Neoconservatives may finally get their war with Iran, from Donald Trump

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Lets just hand the house of Saud unilateral control over the middle east.
I mean, if you could do this with a magic wand, Saud would probably assassinate Wahhab and then rapidly diversify their investments and generate peace and prosperity throughout the region.
 
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:jbhmm: Neocons love War, Liberal Warhawks love war...2 wings of the same bird.
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Iran has been preparing for the coming war. They can defend themselves. This won’t be Iraq.

The diplomatic and economic avenues have been closed by the P5+1 Nuclear Deal, and the US will never again get UN authority to do anything.

This only leaves an illegitimate solo strike against Iran probably with Israel.

If they do this crazy action, there will be no limits, no such thing as a limited air campaign.

If you hit Iranian sites, you will lose Iraq. Afghanistan's government also equally depends on Iran as much as the US and they can pull the plug of support. $6 trillion on both of those projects since 2001 and you lose both due to a war with Iran. :mjlol:

You will have daily missile strikes on Bahrain's US bases and the temptation to put boots on the ground to "defend allies" will be irresistible.

You'd piss off countries like India, Turkey, and South Korea who are US allies benefiting from Iranian trade and energy. You'd effectively destroy or damage parts of their economies.

If you are stupid enough to start a war with Iran you are stupid enough to invade and the US doesn't even have half the manpower necessary and it would cost trillions.

In short, it ain’t happening. What the US will try to do is stay in Syria without a Congressional or UN mandate long after ISIS is gone. They will attempt to give Iran a bloody nose there but the risk is US soldiers dying in Syria

Yup. A war with Iran is a war waith Russia and possibly other countries as well. shyt will be suicide. Tell them Zionist fukks to fight their own shyt as Iran is nothing to fukk with.
 

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Iran will have US cities on fire. Their covert game is on par with Russia.
Uh nah they won't. They do not have the capabilities to hit the US. You should say Saudi, Kuwaiti, Jordanian cities will be on fire. And US military bases will be on fire.
Iran has been preparing for the coming war. They can defend themselves. This won’t be Iraq.

The diplomatic and economic avenues have been closed by the P5+1 Nuclear Deal, and the US will never again get UN authority to do anything.

This only leaves an illegitimate solo strike against Iran probably with Israel.

If they do this crazy action, there will be no limits, no such thing as a limited air campaign.

If you hit Iranian sites, you will lose Iraq. Afghanistan's government also equally depends on Iran as much as the US and they can pull the plug of support. $6 trillion on both of those projects since 2001 and you lose both due to a war with Iran. :mjlol:

You will have daily missile strikes on Bahrain's US bases and the temptation to put boots on the ground to "defend allies" will be irresistible.

You'd piss off countries like India, Turkey, and South Korea who are US allies benefiting from Iranian trade and energy. You'd effectively destroy or damage parts of their economies.

If you are stupid enough to start a war with Iran you are stupid enough to invade and the US doesn't even have half the manpower necessary and it would cost trillions.

In short, it ain’t happening. What the US will try to do is stay in Syria without a Congressional or UN mandate long after ISIS is gone. They will attempt to give Iran a bloody nose there but the risk is US soldiers dying in Syria
The window for with Iran is closed. 10 years ago it was a bad idea to go to war with Iran. Let alone today. War with Iran will be unlike anything the US has ever faced because it will test the limitation of American naval and aerial power. Plus Iran has the deadly S-300 missiles which will make any air campgin even harder.

It won't be a conventional war. It will an asymmetrical war. The Iranian coast in the Persian Gulf is vast. Plus the coast is a labyrinth of small islands. Iran has thousands of anti ship missiles like C-802,Sunburn, Yakhont. Plus Iranian versions of those missiles which they successfully built. Their speedboats are also equipped with those missiles. They will use guerilla tactics. That means fire missiles and flee to the labyrinth of rocky island.

Plus the coast is very narrow. The anti ship missiles are very fast on their own. With a much narrow coast the Aegis systems will detect the missile only second before impact. That means the ship will have no time to for counter measures. Not to mention Iran will set mines. And on top of that Iran would fire salvos of ballistic missiles along with dangerous anti ship missiles to overwhelm American ships defenses.

Not only that,they will fire hundreds of ballistic missiles to Saudi oil infrastructure and activate their Shia proxies in the eastern province to start an armed insurrection. Saudi and Gulf nations depend on in water desalination plants. Iran could take those out and those nations descend into chaos. Iraqi Shia militias would target US troops with anti tank and aircraft missiles.
Also them getting the S -300 makes an air campaign over Iran so much harder. Iran's use of S-300 isn't to defeat the US air force. The US will simply use cruise missiles and stealth bombers to take them out. However, the fact that the US will have to destroy the S-300's before sending in conventional air force means that Iran buys time to use its military to retaliate against US interests. Without S-300 much of Iran's offensive abilities wouldn't last past the second or third wave. With the S-300 the first and second wave attacks will be against the air defense and not the offensive abilities. That is to say, it will protect Iran's deterrence ability and increase the cost of a war. So basically the USAF will looking to take out these deadly mobile weapons first. That means Iranian ballistics missiles and anti ship missiles will not be targeted.

Not to mention the economic fukk up it would be. Oil prices would spike to the point we plunge into a recession maybe even a depression. War would not play into our strengths. Iran would simply spread the war to overstretch the US. In the end it isn't worth it. This isn't Saddam 1991 or 2003. It would be a bloody bath.
 

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I'm not convinced Trump will take us to war with Iran. If he does, that doesn't mean Hillary would not have. So this is not a reason to put her in office.

I'm opposed to war with Iran, and it's good to have company now that the antiwar left is waking up after sleeping through the Obama years.
 

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I'm not convinced Trump will take us to war with Iran. If he does, that doesn't mean Hillary would not have. So this is not a reason to put her in office.

I'm opposed to war with Iran, and it's good to have company now that the antiwar left is waking up after sleeping through the Obama years.
Hillary was not going to take us to war with Iran. She would have continued Obama's strategy with Iran. Which was maintain the Iran nuclear deal. Trump scrapped the deal while diplomatically isolating the US which is Iran's greatest dream. Second he has filled his cabinet with anti Iran hawks (Pompeo, Matthis,Kelly,Haley,Mcmaster, and soon Senator Cotton.) He has close ties with Sheldon Adelson who wants Iran to be nuked. The chance for war with Iran is very very high especially now with ISIS defeated.
 

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Hillary was not going to take us to war with Iran. She would have continued Obama's strategy with Iran. Which was maintain the Iran nuclear deal. Trump scrapped the deal while diplomatically isolating the US which is Iran's greatest dream. Second he has filled his cabinet with anti Iran hawks (Pompeo, Matthis,Kelly,Haley,Mcmaster, and soon Senator Cotton.) He has close ties with Sheldon Adelson who wants Iran to be nuked. The chance for war with Iran is very very high especially now with ISIS defeated.

Good point about Hill and Iran. It's the middle East, North African countries and Russia that probably had to worry about her. But all of this is speculative.

What's real is Trump. If, God forbid, he takes us to war with Iran I'll be the biggest opponent.
 

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:jbhmm: Neocons love War, Liberal Warhawks love war...2 wings of the same bird.
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Exactly. No matter who got in, you were going to get your eventual war with Iran. Barack already started two illegal wars. Why wouldn't Hillary get in on one? I fail to understand why people keep thinking that these politicians are doing your bidding. They're only agenda is to put on enough of a show to make you think you have a choice while they all take their orders from their masters on high.
 
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