NFLPA files Cullision Lawsuit

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Boys and skins strike again :russ:


It's over for Goodell. The question is who's going to jail for breaking federal law :smugdraper:


This opens the door for the skins and boys to slam them in d
Federal court cuz its already out their and no one can dispute the clear act of Cullision


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During the 2010 season, there was no salary cap. But most NFL teams operated as if there were a salary cap, and two teams that didn’t — the Redskins and Cowboys — have since been penalized by the league.

That smells like collusion among the owners, and now the NFL Players Association is filing a lawsuit alleging just that.

The NFLPA’s suit says the owners conspired to have a secret salary cap of $123 million for the 2010 season, which was supposed to be the uncapped year.

“When the rules are broken in a way that hurts the game, we have an obligation to act. We cannot standby when we now know that the owners conspired to collude,” NFLPA Executive Director DeMaurice Smith said.

The NFL says the lawsuit, which is being filed in the court of Judge David Doty, is prohibited by the current Collective Bargaining Agreement — the owners’ argument is that when the union accepted the current deal last year, the players were waiving their right to file this kind of lawsuit.

“The filing of these claims is prohibited by the Collective Bargaining Agreement and separately, by an agreement signed by the players’ attorneys last August,” the NFL said in a statement. “The claims have absolutely no merit and we fully expect them to be dismissed. On multiple occasions, the players and their representatives specifically dismissed all claims, known or unknown, whether pending or not.”

News of the lawsuit comes one day after the Redskins and Cowboys failed in their appeal of their combined $46 million in salary cap penalties for their actions during the uncapped year. What’s surprising is that when the NFL announced that punishment for the Redskins and Cowboys — which also included raising the salary caps of 28 of the other 30 teams — the union signed off on it. Now the union says what the owners did during the uncapped year was illegal.
 

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For the second time in 17 months, the Players Association has filed a collusion claim against the NFL, alleging that owners sought to suppress wages in 2010 when there was no salary cap.

The union is basing its case, in part, on recent legal briefs and testimony from the arbitration hearing involving the Cowboys and Redskins, who unsuccessfully sought to reverse league sanctions that stripped them of $46 million in salary cap over the next two seasons.

The league claimed the teams sought an unfair competitive advantage by spiking salaries in the uncapped year to gain financial flexibility in future seasons, when the salary cap was expected to be reinstated as part of a new collective bargaining agreement.

Several media outlets reported that the league's 32 teams were told in advance not to overload contracts in 2010. The union is arguing that the admonition was a form of collusion and now is seeking damages that could approach $1 billion if trebled.

"When the rules are broken in a way that hurts the game, we have an obligation to act. We cannot standby when we now know that the owners conspired to collude," said DeMaurice Smith, NFLPA Executive Director.

The league responded to the news by saying, "The filing of these claims is prohibited by the Collective Bargaining Agreement and separately by an agreement signed by the players' attorneys last August. The claims have absolutely no merit and we fully expect them to be dismissed. On multiple occasions, the players and their representatives specifically dismissed all claims, known or unknown, whether pending or not, regarding alleged violations of the 2006 CBA and the related settlement agreement. We continue to look forward to focusing on the future of the game rather than grievances of a prior era that have already been resolved."

An interesting side note: The claim was filed Wednesday morning in Minneapolis, where it will be heard by Judge David Doty, a longtime thorn in the league's side. Most recently Doty last spring reversed a ruling that would have granted the owners access to $4 billion in television revenues during the lockout.

That matter was ultimately resolved as part of the "global settlement" to finalize the new collective bargaining agreement. The initial collusion case was included in the settlement, but the union believes the penalties against the Cowboys and Redskins gave them grounds for filing a new claim because it didn't learn of the league's "secret" attempt to control spending until after the sides agreed on the new CBA.

The Players Association is claiming the league violated terms of the Stipulation and Settlement Agreement that was the backbone of the previous CBA by "imposing a secret $123 million per club salary cap" for the uncapped season. It further alleges that 28 teams abided by the "secret salary cap," and the four who didn't were disciplined this offseason. The Redskins and Cowboys were stripped of cap space, and the Saints and Raiders were prevented from receiving the extra cap dollars that were taken from Washington and Dallas and redistributed to the rest of the league.

"I thought the penalties imposed were proper ...," Giants owner John Mara said after the Redskins and Cowboys were disciplined. "What they did was in violation of the spirit of the salary cap. They attempted to take advantage of a one-year loophole and, quite frankly, I think they're lucky they didn't lose draft picks."

The Redskins made significant adjustments to the contracts of defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth and cornerback DeAngelo Hall, thereby creating cap flexibility in 2011 and beyond; and the Cowboys signed wideout Miles Austin to a six-year extension that included a staggering $17 million salary in 2010, freeing up cap space in future seasons.

