This forum has some obvious bias but if thats how you want to approach it no way I am going to change your mind.
Nas Calls R. Kelly a Rapist
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This forum has some obvious bias but if thats how you want to approach it no way I am going to change your mind.
mastermind
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to an extent tho, you can see his point. There was no real internet back then so info didn't move as fast
The other thing is R. Kelly made "I Believe I Can Fly" in 1996. I bring that up because that became one of the biggest songs of the 90s and church groups were defending R. Kelly cuz of that song.
Again, Nas hands ain't clean but 1995-6 was very different versus 2003-4 with R. Kelly.
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mastermind
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I’m the one who originally made that point in this thread. My only point is information moved slower back then and it obviously didn’t hurt Rape Kelly since he made one of the biggest songs of the 1990s in 1996.
It wasn’t defending Nas, but instead bringing the context of the time.
I agree that info moved slow back then sorry I have not seen the entire thread so thank you for making that point but I dont buy Nas didnt know about it this shyt was a huge news story and he was in the industry as a grown as man when it occurred. Everyone kept fukking with R Kelly though even Dame and Jay who were obviously close with Aaliyah although Dame is trying to act like he did not so everyone is equally guilty imo.
I’m the one who originally made that point in this thread. My only point is information moved slower back then and it obviously didn’t hurt Rape Kelly since he made one of the biggest songs of the 1990s in 1996.
It wasn’t defending Nas, but instead bringing the context of the time.
mastermind
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I never said Nas didn't know. Hence why I said, "his hands aren't clean."
My point wasn't about Nas, but the public's attitude. He may well have seen that story, but in 1995-96 that shyt was easily explained away. When I said information moved slow, that is the point. You cannot do that in 2019. You cannot easily explain shyt.
And this story wasn't that huge. It did get on MTV, but that clip you talking about was one of those 60-second blurbs MTV news used to air randomly throughout the day. This story didn't penetrate the public's consciousness. If it did, R. Kelly wouldn't have been allowed to make "I Believe I Can Fly" in 1996.
Put it like this, people have seen clips of Surviving R. Kelly millions of times. It has penetrated our consciousness. In 1995, the Vibe magazine expose comes out and MTV released that news blurb, That was it, it didn't live forever online. A person who wasn't watching MTV or didn't read Vibe didn't have that appear on their timeline in 1996 out of nowhere. (edit: there wasnt a timeline, lol)
The reason I get on Jay and Dame more than Nas is that tape came out in 2002 and Dame was allegedly engaged to Aaliyah and has said she talked about her relationship with R. Kelly before she passed yet still had a business relationship afterward with him.
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I agree the story didnt penetrate but I dont agree about the scope of the story people was constantly asking her about it in interviews and obviously her parents quickly swept it under the rug that was just one clip of many but thats just my opinion.
mastermind
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And she explained it away by saying it wasn't true even though it clearly was.
In 2019, the person who signed that certificate would be called up and given an interview, no one would believe Aaliyah and that would probably wreck her career and Rape Kelly woulda been over.
It's just adding context to why Nas may have worked with Kelly anyway. Its not a defense, but the environment wasnt as hot.
In 2002-04, we had a tape of R. Kelly peeing on a young girl. Even still, somehow Jay and Dame escaped any real repercussions from it.
spliz
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I never said Nas didnt know. I said nikkas didnt really believe it. On top of the fact that people thought Aaliyah was lying about her age as well. Like I said. Times were different then. And everyone involved denied the fukk out of it. If u knew the context of how rumors worked back then u would understand where im coming from.
