My Posse's On Broadway: Official NY Knicks 2016-2017 Season Thread

[Wargames]

I am ok with a younger version of Jrue Holiday. We need to aim for defenders. Defense is what is really killing us. Same reason I am ok with he Knicks keeping Lee, they just need to get some more defenders to help him out there.

 

[DPresidential]

Hey brehs, I've never gotten a full understanding of which NBA teams should definitely have been tanking this year.

I know the Knicks, 76ers, Wolves, but who else should have been tanking from game 1 for this draft class?

 

[Frump]

Frank is supposed to be a little taller and longer, projecting (potentially) as a better defender.

But if what he is is a taller/longer younger Jrue Holiday, who we lock up at a cheap rate for 7 years.... When you end up with the 8th-9th pick. Realistically, that's not a bad return.

Which is probably why the team should have been taking harder, earlier. But there were people that thought this team was bout to challenge in the east.


This is why you wanna be in the top 5. So you can evaluate all these guys (including some guards) and decide if Dennis Smith is gonna be better than Frank -- or if Isaac is better than all of them, long term. Etc, etc. Maybe you think Tatum projects out to be more than just a mid-range scorer. Gotta be in position for it to matter.

That's why I would have been fine trading Melo for a bag of balls

He's still can go off and win us a meaningless game against the Magic or Nets.

 

[Frump]

I am ok with a younger version of Jrue Holiday. We need to aim for defenders. Defense is what is really killing us. Same reason I am ok with he Knicks keeping Lee, they just need to get some more defenders to help him out there.

Knicks need more big time talent period. They need more then defensive specialists

 

[Wargames]

Knicks need more big time talent period. They need more then defensive specialists

Not yet, get some defensive talent cheap and then go chase establish FA talent. We always do it backwards and have nothing to show for it.

 

[Frump]

Not yet, get some defensive talent cheap and then go chase establish FA talent. We always do it backwards and have nothing to show for it.

Established FA talent has less incentive to leave then ever because of how much more they can make on their current teams

In the draft the way the NBA works you have to go for upside not what you think is a safer pick.

If we did that a few years ago we would have drafted Winslow instead of Porzingis

 

[Wargames]

Established FA talent has less incentive to leave then ever because of how much more they can make on their current teams

In the draft the way the NBA works you have to go for upside not what you think is a safer pick.

If we did that a few years ago we would have drafted Winslow instead of Porzingis

You are right. I am not going to say I know exactly who they should take (I was completely wrong about KP) But if we end up in the 6-10 range I think Frank has the skill set to help the Knicks out now & long term. Defense is killing us and his physical stats (if true) could make him a monster at Point.

 

[Frump]

You are right. I am not going to say I know exactly who they should take (I was completely wrong about KP) But if we end up in the 6-10 range I think Frank has the skill set to help the Knicks out now & long term. Defense is killing us and his physical stats (if true) could make him a monster at Point.

Frank could be very good I really have no idea nor does anyone else . Let's hope he is if we end up with him

But with making the pick the only two things id be thinking about when evaluating the player is 1. How big is his upside and 2. How would he mesh with Kp.

I'm thinking strictly for the longterm. I'm not making the pick based on who can play the best defense right away to win a few more games next year

When we're any good again 98% of the current roster will be gone.

 

[Malta]

Hey brehs, I've never gotten a full understanding of which NBA teams should definitely have been tanking this year.

I know the Knicks, 76ers, Wolves, but who else should have been tanking from game 1 for this draft class?

Suns, Kings, Pelicans, Lakers and Mavs.


The Wolves don't need to tank, they have talent already and making the playoffs wouldn't be a bad thing for them. You have to look at the age of a team, and then their best players and go from there.

After Jabari got hurt, it would be in the Bucks best interest to miss the playoffs and try to get Monk or Ntilikina.

 

[Recca Gatsby]

Bout to start getting toasted for that game tonight

Breh.....its like six hours early, you gon be drunk the whole day

 

[Wargames]

Breh.....its like six hours early, you gon be drunk the whole day

That's the best way to watch the game

 

[NY's #1 Draft Pick]

Breh.....its like six hours early, you gon be drunk the whole day

I took a nap after that . I'll start now

 

[DPresidential]

Suns, Kings, Pelicans, Lakers and Mavs.


The Wolves don't need to tank, they have talent already and making the playoffs wouldn't be a bad thing for them. You have to look at the age of a team, and then their best players and go from there.

After Jabari got hurt, it would be in the Bucks best interest to miss the playoffs and try to get Monk or Ntilikina.

First off, thank you for answering. You probably know where I'm going with this but still entertained me.

Aight, so, from what you're saying, Suns, Kings, Pelicans, Lakers, Knicks, and Sixers.

Are those the only treadmill or worse teams you see in the NBA?

You'd consider it rational for the fans of Orlando, Blazers, Nuggets, and Hawks organizations to root for a competitive season and for their respective front office to attempt to strengthen their roster - albeit not at the cost of leveraging their future w/ risky acquisitions - for as best of a push for a championship in 2017?

I ask because many of those teams seem to fall within the dreaded "treadmill" label. As a matter of fact, the Hawks have seemed to be the poster boy of treadmill by many people's standards.

I'm trying to determine what many of the pro-tank brehs would want any of the teams outside of Cleveland, Spurs and Rockets to do in the 2017 season.

 

[Derek Lee]

Must have happened when he blocked McCaw on the fast break lay up attempt. Saw him wincing.

Edit:
Confirmed

 

[Malta]

First off, thank you for answering. You probably know where I'm going with this but still entertained me.

Aight, so, from what you're saying, Suns, Kings, Pelicans, Lakers, Knicks, and Sixers.

Are those the only treadmill or worse teams you see in the NBA?

Those are the teams that should capitalize on their situation, and the Lakers have to tank to keep their draft pick, if it falls outside the top 3 it goes to the Sixers. The Heat should have but they didn't and they are going to be awful next year or the year after that, the delayed the inevitable and it will be even worse when it happens.

You'd consider it rational for the fans of Orlando, Blazers, Nuggets, and Hawks organizations to root for a competitive season and for their respective front office to attempt to strengthen their roster - albeit not at the cost of leveraging their future w/ risky acquisitions - for as best of a push for a championship in 2017?

The Magic need to fire their GM, tanking or not tanking wont help their situation since he can't draft. They need to fire Hennigan and then move on from there.

The Blazers don't need to tank, they got a gift from the Nuggets in Nurkic and 3 first rounders, they simply have to add to what they already have and getting Jusuf really saved them moving forward. Nevermind the fact they have a young core.

The Nuggets making the playoffs is fine, they have their franchise player already in Jokic and several other 23 & under guys with him - Gary Harris, Emanuel Mudiay, Jamal Murray and Other Hernangomez. They also have veterans that other teams would want, so trading Gallo or Chandler next year for a first is entirely possible.
The Hawks should tank but they wont

I ask because many of those teams seem to fall within the dreaded "treadmill" label. As a matter of fact, the Hawks have seemed to be the poster boy of treadmill by many people's standards.

I'm trying to determine what many of the pro-tank brehs would want any of the teams outside of Cleveland, Spurs and Rockets to do in the 2017 season.

It depends on the team, you're too caught up with the philosophical side of it If a team has a gang of young players and tradeable assets then no, they don't need to do it, the Sixers should tank because their young guys are hurt. The Knicks should tank because their core outside of Porzingis is old as fukk by NBA standards.