Nas - Magic 2 (Discussion thread)

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Son that shyt was so fukkin ill. nikka described slowing down a magic trick.
nikkaz really think there's dudes better than him? :mjlol:
I’m listening to some of the beats Kraven gave Ransom in their latest collab and I’m dying inside at the suggestion of Nas working with that bum

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I fukk with Ransom heavy but I agree he definitely needs a change. Son is a menace on the mic but Kraven limits the fukk outta him
 

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NOPE .
As a major fan of the goat. Y'all gotta stop it man.

This album is mid on arrival.

I remember what is was like to be honest about the Nasir album as well while it was actually live streaming and I got attacked. It takes some Nas fans a while to be honest. This album is not it.

Okay but how gon tell that man how he supposed to feel about it :mjlol:
 

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I'll admit that the album hasn't reached that next level for me yet. This is the first Hit-Boy album that didn't grab me immediately (my first listen with KD2 was scattered throughout the day, but I still knew how great it was). I feel like with the King's Disease albums, they go in different directions sonically each time, but they all feel related in some ways (R&B features, classic stuff at the beginning with reflective stuff at the end, etc.). With this album, it doesn't sound like it was trying to capture the essence of the first Magic. There's no formula that I can point to like with the King's Disease albums. It just sounds like another album. And there's nothing wrong with that, but I don't think it should have been called Magic 2. Especially since you're competing with songs like "Speechless," "Meet Joe Black," "Ugly".......the whole album. It's not even fair to compare, but they already topped themselves twice.

I think it's a testament to how great Nas and Hit-Boy are together that it's almost expected for each album to be better than the last one. The last three tracks here (not the bonus track) are the best part of the album. I noticed immediately that the energy shifted and had those tracks been the foundation of the album, it would have felt more like a sequel to Magic. That darker, black-and-white, underground feel. That's what Magic was to me, a recently discovered mixtape disguised as an album released at a time when everyone was busy with other things.

I don't want Nas and Hit-Boy to stop working together. I don't think Nas has to go out and start working with other producers because it's the same old sound. We've gotten five albums in three years and none of them sound alike. But creatively, it's going to get harder to maintain that high level, especially now that more and more people have caught on to what's going on here. I don't know what the next move is. KD4, Magic 3, an album with a different name? Who knows? But there's no rush for these two to come back. They can take their time with the next one and put out another next level album like they did with the first four.
 

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My rankings after giving the new album a few spins

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I'll admit that the album hasn't reached that next level for me yet. This is the first Hit-Boy album that didn't grab me immediately (my first listen with KD2 was scattered throughout the day, but I still knew how great it was). I feel like with the King's Disease albums, they go in different directions sonically each time, but they all feel related in some ways (R&B features, classic stuff at the beginning with reflective stuff at the end, etc.). With this album, it doesn't sound like it was trying to capture the essence of the first Magic. There's no formula that I can point to like with the King's Disease albums. It just sounds like another album. And there's nothing wrong with that, but I don't think it should have been called Magic 2. Especially since you're competing with songs like "Speechless," "Meet Joe Black," "Ugly".......the whole album. It's not even fair to compare, but they already topped themselves twice.

I think it's a testament to how great Nas and Hit-Boy are together that it's almost expected for each album to be better than the last one. The last three tracks here (not the bonus track) are the best part of the album. I noticed immediately that the energy shifted and had those tracks been the foundation of the album, it would have felt more like a sequel to Magic. That darker, black-and-white, underground feel. That's what Magic was to me, a recently discovered mixtape disguised as an album released at a time when everyone was busy with other things.

I don't want Nas and Hit-Boy to stop working together. I don't think Nas has to go out and start working with other producers because it's the same old sound. We've gotten five albums in three years and none of them sound alike. But creatively, it's going to get harder to maintain that high level, especially now that more and more people have caught on to what's going on here. I don't know what the next move is. KD4, Magic 3, an album with a different name? Who knows? But there's no rush for these two to come back. They can take their time with the next one and put out another next level album like they did with the first four.

I think everyone expected if Magic was to be a series it would be hit and Nas creating that street single Nas army jacket energy that the first album signaled image and sonically

That this album’s cover had a young Nas also was the expectation. But listening to it the commonality is make these joints be design for Nas to just straight up spit no R&B, relationship stuff almost like a mixtape and the aim this time was some new sounds and flows plus vintage stuff like motion

Hence the cover
 

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no lie. That’s exactly what my first expectation was to be just like magic thinking about speechless how it started for me. That sound.. so when I first hear this non rapping intro on my first play, I’m already like :gucci: …. Then I heard the abracadabra beat and I’m like:snoop:…… this ain’t it… heard office hours…:ahh:…. Then heard black magic.. :dahell:


once I separated the albums, I can’t even stop bumping abracadabra…. shyt bangs hard for me now…. Still registering. Won’t front. Tried to give it the whip test and maybe it wasn’t the right setting but I had to pass. Been streaming this in my ear pods and it continues to get better and better….
 

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This probably my favorite of the Nas/Hitboy albums.

I've been critically of those albums but this I think is overall the best package of Hitboy beats and Nas performance on the mic. Hitboy ain't no Madlib but there's some nice flips on here and I like that he's using more 808s which he's better at than boom bap.

Nas is spitting. I ain't gonna pretend he's on some Lost Tapes next level shyt anymore but he's going in on these tracks and is rapping aggressively.

It benefits from sounding looser than the KD albums and the production is much better than the first Magic album.

Good album.
 

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no lie. That’s exactly what my first expectation was to be just like magic thinking about speechless how it started for me. That sound.. so when I first hear this non rapping intro on my first play, I’m already like :gucci: …. Then I heard the abracadabra beat and I’m like:snoop:…… this ain’t it… heard office hours…:ahh:…. Then heard black magic.. :dahell:


once I separated the albums, I can’t even stop bumping abracadabra…. shyt bangs hard for me now…. Still registering. Won’t front. Tried to give it the whip test and maybe it wasn’t the right setting but I had to pass. Been streaming this in my ear pods and it continues to get better and better….

Speechless sound a lot like a Puff & The Hitmen beat from 1997. Abracadabra sound like, I don't know, an electronic version of a silent movie score over trap drums? :mjlol: Nas kills both tracks though. But I could tell three tracks in this album was gonna be real polarizing and most the crowd that don't like Hit was gonna hate it

But yeah, like Magic 1, both are mostly Nas talking his shyt with a few concept and topical tracks mixed in. If you listen back to back they actually go together great
 
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