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You guys are bugging if you dont think Mayweather can beat Aldo and Wladamir beat Cain. A boxer can beat an mma fighter with mma rules as long as they have above average footspeed, great footwork and a solid clinching game.

Toney never had a chace in mma rules because his feet are too damn slow.
 

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Other fighters whose leg have been battered with leg kicks:

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^Ended up with a broken leg.

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Wandy after taking a body kick from Cro Cop:

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gyaaaaat dam!
 

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I think it was in an interview or something. I may be wrong though.
ahh i see. it just makes me think how terrifying a kickboxer tyson would've been. but then again that would've detracted from his pure boxing and perhaps his highlight reels woulda been, perhaps less thrilling. Or even more ferocious
 

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You guys are bugging if you dont think Mayweather can beat Aldo and Wladamir beat Cain. A boxer can beat an mma fighter with mma rules as long as they have above average footspeed, great footwork and a solid clinching game.

Toney never had a chace in mma rules because his feet are too damn slow.
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footwork:troll:
clinching game:troll:
footspeed:troll:

he'll never touch me, and if he does, my clinch training, which consists of tying up until the ref breaks it up, or rabbit punches, will EASILY overcome years of wrestling, or years of judo, or years of bjj. because I am a boxer, taking me down is impossible and my punches never miss:troll:

kicks don't affect me either because they won't land:troll:

mma is just a hobby :troll:

only boxers are real athletes:troll:

no mma fighter could have faster hands than a boxer :troll:
 

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@KyokushinKarateka @The Infamous @Granite State
footwork:troll:
clinching game:troll:
footspeed:troll:

he'll never touch me, and if he does, my clinch training, which consists of tying up until the ref breaks it up, or rabbit punches, will EASILY overcome years of wrestling, or years of judo, or years of bjj. because I am a boxer, taking me down is impossible and my punches never miss
:troll:

kicks don't affect me either because they won't land:troll:

mma is just a hobby :troll:

only boxers are real athletes:troll:

no mma fighter could have faster hands than a boxer :troll:
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A good clinch game consists of grabbing a guy, holding his head down and pivoting from him. Its simply a simpler form of take down defense. You think a boxer with a good clinch game cant make the proper adjustments and develop a solid clinch game in a 2 month training camp?

An ATG-level boxer is going to concious of slipped punches leading to take downs and will lower his volume of punches accordingly. It wont be pretty but the boxer can win off landing a few more strikes than his opponent each round. Plus a good boxer will be unpredictable by changing the tempo and combinations of punches each round. Its not like the boxer is going to continue doing the same 1-2 until the mma fighter learns how to counter it.

About kicks... I have seen punches counter kicks but I have NEVER seen a kick counter a punch.

Look, I never said mma fighters are not atheletes, its just that there are experts in wresting and jiu jitsu and judo training mma but no boxing experts training mma. mma stars like Rousey, Jon Jones, and Cormier have shytty striking coaches and mma fans seem content with the mediocrity in their striking.

People praise Jon Jones for his striking, but as a boxing fan, he looks very slow and uncoordinated. His clumsy ass could never cut off the octagon on a prime 175 Jones Jr, even with the weight advantage.

Look, ill give mma fighters their credit because what they do is not easy. Im just saying that an ATG level boxer like Mayweather Jr , Jones Jr, and Duran have a solid chance of being sucessful off of boxing with a few quick modifications of their style, while an ATG level mma fighter can not quickly develop the footwork and agility needed to successfully compete at a high level of boxing.
 
