NFL Week 12: What Have We Learned??!

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

Someone show me the list of QBs who have won Super Bowls with a shytty o-line and a shytty WR/TE grouping or back in the day a shytty run game

Mahomes WR corps this year has been ASS so he's been forced into playing differently and his numbers haven't been great.

Is Mahomes all of a sudden a 'bad QB' now or does he need a little help from his WR group? How many balls did they drop on Monday night?

 

[mikishere]

watching you bozos cry because rival fanbases and even the general public isnt singing the cowboys praises for whopping on subpar teams is hilarious

Hurts hasn't played like the better QB THIS YEAR, that's the point. Purdy is no less of an MVP than Hurts THIS YEAR. Youre trying to speak Hurts MVP campaign into existence.

For the record I don't think a QB should even win it this year.

he doesn't have to speak hurts mvp campaign into existence. the betting public and oddsmakers are doing it for him

 

[darealvelle]

One thing me and @darealvelle will agree on is don’t you dare put Dak & Purdy in the same sentence breh


And if you do…..

Purdy gets top billing, it’s Purdy and Dak

Dak is better than Purdy. Purdy would be ass in dallas.

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

Dak is better than Purdy. Purdy would be ass in dallas.

Why...

 

[KidJSoul]

Why...

People be saying anything about Purdy... crazy people can't accept he's pretty darn good.

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

People be saying anything about Purdy... crazy people can't accept he's pretty darn good.

I posted a dot he threw last night. He's been throwing the ball well ever since he got the job. It hasn't been just "game managing" he's been accurate and taking risks while being accurate.

I wouldn't say he's elite but he's been good. He's also only 23.

 

[darealvelle]

Why...

Your offensive coaching at San Fran is way better than it is in Dallas. Matter of fact your coaching is better on both sides of the ball.

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

Your offensive coaching at San Fran is way better than it is in Dallas. Matter of fact your coaching is better on both sides of the ball.

Shanny is a good offensive mind but he's not a miracle worker either. Jimmy G had like 5 wins in the playoffs while throwing 3 TDs and 6 INTs or some shyt like that...

They won games where Jimmy contributed nothing.

 

[Braman]

Stupid ass talking point

Lamar and Jalen better qbs than purdy and they both played and won bigger games

But I forgot it don’t count cause they didn’t throw for 500 yards and 6 tds

Like I said u have nothing but stupid ass talking points

You cant possibly think this wont blow up in your face

How you practice is how you play. In this case the 'practice' is how you play vs teams you supposed to beat. The ravens are making a mistake relying on the run simply bc they can. They have not established a legit pass game

And part of that is already rearing it's head (or will) bc now Andrews is out. Had 8,9 weeks to establish a rythm and explosiveness with their WRs. Have they? No.

How are the 49ers and Cowboys equally/more dominant defenses as bmore yet they pass a shyt ton more than bmore. You think San Fran couldnt just pound CMC and Elijah,and Cowboys couldn't just pound pollard and dowdel pause and just coast? They out there playing against air, playing irregardless of score, fine-tuning shyt

But don't worry I'll be quoting this stupid ass talking point and @'ing your dumb ass in a few weeks

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

The discussion on here has been ass anyway. During Purdy's win streak people said it was his teammates and then some people flipped and started calling him elite.

Then they lost a couple games and it was "I told you so..."

Now he's winning again. Watch the next game they lose it'll be back to "I told you so.."

 

[Alvin]

This is an incredibly bold take

yeah I get that's what most people have but Dak is the underdog which is why I included the cowboys.

 

[thashiek]

Too many posts to quote, so i'll just post a general line that MVP voters would look at.

Dakota has 1 more total touchdown and 240 more total yards, while playing in one extra game than Jalen. He has a 70% to 68.5% completion edge. A 12 to 6 turnover edge. And a massive edge over raw dogging sub .500 teams.

Purdy has 3 less total touchdowns and 150 more total yards, while playing in one extra game than Jalen. He has a 70.2% completion edge. A 12 to 8 turnover edge. He actually beats good teams.

So if the season were to end today, even with both players having an extra game, Jalen would still be favored over them. Not only does Jalen have more wins against better competition, he has the best record in the league while having almost identical stats in one fewer game. Easy maths.

 

[calh45]

People be saying anything about Purdy... crazy people can't accept he's pretty darn good.

The problem is the hyperbole on both sides. Folks who think he's good in the media can't just say he's good they gotta say he's Brady or Montana aka the GOAT QB and #2 on the GOAT QB list. Last week Sherman said he should be the face of the league along with Pat.

The people who don't think he's on that level of player are going nuts in the opposite direction trying to detract from his play. If he plays a better defense and ain't dealing like he did against Tampa and Seattle they're going to come out the shadows and call him overrated and a product of the talent around him.

I don't think anyone would fight the idea of him being a top 10 QB right now, but putting him on the pedestal of all timers is a bit much just like saying he's only good because of the surrounding talent/circumstances.

 

[Ain't That Something]

2 things can be true.

Purdy is legit and an MVP candidate
and the 9ners are loaded

 

[b. woods]

The problem is the hyperbole on both sides. Folks who think he's good in the media can't just say he's good they gotta say he's Brady or Montana aka the GOAT QB and #2 on the GOAT QB list. Last week Sherman said he should be the face of the league along with Pat.

The people who don't think he's on that level of player are going nuts in the opposite direction trying to detract from his play. If he plays a better defense and ain't dealing like he did against Tampa and Seattle they're going to come out the shadows and call him overrated and a product of the talent around him.

I don't think anyone would fight the idea of him being a top 10 QB right now, but putting him on the pedestal of all timers is a bit much just like saying he's only good because of the surrounding talent/circumstances.

@Bryan Danielson