Nearly every new Covid-19 death is now entirely preventable, CDC director says

[Ethnic Vagina Finder]

Anybody who got it after June last year, it was preventable. I lost friends and family and they were careless.

I worked all of last year and never got sick. I kept everyone I came in contact with close to the vest and my circle small.

Covid 19 is basically a hygiene virus. If you practice bad hygiene or be around people with bad hygiene, your chances of getting any virus increases drastically.

 

[thekingsmen]

Anybody who got it after June last year, it was preventable. I lost friends and family and they were careless.

I worked all of last year and never got sick. I kept everyone I came in contact with close to the vest and my circle small.

Covid 19 is basically a hygiene virus. If you practice bad hygiene or be around people with bad hygiene, your chances of getting any virus increases drastically.

If it's a hygiene virus, why didn't it affect the homeless population or wiped them out?

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

I constantly hear this shyt without people even specifying what they talking about.

What is the "flip flop" you see in this case?

Ehhh same CDC Director has said on more one occasion that vaccinated people can't catch or spread the virus, a lie even her own co-workers and agency have spoken up about.

So I don't necessarily blame people who are skeptical of the CDC says.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Ehhh same CDC Director has said on more one occasion that vaccinated people can't catch or spread the virus, a lie even her own co-workers and agency have spoken up about.

So I don't necessarily blame people who are skeptical of the CDC says.

She made a generalization that some people took the wrong way and the CDC immediately clarified. Her generalization was based on a study that produced the exact same results as all the other studies, showing that vaccination makes you FAR less likely to catch or spread the virus, not just preventing serious disease. People were claiming, "Vaccination doesn't prevent catching Covid or spreading the virus, it only prevents serious disease" and she pushed back on that and showed that vaccination also prevents catching and spreading the virus too. She should have specifically said, "prevents 90% of catching and spreading" rather than just generalizing, but that's the problem when people are disingenuous about how they receive information. Since the CDC clarified immediately there should be no need to claim the director was "lying", but certain people are more looking for a gotcha! moment then they are actually trying to understand the pandemic.

"Dr. Walensky spoke broadly during this interview," an agency spokesman told The New York Times on Thursday. "It's possible that some people who are fully vaccinated could get COVID-19. The evidence isn't clear whether they can spread the virus to others. We are continuing to evaluate the evidence."

Testing showed that the risk of infection went down by 90% two weeks or more after they received their second dose, and even just one dose was 80% effective after two weeks. Of the 2,479 people in the study who were fully vaccinated, just three contracted COVID-19, which is in line with the vaccine's efficacy. In comparison, the CDC also tracked 994 people who were not vaccinated, and 161 contracted COVID-19. No one in the study died.

That's from almost 3 months ago. It seems to be the same shyt that they're saying now except now they're more confident. So where is the flip-flop?

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Black and Hispanic Americans Suffer Most in Biggest US Decline in Life Expectancy Since WWII

U.S. life expectancy decreased by an 'alarming' amount during pandemic

Compared with white Americans, whose average life expectancy at birth dropped by about 1.4 years between 2018 and 2020, the average Hispanic American’s decreased by just under 3.9 years. The average lifespan of a Black American decreased by 3.25 years.

“These are numbers we aren’t at all used to seeing in this research; 0.1 years is something that normally gets attention in the field, so 3.9 years and 3.25 years and even 1.4 years is just horrible,” Woolf said. “We haven’t had a decrease of that magnitude since World War II.”

in 2019, just prior to the pandemic, life expectancy at birth in the U.S. increased by 0.1 years — about 1.5 months.

Life expectancy of Black and Brown folk in this country dropped by over 3 years and yet dumbasses want to claim that it only affects really old people.

 

[Child_Of_God]

Uh oh coli wont like this. they want covid to continue so they introverted assses can stay in the house all day

You clearly don’t know what an introvert really is.

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

She made a generalization that some people took the wrong way and the CDC immediately clarified. Her generalization was based on a study that produced the exact same results as all the other studies, showing that vaccination makes you FAR less likely to catch or spread the virus, not just preventing serious disease. People were claiming, "Vaccination doesn't prevent catching Covid or spreading the virus, it only prevents serious disease" and she pushed back on that and showed that vaccination also prevents catching and spreading the virus too. She should have specifically said, "prevents 90% of catching and spreading" rather than just generalizing, but that's the problem when people are disingenuous about how they receive information. Since the CDC clarified immediately there should be no need to claim the director was "lying", but certain people are more looking for a gotcha! moment then they are actually trying to understand the pandemic.

"Our data from the CDC today suggests that vaccinated people do not carry the virus, don't get sick, and that it's not just in the clinical trials, but it's also in real-world data."

Those were her exact words

It doesn't matter where her generalization came from, she made a statement that was a lie. A generalization can be considered as a lie regardless of the intentions. That statement even if it was a "generalization" would deceive people into believing that vaccinated people can't carry or spread the virus. Even if the CDC took it back, then it's still a lie as it's an untrue and false statement therefore a lie even if it wasn't intentional. We've called people liars in the past for made generalization statements that weren't in fact true, so don't try and use that excuse with her.

You seem like a smart guy, you what the definition of a lie is and all that it entails.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

NPR Cookie Consent and Choices

New Study Estimates More Than 900,000 People Have Died Of COVID-19 In U.S.

A new study estimates that the number of people who have died of COVID-19 in the U.S. is more than 900,000, a number 57% higher than official figures.

Worldwide, the study's authors say, the COVID-19 death count is nearing 7 million, more than double the reported number of 3.24 million.

The analysis comes from researchers at the University of Washington's Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation, who looked at excess mortality from March 2020 through May 3, 2021, compared it with what would be expected in a typical nonpandemic year, then adjusted those figures to account for a handful of other pandemic-related factors.

