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Just curious, what;s your ethnic background?

FBA is just another way or name for to classify Black Americans specifically & I'm sure Joe knows this. He isn't stupid
I'm Black but also a tether. lol Half African American, half Jamaican.
He was talking about niqqaz who were getting at him not every African American.
 

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I'm Black but also a tether. lol Half African American, half Jamaican.
He was talking about niqqaz who were getting at him not every African American.
You're not a "tether" lol if you have at least 1 Black American parent & you aren't c00ning :mjlol: ............yet........:troll:
(Just kidding)

I don't use that word but it's specifically used to classify non Black American c00ns. Whether he realized it or not, he insulted the very same people that accepted & put him on & who he makes his money from. For that, he needs to be got at because he isn't stupid & I'm sure someone from at least the last year told him who Foundational Black Americans are. He said that 50/50 shyt a year ago at least
 

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You're not a "tether" lol if you have at least 1 Black American parent & you aren't c00ning :mjlol: ............yet........:troll:
(Just kidding)

I don't use that word but it's specifically used to classify non Black American c00ns. Whether he realized it or not, he insulted the very same people that accepted & put him on & who he makes his money from. For that, he needs to be got at because he isn't stupid & I'm sure someone from at least the last year told him who Foundational Black Americans are. He said that 50/50 shyt a year ago at least
The 50/50 shyt is wack and malicious. Fat Joe knows exactly what he is trying to do. And lying about past Hip Hop shyt seems to be his MO now. Saying he was gonna do an album with Biggie, inserting himself in Hip Hop historical events he had nothing to do with etc. He's corny and needs to be called out for all of it. But he gets a lot of love from his peers so trying to get other people to hate him/not like him is kinda futile. He's got too many connects and too much history for it to work.
 

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The 50/50 shyt is wack and malicious. Fat Joe knows exactly what he is trying to do. And lying about past Hip Hop shyt seems to be his MO now. Saying he was gonna do an album with Biggie, inserting himself in Hip Hop historical events he had nothing to do with etc. He's corny and needs to be called out for all of it. But he gets a lot of love from his peers so trying to get other people to hate him/not like him is kinda futile. He's got too many connects and too much history for it to work.
This right above people is the point

The "racist Black radical" comment was the icing on the cake as far as I'm concerned, which I wouldn't doubt his boy "Dr." Colon aka Dr. Colonizer probably used too
 

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I guess you forgot the part where he referred to Black Americans as "a group of radical Black racists" which is a label racists whites have used against Black Americans for years deflecting from their own racism



FBA is not a universally acknowledged term by Black Americans. The perfect example of this is Yvette and Tone would never acknowledge themselves as FBA because they don't fuK with Tariq. Yvette and Tone would more then likely co sign Joe and agree that FBA being associated with Tariq is a a radical cult because they are both all about taking shots at anything Tariq related. I myself don't refer to myself as FBA even tho by definition I would be.

The truth of the matter is that the term FBA is a term currently more associated with Tariq Nasheed and is not a term universally accepted by Black Americans. There was a whole thread made a few days ago confirming that fact and saying that FBA is an online thing not an outside in the real world thing. In the end its not about siding with Joe for disrespecting Black Americans. It's about acknowledging Joe was attacking Tariq and his online followers. And you have issues with those who see it that way and not your way.
 

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FBA is not a universally acknowledged term by Black Americans. The perfect example of this is Yvette and Tone would never acknowledge themselves as FBA because they don't fuK with Tariq. Yvette and Tone would more then likely co sign Joe and agree that FBA being associated with Tariq is a a radical cult because they are both all about taking shots at anything Tariq related. I myself don't refer to myself as FBA even tho by definition I would be.

The truth of the matter is that the term FBA is a term currently more associated with Tariq Nasheed and is not a term universally accepted by Black Americans. There was a whole thread made a few days ago confirming that fact and saying that FBA is an online thing not an outside in the real world thing. In the end its not about siding with Joe for disrespecting Black Americans. It's about acknowledging Joe was attacking Tariq and his online followers. And you have issues with those who see it that way and not your way.
I don't wanna hear anything you have to say. You're the worst detractor & most disingenuous poster on this site

There's nothing left to say
 

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Look at the usual posters in this thread bashing him(Tariq) and twisting logic to support Fat Joe. It could literally be Tariq versus the devil himself, and dudes in here will defend the points of the devil.

