their developers have moved on to other ideas and other series. When Naughty Dog says we're done with Uncharted Sony has the good sense to say ok make something else then.

I'm not even suggesting that they should retire these franchises but what I am suggesting is the majority of what they make should be IPs created in the last 5-10 years not IPs created in the late 80s and early 90s and it's almost 2017.

Like what?

I'm sorry this is nonsense. The Wii U debuted with horrible marketing, overpriced with games that looked exactly like the wii version. People thought it was a controller add on and the name didn't help. Nobody was "bored" with the games, that's something you just made up. I certainly wasn't "bored" with any of the Wii U exclusives I've had and the critical reception agrees.

they rode that wave and the casuals didn't buy a Wii U because they were thinking it was the same thing and by them all of them moved onto other things.

You are flat out lying here. The Wii U was an HD console the Wii was sub HD. Early on people may have thought it was an add on but years into it everyone knew what it was and they still didn't buy it because they didn't care about it.

Go back and look at the PlayStation 3. It too had a rough start and Sony turned it around. By the end of the generation it approached sales of the best selling systems.

The only Nintendo home console in the company's history to outsell any of it's successors has been the Wii. Other than that if you look at Nintendo's sales of home consoles they sell less and less. they went from 62 million with the NES to 50 million with the SNES to 33 million with the N64 to 22 million with the GameCube and the Wii U sold about 13-14 million. The Wii selling over 100 million was the exception to the rule and it was a fluke due to a gimmick. Nintendo has been headed in this direction since 1991. The Wii U's poor sales aren't surprising at all considering Nintendo has been on that trajectory almost their entire history.

The PlayStation 2 outsold the PlayStation and sure the PlayStation 3 didn't outsell the 2 but Sony is on a good path with the 4. The Xbox 360 outsold the Xbox and the Xbox One last we knew was on a decent pace to approach the 360. Why then do Nintendo's successor system sales mostly decline from the previous generation?

 

[Cladyclad]

No the fukk there isn't. nobody buys a fukking super Mario platformer anticipating the story. get the fukk outta here

da mofo don't even talk

That's the 1st time I ever heard that one

Playing Mario for story

 

[Fatboi1]

Most of those franchises are old as hell. Some of them are pretty much defunct. The newest of those listed in probably Pikmin and that's about 15 years old.


They tinker with the formula but at it's core it's still a Mario game or it's still a Zelda game. You're still doing most of the same things in those games you were doing decades ago. Comparing them to Call of Duty is laughable because that's damn near a annual sports franchise type games and people really only care about the multiplayer.

Go back and look at the Sony first party lineup from the PS or PS2 days and see how many of those franchises Sony is still even making. Their developers have moved on to other ideas and other series. When Naughty Dog says we're done with Uncharted Sony has the good sense to say ok make something else then.

I'm not even suggesting that they should retire these franchises but what I am suggesting is the majority of what they make should be IPs created in the last 5-10 years not IPs created in the late 80s and early 90s and it's almost 2017.


You are flat out lying here. The Wii U was an HD console the Wii was sub HD. Early on people may have thought it was an add on but years into it everyone knew what it was and they still didn't buy it because they didn't care about it.

Go back and look at the PlayStation 3. It too had a rough start and Sony turned it around. By the end of the generation it approached sales of the best selling systems.

The only Nintendo home console in the company's history to outsell any of it's successors has been the Wii. Other than that if you look at Nintendo's sales of home consoles they sell less and less. they went from 62 million with the NES to 50 million with the SNES to 33 million with the N64 to 22 million with the GameCube and the Wii U sold about 13-14 million. The Wii selling over 100 million was the exception to the rule and it was a fluke due to a gimmick. Nintendo has been headed in this direction since 1991. The Wii U's poor sales aren't surprising at all considering Nintendo has been on that trajectory almost their entire history.

The PlayStation 2 outsold the PlayStation and sure the PlayStation 3 didn't outsell the 2 but Sony is on a good path with the 4. The Xbox 360 outsold the Xbox and the Xbox One last we knew was on a decent pace to approach the 360. Why then do Nintendo's successor system sales mostly decline from the previous generation?

The majority of the Wiii install base were casuals who don't really play games but catch on to fads.

The faithful Nintendo fans bought the Wii U. The Wii U was expensive, it was going for like $349 even years after release and it took a while for it's games to start releasing. I didn't buy a wii u until 2014. Long software droughts, expensive gimmick and perception of low value did it in. It also had lousy marketing even after release. You say people knew what it was, no. A lot of people still thought it was some add on. I've heard people ask me when Nintendo is coming out with a new system as they thought the Wii U wasn't a new system.

Some folks just outright skipped it because they didn't want to buy a console that seemed to be on the brink of death. The NX rumors also didn't do it any favors once that came around.

It seems like you're insinuating that the Wii U didn't sell because no one wanted to buy Nintendo software. I'd say no one wanted to buy into the Wii U because they're already invested into PS4/XB1 or PC. Buying an expensive console for one/two games that doesn't even have third party support is a hard sell.

I think the NS will sell more than the Wii U. Anecodtal evidence but I'm seeing way more "Wow I'm buying this thing day one" reactions all over the net and some in real life. My brother hasn't cared about a nintendo console since the gamecube really said he thinks it's dope and he's buying it. If this thing is less than $300 it'll be a winner. $250 a good price. $200 and it's flying off shelves.