Neil Degrasse Tyson Pounds the Table, Demands Future Now!

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Neil Tyson Pounds The Table, Demanding A Future, Now! : Krulwich Wonders... : NPR



eil deGrasse Tyson is stepping up his game, roaring, cajoling, stomping his big, considerable, eloquent self to say we have got to, got to, GOT TO, step off this planet and go places, back to the moon, on to Mars, that we can't afford not to, that if we don't, if we don't support a manned space program, we are robbing ourselves, we are stepping on "the foundations of tomorrow's economies," without which, "we might as well slide back to the cave, because that's where we're headed now, broke!":ehh:

He's serious. Crazy (as usual), passionate (always), smart (no doubt). Just listen to him in this montage, taken from his speeches, TV appearances, assembled by Evan Shurr, apparently to support more funding for NASA.
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I remember those days, when you could grow up in the "Skyview" apartments (as Neil did in the Bronx) and dream of being up there with Glenn and Aldrin and Armstrong, feel like you were living in an explorer's age, that you could ride with your heroes and cheer from the bleachers (your living room in front of the TV) as your nation tumbled into space. It was amazing. And like Neil, I want those days back.

The Question

But here's my question: Do we need NASA (or the Chinese, Russian, Japanese, European, Indian space agencies) to get there anymore? Neil seems to think we do. NASA's greatest, astronauts Neil Armstrong and Gene Cernan, went to Congress early in the Obama Administration to say that the new president is wrong to support (and direct NASA to support) private commercial efforts. Business folks won't do it safely, said Cernan. But businesses are doing it anyway. Just last week a commercially-built rocket (from Elon Musk's California company, SpaceX) traveled to the space station, docked, and delivered cargo — so NASA no longer has to rely on Russian rockets to make deliveries. It was a thrilling, entrepreneurial, bootstrap performance (with, yes, a $1.6 billion contract from NASA), but where were the cheers?

Hooray?

The geeks cheered. But the rest of us — not so much. OK, the ship was delivering clothes, food and equipment. There was no pilot, no crew, nothing to see, really, nobody up there to cheer for. And if SpaceX gets its way, it will soon become a tourist bus, carrying thousands, then tens of thousands of paying customers into orbit, so what they'd like to do is make the extraordinary a little more ordinary for average Earthlings.:leon:

The Challenge

But that's not my question for Neil. My question is: Who's going to lead us back to the Extraordinary? Back to uncharted dangerous, expensive places we've never been, places we dream of? Should that be the President, the Congress, should it be all of us pledging to do it together, or should it be self-nominated, can-do, sometimes obnoxious business people who can inspire a team, who live for the gamble, who think they can do it better?

I don't know. I'm not sure how Neil feels. Clearly he thinks we should be exploring. Clearly he thinks America should lead. But which America? All of us or some of us? That, I think, is going to become a very crucial question.

For a taste of the entrepreneurial, CBS correspondent Scott Pelley and "60 Minutes" just rebroadcast a profile of Elon Musk, founder of SpaceX. It's a gentle look at this man who, after making money on the Internet, formed an electric car company, a solar energy company, and now builds rocket ships to carry people and cargo into space. Scott's profile doesn't dwell on Elon's spats, his rough side, but there's a scene where Scott asks Elon about Neil Armstrong and Gene Cernan, asks him what he thinks about their critique of private space exploration, and Elon goes very quiet. He tries to speak, stops, swallows. Pelley says, those guys are your heroes, right? And Elon says they are. So how do you feel when "they cast stones in your direction?" "It's ... " Elon's eyes get a little moist, and then, under his breath, he says one word ... "difficult." I watched this, and I thought, hmmm, apparently, even a hard-driving entrepreneur likes the thrill of a national effort, the blessing of a national hero, the sound of "we" instead of "me."

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:to: I gave up on this long time ago...

Society aint bout that life...


after: "Clubbing hard, fukking women, there ain't much to do"

It's hard for most people to justify spending billions in space, when hundredths of millions of people on earth are starving...
 

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the moment you put down your sword, the war is lost forever :comeon:

:to:

:aicmon: like I stated earlier, it's hard to justify the insurmountable cash flow required to R&D our understanding of the cosmos, when some many people are struggling make ends meet on earth.

Not to mention, they simply don't care...

In a utopic paradigm, i'd end world poverty, crime and increase jobs by having society focus on forward moving technology and concepts, but not everyone is bout that life...

 
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:aicmon: like I stated earlier, it's hard to justify the insurmountable cash flow required to R&D our understanding of the cosmos, when some many people are struggling make ends meet on earth.

Not to mention, they simply don't care...

In a utopic paradigm, i'd end world poverty, crime and increase jobs by having society focus on forward moving technology and concepts, but not everyone is bout that life...

:to: it is true, but the cost kinda leverages itself out when you look at what exactly NASA and the space race brought us.

NASA spin-off technologies - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

There is something about the reach for the stars that drives innovation, it seems. NASA served the purpose of driving a lot of great research :yeshrug:
 

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:to: it is true, but the cost kinda leverages itself out when you look at what exactly NASA and the space race brought us.

NASA spin-off technologies - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

There is something about the reach for the stars that drives innovation, it seems. NASA served the purpose of driving a lot of great research :yeshrug:

Yep society wants to have their cake and it :eat: too, but put nothing forward towards progressing the future. Heck funding for medicine and physical sciences should be insurmountable. People shouldn't have to put themselves in serve debt trying to enhance the overall quality and understanding of life. Preventing diseases should be encouraged, not capitalized on.


I see you though breh, with a degree in poli sci and bio... :lolbron:

The future needs any legislation you can bring forward...

I feel the lack of funding is more political and favoring of monopolies than anything. Which is scary. It's cole world out there :to:
 

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I love Tyson and that clip was moving and all, but I think space exploration would do better in private hands.
 

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I see you though breh, with a degree in poli sci and bio... :lolbron:

The future needs any legislation you can bring forward...

I feel the lack of funding is more political and favoring of monopolies than anything. Which is scary. It's cole world out there :to:
:smugbiden: i'm more interested in research stuff right now in life. If i can, I wouldn't mind doing a bunch of studies. I am interested in maybe bringing a political element into my career after, but right now im just focusing on saving money and building that resume. My shyt was in the paper recently :whoo: hopefully the study im working on gets results.
 

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I love Tyson and that clip was moving and all, but I think space exploration would do better in private hands.
how so? elaborate :beli:
:smugbiden: i'm more interested in research stuff right now in life. If i can, I wouldn't mind doing a bunch of studies. I am interested in maybe bringing a political element into my career after, but right now im just focusing on saving money and building that resume. My shyt was in the paper recently :whoo: hopefully the study im working on gets results.

:wow: best of luck.
 

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Looks clean, stimulants are always good for combating neurological problems. Is the use of cannabinoids a feasible option as well. :shaq:
naw, only public universities can do that sort of stuff on some self funded shyt. Drug companies don't exactly have a stake in seeing marijuana get presented as an alternative to their products

:heh:
 

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:shaq2: fukk that, Im going to bed
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naw, only public universities can do that sort of stuff on some self funded shyt. Drug companies don't exactly have a stake in seeing marijuana get presented as an alternative to their products

:heh:

:dead: man that's capitalism / politics again...

did you see this study:
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Smoking marijuana linked with higher risk of stroke in young adults, study finds | Fox News

I deaded it after reading this:
Of the 16 percent of stroke patients who were marijuana users, almost all of them smoked tobacco regularly.
 
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