It works both ways tho. You got people in here who hate Fat Joe and will twist logic to support Tariq saying Joe disrespected Black Americans when people with actual brains know Joe was going at Tariq and his online followers.

I fuX with both Joe and Tariq. Only issue I have with Tariq is him attempting to interject his personal diaspora war in Hip Hop for the past 3 years when hop hop doesn't separate ethnicities and race. I'm the only one in this thread who isn't taking a side. I acknowledge that Joe name dropped FBA and Lord Jamar to go viral as part of his album promo run and I also acknowledge Tariq was using Joe earlier this year to promote his Microphone Check documentary as well as making content for YouTube which me monetizes on. They both used each other to promote their releases. They both used "emotion bait" for online feedback. You are not supposed to get caught up in the "emotion bait" on a serious level because it's just a carrot on a stick used by smart business men who rely on your emotions for promo, feedback and support.
 
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It works both ways tho. You got people in here who hate Fat Joe and will twist logic to support Tariq saying Joe disrespected Black Americans when people with actual brains know Joe was going at Tariq and his online followers.

I fuX with both Joe and Tariq. Only issue I have with Tariq is him attempting to interject his personal diaspora war in Hip Hop for the past 3 years when hop hop doesn't separate ethnicities and race. I'm the only one in this thread who isn't taking a side. I acknowledge that Joe name dropped FBA and Lord Jamar to go viral as part of his album promo run and I also acknowledge Tariq was using Joe earlier this year to promote his Microphone Check documentary as well as making content for YouTube which me monetizes on. They both used each other to promote their releases. They both used "emotion bait" for online feedback. You are not supposed to get caught up in the "emotion bait" on a serious level because it's just a carrot on a stick used by smart business men who rely on your emotions for promo, feedback and support.
I hear what you're saying but no matter the thread, I've read on plenty of occasions in different threads of you going out of your way to be overly critical of anything Tariq does, just say you don't fukk with him and his agenda and I can totally respect it.

The genesis of Tariq creating Microphone check was Fat Joe repeatedly bringing up the notion "latinos help create hip hop 50/50" and others like Busta Rhymes regurgitating the same talking points. I don't think Tariq was using Fat Joe for "clout".

Again check my post history, I have been critical of Tariq as well for other things but I also give him his props and don't need to create daily threads to create traffic to my username and I'm not saying you specifically do that.

I don't like when Tariq says the whole you can look at their "forehead" and see that they are foreign BS and other things. He's a very good speaker who is not informed on certain issues like a say TBA or PBT. I also have noticed Tariq has not been as disrespectful with Joe and Math hoffa as he was with other people and surprise, surprise he wants to fly all the way to NY to be on Math's platform. I'm just asking you to be fair or just say how you really feel.
 
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I hear what you're saying but no matter the thread, I've read on plenty of occasions in different threads of you going out of your way to be overly critical of anything Tariq does, just say you don't fukk with him and his agenda and I can totally respect it.

The genesis of Tariq creating Microphone check was Fat Joe repeatedly bringing up the notion "latinos help create hip hop 50/50" and others like Busta Rhymes regurgitating the same talking points. I don't think Tariq was using Fat Joe for "clout".

Again check my post history, I have been critical of Tariq as well for other things but I also give him his props and don't need to create daily threads to create traffic to my username and I'm not saying you specifically do that.

I don't like when Tariq says the whole you can look at their "forehead" and see that they are foreign BS and other things. He's a very good speaker who is not informed on certain issues like a say TBA or PBT. I also have noticed Tariq has not been as disrespectful with Joe and Math hoffa as he was with other people and surprise, surprise he wants to fly all the way to NY to be on Math's platform. I'm just asking you to be fair or just say how you really feel.

