New Admiral Crumple - Catharsis - Toronto anthem chorus, anti-escort, anti-coke dealer, lots of gun shot noises, grimy piano beat, Nas shout out!

[summwunn]

I look to the hip hop greats like Doug E Fresh, Slick Rick, Kane, G Rap, Redman, RZA, Eminem, Cage, Necro. I learn from them.

Please let us know a Necro or Cage track that you think is more "preserving the culture" than this one . .

 

[Crumple]

Please let us know a Necro or Cage track that you think is more "preserving the culture" than this one . .

Thank you for putting me on to this track, never heard it. This sounds like true GFX whip music. Night Rider vibes.

I don't compare rappers, but this joint is dope.

 

[summwunn]

Thank you for putting me on to this track, never heard it. This sounds like true GFX whip music. Night Rider vibes.

I don't compare rappers, but this joint is dope.

how do you feel about the lyrics to this . . . and how they apply to YOU as a VISITOR to "The Culture" ???

 

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how do you feel about the lyrics to this . . . and how they apply to YOU as a VISITOR to "The Culture" ???

I feel that song is incorrect and disrespectful to white people.

"She ain't with the pale face
'Cause y'all fukk at a snail's pace"

No Ice Cube, I fukk passionately.

"'Cause white bytches have no butt and no chest"

No Ice Cube you're wrong, I have over ten years of dating experience dating 4 fit "white girls" with nice, fit asses, and big breasts"

I like Old Ice Cube. But some of his tracks dissing white people are creep shyt.

 

[Crumple]

I think @$cam-U-Well_Jack$on rated this post a 0 because he's terrified of Cataphonic Productions and what we stand for - dark, hardcore and clever Hip Hop that inspires others to create since 2002.

 

[NormanConnors]

And thank you for the props on the beat homie.

I'm proud that I can make dope sample free beats like a true musician rather than only flip samples.

I started making beats tweeking and playing with samples....then used full on sample segments.

I always programmed my drums. But Nightmare Fuel I used alot of breakbeats.

Which was still very difficult.

I sorted through over 200 breakbeats I found and kept.

Then when I "lived" with them I distilled the best 20 out of the 200.

Not all breakbeats from soul, funk records were dope. And some are just perfection.

This beat I played the piano and made up the melody.

A similar 100% original track using a Moog keyboard was my track called "Drugs" people love it and it's 100% original.

Check it here.



It makes me happy when deep thinking hip hop fans like yourself appreciate my beats. It's one of the things that makes me happiest in life.

Better than actually blood family that don't appreciate me. Some do, but people who appreciate my creativity. That's love man. Thank you.

I know what you mean/are getting at, BUT I disagree with flipping samples not being included with true musicianship. Manipulating a sample can be like playing an instrument itself. Especially if you can create something totally different out of it

 

[Crumple]

I know what you mean/are getting at, BUT I disagree with flipping samples not being included with true musicianship. Manipulating a sample can be like playing an instrument itself. Especially if you can create something totally different out of it

I totally agree with you. Early here or elsewhere I wrote that I have 2 ways I produce - creating the melodies, or flipping a sample.

There's levels to those - working on a sample till unrecognizable, programming drums, using break beats, using different parts of drum kits etc

I flipped this sample way different than more popular producers did.

 

[summwunn]

I feel that song is incorrect and disrespectful to white people.

"She ain't with the pale face
'Cause y'all fukk at a snail's pace"

No Ice Cube, I fukk passionately.

"'Cause white bytches have no butt and no chest"

No Ice Cube you're wrong, I have over ten years of dating experience dating 4 fit "white girls" with nice, fit asses, and big breasts"

I like Old Ice Cube. But some of his tracks dissing white people are creep shyt.

HOW BOUT THIS ONE ?

 

[Art Barr]

I feel that song is incorrect and disrespectful to white people.

"She ain't with the pale face
'Cause y'all fukk at a snail's pace"

No Ice Cube, I fukk passionately.

"'Cause white bytches have no butt and no chest"

No Ice Cube you're wrong, I have over ten years of dating experience dating 4 fit "white girls" with nice, fit asses, and big breasts"

I like Old Ice Cube. But some of his tracks dissing white people are creep shyt.

Crumple.

Stfu breh.

Just because you online.

Don't mean we have to be prisoner to this.

Pay attention to your audience.

We are black.


Again we are black.

Unless you offering up some insight to white people and why they act thia way in america. With you being Canadian will never happen.

Change the subject and never say this shyt again.

You in hiphop. Which means you are a guest to black people.

American black people.

Stop the bullshyt. You ain't been disparage at all. Anything you did you did to yourself and you are white and can wake up and change your life when ever you so choose. Use that luxury to stfu, please.