Washington and Dallas argued that they violated no rules and, therefore, should not have been punished. The league said there was no cap violation, but said the teams sought to gain a competitive advantage.

The case ultimately could come down to an interpretation of language in both the previous and current collective bargaining agreements. The earlier version said the league is released from any "pending" claims; the union is arguing that this is a new claim based on a violation of the stipulation and settlement agreement.

The league, conversely, is expected to rely on language in the new CBA that releases the NFL from liability for "any pending claims and any claims known and unknown." That language seems to strongly support the NFL.

The case is yet another example of the frosty relationship between the league and union. Since finalizing the new CBA in August, the sides have battled over HGH testing, the Saints bounty scandal, mandatory equipment changes, and, now, collusion claims.

Read more: NFL Players Association files collusion claim against league - Jim Trotter - SI.com


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NFL responds to the NFLPA claim, sayingCBA prohibits it: "The claims have absolutely no merit and we fully expect them to be dismissed."
 

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Before I reply to the topic. Are you drunk? There's a lot of spelling errors going on in your post.

On topic: They're just throwing random lawsuits just to throw them. Collusion is one of the hardest things to prove outside of perjury so unless one of the owners fesses up to it then there's no way they're going to win. I guess the Cowboys/Redskins situation can say imply there's collusion, but not really.
 

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Let me tell y'all a secret. Skins and boys have been in close contact with De Smith during this whole process


Now ask yourself this. Did they bow out knowing this was coming less then 24 hours later? We all say yes
 

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If DeMaurice Smith signed off on the Cowboys/Skins punishment so the NFLPA could file a collusion claim, then it's actually pretty crafty on his part.
 

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I doubt the Redskins and Cowboys had anything to do with the NFLPA doing this as they would be punished too.

But hell yeah, this was collusion at its most blatant level.
 

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I doubt the Redskins and Cowboys had anything to do with the NFLPA doing this as they would be punished too.

But hell yeah, this was collusion at its most blatant level.

How would the skins and boys be punished when they were not apart of it? :snoop:


Guess who told them there was a secret cap at 123 million?


Skins and boys in close contact with NFLPA during the whole mess
 

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How would the skins and boys be punished when they were not apart of it? :snoop:


Guess who told them there was a secret cap at 123 million?


Skins and boys in close contact with NFLPA during the whole mess

you are an idiot :russ:


You realize the Redskins and the Cowboys are apart of the NFL and are being sued apart of this? The NFL is legally one company with 32 different subsidiaries.

Who told them there was a secret cap at 123 million? Um, Smith signed off on when the league resumed operations last year and its been in the media the last 2 months. Whatever damages a court decides in this case will not give the Redskins and Cowboys back their cap space. This has nothing to do with cap space now. Seriously :stopitslime:
 

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you are an idiot :russ:


You realize the Redskins and the Cowboys are apart of the NFL and are being sued apart of this? The NFL is legally one company with 32 different subsidiaries.

Who told them there was a secret cap at 123 million? Um, Smith signed off on when the league resumed operations last year and its been in the media the last 2 months. Whatever damages a court decides in this case will not give the Redskins and Cowboys back their cap space. This has nothing to do with cap space now. Seriously :stopitslime:

Come on MasterSlow

NFLPA is ALSO fighting for the two teams that spend there money to get the cap back as well saying they didn't know it was to punishes any team when they signed off on it. Did you at least read the lawsuit? Wise up
 
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On topic: They're just throwing random lawsuits just to throw them. Collusion is one of the hardest things to prove outside of perjury so unless one of the owners fesses up to it then there's no way they're going to win. I guess the Cowboys/Redskins situation can say imply there's collusion, but not really.

"I thought the penalties imposed were proper ...," Giants owner John Mara said after the Redskins and Cowboys were disciplined. "What they did was in violation of the spirit of the salary cap. They attempted to take advantage of a one-year loophole and, quite frankly, I think they're lucky they didn't lose draft picks."


How is that not collision? I mean, if they didn't collude to enforce a cap that was not agreed to in collective bargaining, then why were they punished? The only argument, as I see it, would be that they were improperly punished, but then Mara's comments (and think Goodell has some damning comments as well) suggest otherwise.
 

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Come on MasterSlow

NFLPA is ALSO fighting for the two teams that spend there money to get the cap back as well saying they didn't know it was to punishes any team when they signed off on it. Did you at least read the lawsuit? Wise up

the NFLPA are suing for damages, not for the Redskins and Cowboys to get cap space again. They are fighting for the players, not the teams :laff:
 
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