NBA players have gotten too good at basketball

HandyWithTheSteel

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So why didn't most NBA players show all that never-before-seen skill in the last FIBA world cup? Some of them looked completely lost out there the moment some actual FIBA defending happened.

Team USA won gold with Durant and some c-listers. What are you talking about? It’s not 2004. :mjlol:

Also, those international players we’ll play in the NBA too and are apart of the talent explosion. USA is still the best though.
 

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More 24/7 social media podcasts, more cameras, and more ESPN highlights of today does not make this era better lol
 

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In our lifetimes we’ll probably see a major change to the NBA game whether it’s rules/regulations, # of games, etc. I think the product has become stale from a mass appeal standpoint. A lot of people who used to be hardcore fans of the NBA don’t even watch anymore.

I used to be a purist who didn’t want them to change the game but I’m okay with it now.
 

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“No rim protection”

Then why does today’s league average the same amount of blocks per game as the so called “tough and physical” ‘90s?

2024: 5.1 BPG

1991: 5.1 BPG
1992: 5.3 BPG
1993: 5.2 BPG
1994: 5.2 BPG
1995: 5.2 BPG
1996: 5:1 BPG
1997: 4.9 BPG
1998: 5.1 BPG

We got y’all covered from all angles. It’s over nikka. Checkmate. :wow:


The game is played much faster than it was back then, so this stat tells us there’s clearly less defense being allowed to play today along with a bunch 3-point chucking
 

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The big difference isn't really with stars, but like 3-10. Role players are better than they've ever been at any point in history and that's a big thing that's opened things up

One thing that's eye opening with shooting is how three point attempts have nearly tripled over the last 30 years but the percentages have remained pretty much the same ever since 1995.
 

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To be serious for a moment though, they need to suck it up and get rid of the corner three. The shot is just too easy for modern NBA players.

Back in 1995, they were willing to move the 3pt line in closer because that era's players couldn't shoot for shyt. Now it's time to move it out. Make the 3pt line a consistent length all the way around, so that teams have to shoot the long three from the corner, plus worry about stepping out of bounds, and spreading the court to shoot nothing but threes won't be the only strategy in the game anymore.


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What do you think about just eliminating the corner 3 altogether? Cant recall who I heard suggest this but I think it would be interesting. You would have the area above the 3 pt line that counts for 3 and the area below thats all 2s. Of course that doesn't help offenses so it would never happen.
 

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The game is played much faster than it was back then, so this stat tells us there’s clearly less defense being allowed to play today along with a bunch 3-point chucking

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As pointed out in the video, today’s NBA doesn’t play at a fast pace compared to the past.

1990: 98.3
2024: 99.3

And both seasons averaged 5.1 BPG. :wow:
 

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If ya cant agree that the shooting percentage and general talent in that sphere hasnt increased in the last 15-20 yrs , you dont watch the game.

Sure you may want the 90’s forearm to the neck type D to come back. But that i doubt will change much. The schemes, mostly due to the talent, are driven to free up the lane and/or kick to the open man.
 

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All that being said, officiating doesn't help. The defensive rules wouldn't be so bad if the refs didn't let offensive players get away with so much
 

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Another thing people aren't factoring in is the talent pool has just grown exponentially. More people around the world taking basketball seriously means all levels get an infusion of outside talent that just didn't exist in the 80's, 90's and 00's.

From the elites of Giannis, Luka, Shai, Embiid and Jokic
To the fact that it's like 5 dudes in the league named Bogdanovic and they're all great 3rd options on top of the likes of Siakam, Wagner, Murray, Porzingis, etc
To the young up and coming talent like Wemby and Sengun

You got the old guard being able to extend their careers due to diet and training, a large infusion of overseas talent and the traditional crop of young up and comers, the league is just more stacked than ever and I love it.

No more struggle 72-65 point brickfests in the playoffs. No more iso ball and bad mid range jumpers. No more useless players only out there to foul and hog up space. We get ball movement, strategic understanding of space and cutting, every player on the court having a way and figuring out ways to create an advantage for themselves on top of stars being stars. Quick, smart decision making, team exploitation of individually bad defenders, people aren't just sticking to their man to prove some dumbass point, they're picking on and switching onto YOUR sorry ass and punishing you every trip. They're tilting the floor and angling things just to attack YOU over and over again until you get pulled from the floor. Good basketball. :blessed:


If you hate this era of hoop you just don't like team ball and miss the iso hero ball era and likely prefer the individualism of the old game. I don't, it was bad basketball. :manny:
 
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Somewhat off topic but maybe not, because the refs are helping these players a lot. Watching Rockets games it seems whenever a player drives to the basket and is defended close it's a foul and if the foul isn't called immediately the refs wait to see if the offensive player makes the layup, if he misses then the late foul is called.

It's ridiculous how protected offensive players are these days.
This isn’t new. Refs have ALWAYS done this shyt, and low key they do it on every level too. You see that in little league ball.
 
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