Nas dropped a hella weird song, but its a grower and not that wack

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Would you consider Jay Z in 1996 "the streets"? Do you think he lied when he said "one was meh, the other was Illmatic"?
He flat said he lied and didnt feel that way. Out his own mouth. And his first album that he hails as a classic got the same real time rating that IWW got in The Source.
 

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He flat said he lied and didnt feel that way. Out his own mouth. And his first album that he hails as a classic got the same real time rating that IWW got in The Source.

Actually he said that in a battle, you're trying to say things that you know people believe...whether you personally believe it or not. There was a perception that Nas fell off, there were purists who felt he only had one good album...those are facts lol. It was perceived as a sell out album by many people. Yea a lot of folks loved it and it has taken on "classic" status today by many...but we can't ignore what certain people were feeling at the time.
 

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Actually he said that in a battle, you're trying to say things that you know people believe...whether you personally believe it or not. There was a perception that Nas fell off, there were purists who felt he only had one good album...those are facts lol. It was perceived as a sell out album by many people. Yea a lot of folks loved it and it has taken on "classic" status today by many...but we can't ignore what certain people were feeling at the time.
Son he was playing off how dumb and ignorant some of his fans were. U had dumb nikkas walkin up to me saying that Illmatic was Nas’ only platinum album after that battle when in reality it was his ONLY Gold album at the time. I honestly didnt realize people hated IWW until I got on the internet. Even the reviews for the album in magazines werent bad. Source gave it 4 out of 5. Same score as Reasonable Doubt and a half score less than Ready To Die. Mix that with that shyt being bumped out of whips CRAZY at that time. I actually saw Nas in concert that year as well and was there at Nassau Coliseum when he announced Pac’s death. Noone I knew hated Nas.
 
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Dumb people randomly walked up to you to debate illmatic?

Weird
No. nikkas would he discussing music and Nas and Jay would come up. And dumb nikkas would say shyt like Illmatic was his only plat album. Alot of his die hard fans were literally swearing by what Jay said without fact checking anything at the time. Jay went up on Summerjam. Posted up a pic of Prodigy dancing like MJ. Said Prodigy was a ballerina. And for whatever reason. People walked away convinced he put up a pic of Prodigy doing ballet. That’s how effective Jay was at brainwashing his fans.
 

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No. nikkas would he discussing music and Nas and Jay would come up. And dumb nikkas would say shyt like Illmatic was his only plat album. Alot of his die hard fans were literally swearing by what Jay said without fact checking anything at the time.

I was being annoying.

Ayo.... the single is hot. Not reading through this thread
But u one of the posters i
respect opinions on.

Song is hot or not iyo?
 

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I was being annoying.

Ayo.... the single is hot. Not reading through this thread
But u one of the posters i
respect opinions on.

Song is hot or not iyo?
Me personally? It’s not for me. I cant really fukk wit it. I respect what he was trying to do but dont think it shoudlve been on a Lost Tapes. Shoulda saved it for a Jazz EP or some shyt. Or left it in the cutting room floor. imo.
 

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Son he was playing off how dumb and ignorant some of his fans were. U had dumb nikkas walkin up to me saying that Illmatic was Nas’ only platinum album after that battle when in reality it was his ONLY Gold album at the time.

You're right....but on the other hand you can't deny there was a negative perception of Nas, and people thought he had fallen off critically and commercially. DMX and Hov had taken over a couple years before the battle, Ja was bigger, etc. Nas was in a weird no man's land where he wasn't "real rap" enough to satisfy purists, and wasn't a good enough mainstream artist to satisfy mainstream fans who were flocking to DMX/Hov/Ja/etc. Nastradamus was THAT bad.
:yeshrug:

It was the perfect time to attack him and it worked...for awhile. Until Nas came back.
 

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You're right....but on the other hand you can't deny there was a negative perception of Nas, and people thought he had fallen off critically and commercially. DMX and Hov had taken over a couple years before the battle, Ja was bigger, etc. Nas was in a weird no man's land where he wasn't "real rap" enough to satisfy purists, and wasn't a good enough mainstream artist to satisfy mainstream fans who were flocking to DMX/Hov/Ja/etc. Nastradamus was THAT bad.
:yeshrug:

It was the perfect time to attack him and it worked...for awhile. Until Nas came back.
Nas just came from dropping 2 multiplatinum albums in one year and being featured on hit singles all thruout the year 2000. Nastradamus was bad but it wasn’t even meant to be an album. It was a throwaway and people STILL flocked to it. I Am got great reception both critically and commercially. And the street was on that album heavy as well. Both the bootleg and the retail. shyt got bootlegged so crazy he went on a rant on the radio and had to change it. And it STILL went multiplat. And got 4.5 mics in The Source.
 

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I'm not sure why nikkas in here are acting like it's impossible for Nas to make a wack song.

Every emcee has wack songs in their catalog.

I think the problem is that this garbage ass song was released prior to the actual album release. If we only found out about it after the whole album came out I think nikkas would admit that it's wack and enjoy the rest of the album in peace.

But this nikka put his stans on defence by comin out with this shyt out the gate.
 

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I'm not sure why nikkas in here are acting like it's impossible for Nas to make a wack song.

Every emcee has wack songs in their catalog.

I think the problem is that this garbage ass song was released prior to the actual album release. If we only found out about it after the whole album came out I think nikkas would admit that it's wack and enjoy the rest of the album in peace.

But this nikka put his stans on defence by comin out with this shyt out the gate.
Why yall keep saying shyt like this? It’s only a few people saying the song is good when majority of his die hard fans on here are flat out calling shyt like it is.
 

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shyt ain’t that bad. But I listen to a lot of older jazz and hard bop, now that I’m old and washed.

I can see why some won’t like it though.
 

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Al Jarreau’s style of jazz is that corny, 80’s shyt. Like some Broadway sis boom ba bullshyt. Reminds of late season Cosby Shiw themes.

Cats in here flodgin’ like Jarreau is Bird or some shyt.

I’d bet money Jarreau has worked with Kenny G or Najee.


I couldn’t stand 80’s, 90’s “smooth” elevator jazz as a kid lmao. My mom loved that shyt but my dad played Roy Ayers, Sun Ra, and lee Morgan. All the cool shyt.
 
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