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@joeychizzle come speak your peace. I had some issues trying to write paragraphs on my phone.
come speak my peace? are you some kind of high commander or lord? or some delusional boxing fan who doesn't recognize real shyt

you're talking like MMA fighters don't train for having their head pulled down. That's the first shyt they learn in the clinch. Simply pulling your opponent's head down and trying to pivot will
1. get you slammed
2. judo throwed
3. leg tripped.
wrestling, judo and bjj are ALL about the clinch. they SPECIALIZE in that. So they've definitely trained for getting their head pulled down. boxing clinches ain't shyt.
and if the fighter's base is muay thai, they're going to get pulled around in the double collar clinch and take a knee to the face. or elbows.

two months of training isn't enough to counter YEARS of training against basic clinchwork.

once your guy hits the ground it's a wrap. he's getting punched out or limbs snapped or choked out.

and you talk like kicks aren't even a thing. 'punches can't be countered by kicks but punches can counter kicks'
you make it sound like training to block low, middle and high kicks from both orthodox and unorthodox angles are easy as fukk. Someone like Aldo, Cerrone or Barboza lands a few leg kicks and you'll be limping. Damaged legs also removes head movement and footwork. try taking kicks when you're not mobile. I'm not even talking about body kicks and high kicks. How about front kicks? Don't forget the mma glove size. You can't hide behind your gloves any more and try that peek a boo guard. Will your boxer also successfully defend against high level black belts on the ground, or endlessly defend takedowns from wrestlers, who are trained to chain takedown after takedown until they get it? Remember, the fight doesn't get paused when the fight hits the mat. You don't get 10 seconds to get the fukk up.

Of course mma fighter's striking isn't as good as pure strikers. they have to train in other aspects, not just boxing. you don't see anymore with a pure boxing stance because they'd get kicked to shyt for doing so.

That's like me saying pacman and money may have terrible takedowns and submissions.

Boxers will win in a boxing match. I'm never doubting that. But in mma rules? Mayweather is gonna have his ACL torn from kicks, or he's going unconscious.

Duran might be gritty as fukk, and I am a great fan of his, but the modern landscape of combat sports has rendered boxing not obsolete, but outdated by itself.


you really have to consider that the mma fighter has dozens more tools at his disposal, and he's obviously trained for boxers well, because one of the first things you learn is hands. They might not master all aspects but you can bet they get damn proficient in all.

No matter how mobile you are, a leg kick will stand you still. And after a few, you're stationary.
 
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You guys are bugging if you dont think Mayweather can beat Aldo and Wladamir beat Cain. A boxer can beat an mma fighter with mma rules as long as they have above average footspeed, great footwork and a solid clinching game.

Toney never had a chace in mma rules because his feet are too damn slow.
I dont know if youve ever trained, so the concept might seem a little abstract, but as a boxer who learned the hard way that no matter what you train in the boxing gym, it isnt going to be effective enough to stop a take down from someone who knows what they are doing. Honestly im sure you have a friend or a cousin who wrestled in high school, tell them to try their best and take you down while you do whatever you can to stop them..BELIEVE ME its not gonna work lol. I wont argue about how effective kicks are because people dont understand leg kicks until they get leg kicked and I would nevr tell a fellow coli breh to take that kind of damage just to experience it lol...but I think you are misunderstanding the effectiveness of take downs and submissions my breh. Even MIKE TYSON himself admitted if he fought Royce Gracie in UFC 1, he would have lost lol
 

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50 year old boxer beat a UFC champ like 2 fights removed from fighting for the MMA championship


Pretty much:heh:

An MMA Fighter could never defeat a top 5 boxer in a similar weight class in a Boxing match though:sas2:

Now, normally, leg kicks and takedowns SHOULD do a boxer in...but if you get Ray Mercer'd on your shoot in, then you're done.

Ray Mercer effectively gave Boxing fans the bragging rights until a MMA fighter can prove they can actually beat a Boxer in a Boxing ring like that boxer beat a MMA fighter in the Octagon under MMA rules:banderas:
 

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You guys are bugging if you dont think Mayweather can beat Aldo and Wladamir beat Cain. A boxer can beat an mma fighter with mma rules as long as they have above average footspeed, great footwork and a solid clinching game.

Toney never had a chace in mma rules because his feet are too damn slow.
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