The only thing you've ever read where I'm critiquing Tariq has always been in relation to Tariq attempting to bring his personal diaspora war into Hip Hop and the Tariq dikk riders who ignore that part because they are either oblivious to Hip Hop culture and history because Hip Hop doesn't separate ethnicities like Tariq does. I fux with Tariq but like, how I fux with both Drake and Kendrick but loathe a Kendrick or Drake super dikk rider. Similarly, I seriously hate Tariq dikk riders and parrots. Like how I can't stand the "FBA's created Hip Hop" trope when Jamaican born King Charles was right there in the beginning with Grand Master Flowers in the late 60's. Dudes just repeating a talking point that's debunkable. As a Hip Hop head, I can't stand these frauds who never gave a shyt about 70's Hip Hop all of a sudden pretending like who was there in the beginning is such a big deal. That's why I presented the statement in that Microphone Check thread: "If all you can do is say FBAs created Hip Hop but you can't name 5 prominent figures in 70's Hip Hop not named Herc, Bambatta or Flash, then you are full of shyt." My stance is the preservation of the history based on the elements not ethnicity. There's the Birth(early 70's) and there's the development ( late 70's/early 80's). Hip Hop itself wasn't named "Hip Hop" in it's birth, FACTS. One of it's primary names in the birth was "Jam." "Jam" was a term still being used by the early 80's. But by the time Hip Hop was developed, it was named 'Hip Hop' and yes, that is when Puerto Ricans started to get involved. The same way Puerto Ricans came later in Hip Hops development, so did graffiti. Graffiti was not there in Hip Hop's birth either. Graffiti came later in it's development. But notice how you never EVER hear the argument of "But but but but graffiti wasn't there during the birth of Hip Hop." Go figure.


Mack Lessons Tariq was legendary. Hidden Colors Tariq was special. Lets keep it a buck, "Diaspora War" Tariq is on some other shyt. Joe was correct about him being on some racist separatist bullshyt. Those thumbnails on his Youtube page depicting West Indians and Africans looks like something straight outta 4ch@n. Trump says Haitians are eating pets and immediately right after, Tariq makes a video depicting Africans as exotic animal eaters with flies around their faces but how dare Joe say this is radical & racist:




Hip Hop would never mock Africans in such a manner. Hip Hop had a beautiful Afrocentric era in the late 80's/early 90's where dashikis, kufi's and African medallions were a thing. Depicting Africans in a manner similar to a white racist has never ever been a thing in Hip Hop so yeah, I'm gonna call his antics out every day all day because it has no place anywhere near Hip Hop. You can never be an advocate for Hip Hop doing this kind of racist nonsense. But the Tariq worshippers in this thread want me to ignore that video and the many others similar to it because they don't really give a shyt about how this isn't a good representation of someone who is supposed to be this advocate for Hip Hop. According to them, Fat Joe is bad for calling stuff like this out but Tariq's racist video depicting Africans as bush eaters isn't a red flag at all so ignore it and hate on Joe instead.
 

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The only thing you've ever read where I'm critiquing Tariq has always been in relation to Tariq attempting to bring his personal diaspora war into Hip Hop and the Tariq dikk riders who ignore that part because they are either oblivious to Hip Hop culture and history because Hip Hop doesn't separate ethnicities like Tariq does. I fux with Tariq but like, how I fux with both Drake and Kendrick but loathe a Kendrick or Drake super dikk rider. Similarly, I seriously hate Tariq dikk riders and parrots. Like how I can't stand the "FBA's created Hip Hop" trope when Jamaican born King Charles was right there in the beginning with Grand Master Flowers in the late 60's. Dudes just repeating a talking point that's debunkable. As a Hip Hop head, I can't stand these frauds who never gave a shyt about 70's Hip Hop all of a sudden pretending like who was there in the beginning is such a big deal. That's why I presented the statement in that Microphone Check thread: "If all you can do is say FBAs created Hip Hop but you can't name 5 prominent figures in 70's Hip Hop not named Herc, Bambatta or Flash, then you are full of shyt." My stance is the preservation of the history based on the elements not ethnicity. There's the Birth(early 70's) and there's the development ( late 70's/early 80's). Hip Hop itself wasn't named "Hip Hop" in it's birth, FACTS. One of it's primary names in the birth was "Jam." "Jam" was a term still being used by the early 80's. But by the time Hip Hop was developed, it was named 'Hip Hop' and yes, that is when Puerto Ricans started to get involved. The same way Puerto Ricans came later in Hip Hops development, so did graffiti. Graffiti was not there in Hip Hop's birth either. Graffiti came later in it's development. But notice how you never EVER hear the argument of "But but but but graffiti wasn't there during the birth of Hip Hop." Go figure.