The final count only estimates deaths "caused directly by the SARS-CoV-2 virus," according to the study's authors. SARS-CoV-2 is the virus that causes COVID-19.

Researchers estimated dramatic undercounts in countries such as India, Mexico and Russia, where they said the official death counts are some 400,000 too low in each country. In some countries — including Japan, Egypt and several Central Asian nations — the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation's death toll estimate is more than 10 times higher than reported totals.


"The analysis just shows how challenging it has been during the pandemic to accurately track the deaths — and actually, transmission — of COVID. And by focusing in on the total COVID death rate, I think we bring to light just how much greater the impact of COVID has been already and may be in the future," said Dr. Christopher Murray, who heads the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation.

The group reached its estimates by calculating excess mortality based on a variety of sources, including official death statistics from various countries, as well as academic studies of other locations.

Then, it examined other mortality factors influenced by the pandemic. For example, some of the extra deaths were caused by increased opioid overdoses or deferred health care. On the other hand, the dramatic reduction in flu cases last winter and a modest drop in deaths caused by injury resulted in lower mortality in those categories than usual.

Researchers at UW ultimately concluded that the extra deaths not directly caused by COVID-19 were effectively offset by the other reductions in death rates, leaving them to attribute all of the net excess deaths to the coronavirus.

"When you put all that together, we conclude that the best way, the closest estimate, for the true COVID death is still excess mortality, because some of those things are on the positive side, other factors are on the negative side," Murray said.

Over 900,000 dead from this virus in the USA alone. About 20% of that total (180,000) were under 65. So for comparison, the # of people under 65 who died from this virus was greater than the combined total of ALL murders, suicides, car accidents, other injuries, and flu deaths in a typical year.

In 2017, about 171,000 Americans under 65 died of cancer and 128,000 died of heard disease. So Covid-19 likely supplanted both and was the LEADING cause of death last year for Americans under 65. But people still trying to stay ignorant and claim that it only kills old people.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

"Our data from the CDC today suggests that vaccinated people do not carry the virus, don't get sick, and that it's not just in the clinical trials, but it's also in real-world data."

Those were her exact words

It doesn't matter where her generalization came from, she made a statement that was a lie. A generalization can be considered as a lie regardless of the intentions. That statement even if it was a "generalization" would deceive people into believing that vaccinated people can't carry or spread the virus.

Generally, vaccinated people don't carry the virus and don't get sick. There are rare exceptions.

If she was "lying" as you say, and not just generalizing, then why did her interview coincide with a publicly released report showing the exact results of the study in question? And why would the CDC immediately release a statement clarifying what she said?

A generalization can be considered as a lie regardless of the intentions. That statement even if it was a "generalization" would deceive people into believing that vaccinated people can't carry or spread the virus. Even if the CDC took it back, then it's still a lie as it's an untrue and false statement therefore a lie even if it wasn't intentional. We've called people liars in the past for made generalization statements that weren't in fact true, so don't try and use that excuse with her.

You seem like a smart guy, you what the definition of a lie is and all that it entails.

Do you really want to look up the definition of a lie now? There's no such thing as an "unintentional lie", the definition of a lie is literally that it must be "intentional"

Definition of lie | Dictionary.com

lie
noun
a false statement made with deliberate intent to deceive; an intentional untruth; a falsehood.

 

[bnew]

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

Generally, vaccinated people don't carry the virus and don't get sick. There are rare exceptions.

If she was "lying" as you say, and not just generalizing, then why did her interview coincide with a publicly released report showing the exact results of the study in question? And why would the CDC immediately release a statement clarifying what she said?








There's no such thing as an "unintentional lie", the definition of a lie is literally that it must be "intentional"

Definition of lie | Dictionary.com

lie
noun
a false statement made with deliberate intent to deceive; an intentional untruth; a falsehood.



Get owned by the dictionary brehs.

They had to come out and clarify the statement that she said that was a lie. The words that came out of her mouth were a lie even if the CDC came back and clarified those comments. Her statement was not true as we're literally seeing vaccinated people carry and spread the virus. It doesn't matter the number of people because it goes against her words and statement therefore a lie.

If one of your kids tells you that your wife is at home when she's in fact not and they didn't realize it because she left without them knowing, then they still made a falsehood statement and lie even if it was unintentional as they didn't know that she wasn't there or else they would have said otherwise

 

[iceberg_is_on_fire]

The science is stunting now. Y’all better take heed.

 

[Pazzy]

How many fully vaccinated people have died from covid or after receiving the vaccine??

 

[Professor Emeritus]

How many fully vaccinated people have died from covid or after receiving the vaccine??

About 150 of the more than 18,000 COVID-19 deaths in May were in fully vaccinated people. That translates to about 0.8%, or five deaths per day on average.

Nearly All COVID Deaths in US Are Now Among Unvaccinated



An Associated Press analysis of available government data from May shows that "breakthrough" infections in fully vaccinated people accounted for fewer than 1,200 of more than 853,000 COVID-19 hospitalizations. That's about 0.1%.

Nearly all COVID-19 deaths in US are now among people who weren't vaccinated



That's not from the CDC, it's from an AP analysis of CDC data and only 45 out of 50 states were providing data on which Covid deaths were vaccinated, so it's definitely an undercount. Still, the fact that around 60% of adults including 80+% of older people are vaccinated, yet around 98-99% of deaths are among the unvaccinated, shows that the vaccine is working remarkably well.

Also, nationwide there are now less than 300 deaths/day, down from well over 3000 deaths/day in January.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

They had to come out and clarify the statement that she said that was a lie.

General statements aren't lies.

The clarification was for people who don't get what "suggest" means.

Is English your first language?​