You already a heavy violation.

This is where we stop letting you grt away with bullshyt.


Black issues or issues dealing with black power. Stfu.

Never again.

Open ya mouth on the topic.
Yo ass is white dog.
Amoung black people. Get it together or get ousted.
@Walt already chimed in.
Did you not get the hint.

Your white privilege does not get to critique songs about black nationalism. We never wanna see you speak on that again here. Or you being a cluck. You been given a pass. Now you trying to try us and we do not play like that.
You would not do that to the Somalian whee you from. Do not come online in a black American domestic forum and try the shyt online.


Art Barr

 

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HOW BOUT THIS ONE ?

The beats cool. The content is attacking famous white people. Larry Bird caught a stray - why? I have no idea he was always cool - but the lyrics flip it to an opinion rather than a diss.

It doesn't matter if another race focused on dissing any other race like Lunch Mob did.

Look at the result - they aren't Jay Z, G Rap etc.

They're discography isn't prolific.

They were dope, but I never checked for them and dissing white people doesn't make them likeable for the masses.

I respect the open speech and freedom of expression.

But remember they were one race trying to bully another race. Innocent people caught strays and they didn't endure as far as history goes.

 

[Crumple]

Crumple.

Stfu breh.

Just because you online.

Don't mean we have to be prisoner to this.

Pay attention to your audience.

We are black.


Again we are black.

Unless you offering up some insight to white people and why they act thia way in america. With you being Canadian will never happen.

Change the subject and never say this shyt again.

You in hiphop. Which means you are a guest to black people.

American black people.

Stop the bullshyt. You ain't been disparage at all. Anything you did you did to yourself and you are white and can wake up and change your life when ever you so choose. Use that luxury to stfu, please.

You already a heavy violation.

This is where we stop letting you grt away with bullshyt.


Black issues or issues dealing with black power. Stfu.

Never again.

Open ya mouth on the topic.
Yo ass is white dog.
Amoung black people. Get it together or get ousted.
@Walt already chimed in.
Did you not get the hint.

Your white privilege does not get to critique songs about black nationalism. We never wanna see you speak on that again here. Or you being a cluck. You been given a pass. Now you trying to try us and we do not play like that.
You would not do that to the Somalian whee you from. Do not come online in a black American domestic forum and try the shyt online.


Art Barr

Wow, @Art Barr tells me to stfu. That hurts. I never dissed you here.

I know my audience and part of them are black. I have black associates and friends that are long term friends of mine.

Why white people act like they do in America? You're right - I can't tell you that but I can tell you my experience in Toronto.

First off I recognize that black people created hip hop. I also recognize that Latinos and white people contributed in terms of samples, business and being emcees and producers later on. Also at the beginning but they did not create hip hop.

Why white people gravitated to black music in Canada? Because black music is naturally cool, and has swag and style.

I also grew up to hardcore punk - D.R.I, Sex Pistols etc and Heavy Metal - Metallica, Megadeth. And Classic Rock - Queen Led Zepplin.

The metal and punk may be primarily white forms of music - and it's also dope. I like dope music in general.

I wore a black bucket hat in 1993 and white kids bullied me and said "You're trying to be black" and called me Slick Rick in 1992. I've been called a wigger but I wote damage clothing, black Fila shoes, white overall shorts with a big orange basketball logo on the left leg.

But I didn't grow dreads or go deeper into acting black. I was heavy into skateboarding and punk and hip hop is what I learned.

Also I was raised by a single mother and a strict Dad I saw on weekends and later lived with when I was 11. Raised in buildings - not housing but my area and buildings had housing mixed.

My family was both good and challenging - but I'm not like some white kid who grew up in houses, well off and fronted.

Those are all facts - and I'm keeping other things private cause I don't want people to know everything about me. But people do not knowmy full story here at all.

I had and have black friends - but that now is something you can't prove where you're not a racist on Coli - which I disagree with because it involves trust and mutual respect.

I protected fellow black friends on the streets.


At work a few years ago these Mexican contractors called my fellow employee a N word. My guy was so angry, I was angry. I asked him if he wanted to catch them later and fukk them up out of anger - but calmed down.

My friend was angry and hurt. So much so he asked if I could walk with him around our building several times so he could calm down, and I did.
And I listened to him and I was angry and hurt. I wanted to get back. He trusted me and confided in me and I had his back 100%. He thanked me for hearing him out and it was no problem for me.

To think that I who was heavily influenced by black art and am a racist like some ignorant people claim here is backwards. They don't know me at all, and it's weird as hell.

I always respected black music, culture and art.

Hip Hop saved my life. Some albums and their content put me in the right direction. You have to understand that Hip Hop makes me happy at a deep level - and I acknowledge that it's a black artform.