Mack Lessons Tariq was legendary. Hidden Colors Tariq was special. Lets keep it a buck, "Diaspora War" Tariq is on some other shyt. Joe was correct about him being on some racist separatist bullshyt. Those thumbnails on his Youtube page depicting West Indians and Africans looks like something straight outta 4ch@n. Trump says Haitians are eating pets and immediately right after, Tariq makes a video depicting Africans as exotic animal eaters with flies around their faces but how dare Joe say this is radical & racist:




Hip Hop would never mock Africans in such a manner. Hip Hop had a beautiful Afrocentric era in the late 80's/early 90's where dashikis, kufi's and African medallions were a thing. Depicting Africans in a manner similar to a white racist has never ever been a thing in Hip Hop so yeah, I'm gonna call his antics out every day all day because it has no place anywhere near Hip Hop. You can never be an advocate for Hip Hop doing this kind of racist nonsense. But the Tariq worshippers in this thread want me to ignore that video and the many others similar to it because they don't really give a shyt about how this isn't a good representation of someone who is supposed to be this advocate for Hip Hop. According to them, Fat Joe is bad for calling stuff like this out but Tariq's racist video depicting Africans as bush eaters isn't a red flag at all so ignore it and hate on Joe instead.

Bro theres no sense in wall of text filled with dodo bird babble

The whole 'integrating ethnicities" thing didnt start with tariq or even fat joe. Fat joe was a major figure that spewed that 50/50 non sense. That was when they "integrated ethnicities" The whole hip hop came from jamaica was "integrating ethnicities" None of this is depedent on tariq nasheed or him hating on fat joe. Its a stupid point because even if it was personal on tariqs behalf, fat joe IS STILL WRONG. IT DOESNT MATTER LOL. Not sure what part of that you dont understand. All that bet awards shyt you spew are non factors in the argument. And just shows your fixated on tariq then anything else

Tariq didnt MAKE people care about early hip hop in the seventies.Black americans have the general curiosity to know the truth. It a stupid point because you and you alone dont what the fukk someone genuinely cares about. Your just babbling

Black american culture, generally operates with us at its main center. It doesnt have to explicity state FBA. If you are outside that ethnic frame but adhere to the culture and operate underneath the fba/ados cultural framework, then you are good. That gives you the illusion that "hip hop never cared about ethnicities" Afrika bambaataa is a pannie and not the end all be or all nor is his statements representative of the general thought. Of course someone like him would say that

The general thought is that "its good till it aint good" When nikkas started bringing islands and placing fbas in the background.......it stopped being good. And it started to get checked. Thats all there is too it. The rest is just dodo bird "im happy just being regular black" babble

And what relevancy does king charles have. Who is he O.G too. Whats his pipeline to actual hip hop creation and development. WHAT MUSIC WAS HE PLAYING. What venues was he playing. How is he more relevant than a DJ smokey,disco king mario,john brown,flowers etc to actuial pipeline hip hop development
 

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This is a stupid debate when there shouldnt be any, there is no excuse for using the n word if you are not black period, latinos or no one else should use that word, it was used to dehumanize black people for generations, they have no right
I agree.

Negged.
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None of this is depedent on tariq nasheed or him hating on fat joe. Its a stupid point because even if it was personal on tariqs behalf, fat joe IS STILL WRONG. IT DOESNT MATTER LOL. Not sure what part of that you dont understand.



This right here is conformation that you are just saying anything. Another lie exposed.






I literally just said this past Sunday that Tariq was on point for going after Joe for the 50/50 thing yet here you are making up lies about me not understanding what I already said Tariq was on point for doing. This is why I nicknamed you Pinocchio because just like that lie you made about Farrakhan here you are again lying about me not understanding Tariq going at Joe for being wrong about the 50/50 thing.

In the words of Michel'le. "Your nose is growing Pinocchio"





Next time. Stay the fukk out of conversations that don't involve you.
 
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This right here is conformation that you are just saying anything. Another lie exposed.






I literally just said this past Sunday that Tariq was on point for going after Joe for the 50/50 thing yet here you are making up lies about me not understanding what I already said Tariq was on point for doing. This is why I nicknamed you Pinocchio because just like that lie you made about Farrakhan here you are again lying about me not understanding Tariq going at Joe for being wrong about the 50/50 thing.

In the words of Michel'le. "Your nose is growing Pinocchio"





Next time. Stay the fukk out of conversations that don't involve you.
So articulate why that point always runs in tandem with the 50/50 point for you

You were wrong in saying tariq was the one that
"made it about ethnicities"
 

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My dude....I just exposed you for lying on me. Once you lie on me there is no discourse because your credibility is dead.


And then you have the nerve to say something about a 'wall of text' in your own 'wall of text." :snoop:

Do not quote me again, Pinocchio. My last response to you in this thread:

Stay the fukk out of conversations that don't involve you.
 
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