Sometimes I look at it when black people call out white people - they are calling out a certain type of white people - not the ones who grew up poor and were respectable.

To think that I am for white corporate racism at the top is crazy. I think that's a form of major evil.

And I saw the power of hip hop to push through all of that and create artists and men like Jay Z and Kanye - the Kanye who succeeded with Yeezy - I'm not talking his support for Trump I don't care for that.

Bottomline is that Hip Hop culture gave me my passion for life and it's black culture. I recognize that and I appreciate that. I always have.

I understood what you said - I hope you can hear my perspective as well.

 

[Art Barr]

Wow, @Art Barr tells me to stfu. That hurts. I never dissed you here.

I know my audience and part of them are black. I have black associates and friends that are long term friends of mine.

Why white people act like they do in America? You're right - I can't tell you that but I can tell you my experience in Toronto.

First off I recognize that black people created hip hop. I also recognize that Latinos and white people contributed in terms of samples, business and being emcees and producers later on. Also at the beginning but they did not create hip hop.

Why white people gravitated to black music in Canada? Because black music is naturally cool, and has swag and style.

I also grew up to hardcore punk - D.R.I, Sex Pistols etc and Heavy Metal - Metallica, Megadeth. And Classic Rock - Queen Led Zepplin.

The metal and punk may be primarily white forms of music - and it's also dope. I like dope music in general.

I wore a black bucket hat in 1993 and white kids bullied me and said "You're trying to be black" and called me Slick Rick in 1992. I've been called a wigger but I wote damage clothing, black Fila shoes, white overall shorts with a big orange basketball logo on the left leg.

But I didn't grow dreads or go deeper into acting black. I was heavy into skateboarding and punk and hip hop is what I learned.

Also I was raised by a single mother and a strict Dad I saw on weekends and later lived with when I was 11. Raised in buildings - not housing but my area and buildings had housing mixed.

My family was both good and challenging - but I'm not like some white kid who grew up in houses, well off and fronted.

Those are all facts - and I'm keeping other things private cause I don't want people to know everything about me. But people do not knowmy full story here at all.

I had and have black friends - but that now is something you can't prove where you're not a racist on Coli - which I disagree with because it involves trust and mutual respect.

I protected fellow black friends on the streets.


At work a few years ago these Mexican contractors called my fellow employee a N word. My guy was so angry, I was angry. I asked him if he wanted to catch them later and fukk them up out of anger - but calmed down.

My friend was angry and hurt. So much so he asked if I could walk with him around our building several times so he could calm down, and I did.
And I listened to him and I was angry and hurt. I wanted to get back. He trusted me and confided in me and I had his back 100%. He thanked me for hearing him out and it was no problem for me.

To think that I who was heavily influenced by black art and am a racist like some ignorant people claim here is backwards. They don't know me at all, and it's weird as hell.

I always respected black music, culture and art.

Hip Hop saved my life. Some albums and their content put me in the right direction. You have to understand that Hip Hop makes me happy at a deep level - and I acknowledge that it's a black artform.

Sometimes I look at it when black people call out white people - they are calling out a certain type of white people - not the ones who grew up poor and were respectable.

To think that I am for white corporate racism at the top is crazy. I think that's a form of major evil.

And I saw the power of hip hop to push through all of that and create artists and men like Jay Z and Kanye - the Kanye who succeeded with Yeezy - I'm not talking his support for Trump I don't care for that.

Bottomline is that Hip Hop culture gave me my passion for life and it's black culture. I recognize that and I appreciate that. I always have.

I understood what you said - I hope you can hear my perspective as well.

If you are into hiphop. Gain some knowledge of self and in that. Never critique black nationalism content.

That is not your place at all.



Art Barr

 

[Sonic Boom of the South]

STAY UP !!!
HIP-HOP RULES FOREVER BRO !!!!

Dude a meth head paying sex workers to pose in his wack ass videos.

 

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Dude a meth head paying sex workers to pose in his wack ass videos.

Wrong on both points. I never fukked with meth either.

I don't care if a person who has never made a music video tries to diss mine.

I've made alot. Showing historical Toronto graffiti since 2002 and I have over 500,000 views on Worldstar and YouTube combined.

Crumple - Laughing in Toronto - 2006 rap!



I was laughing in 2006 as I'm laughing in 2025, ha ha.

@Sonic Boom of the South I edited this with my 2006 video update.

 

[Crumple]

If you are into hiphop. Gain some knowledge of self and in that. Never critique black nationalism content.

That is not your place at all.



Art Barr

I respect that.

Knowledge of self - I read the Old and New testaments, Quran, Bhagavad Gita and Dhammapada. Plus many other books, all back to back. I'm learning.

This is my talkvid on the Bible