My Accounting brehs, a little help needed

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More information about this corporation is needed. Provide us with more details about the nature of the business.

$3,000 withdrawals could be a lot of different things. There should be more information given. I can't really see it being petty cash due to its size and the fact that there were two withdrawals within in the same month.

I'm assuming April is the first month that the business is in operation (since 40k was deposited on April 1)?

Can't be a dividend then - need to close the books, have a profit and then declare a dividend.

Petty cash is usually around $1,000 - really odd to have 7.5% of your entire cash in petty cash.

My guess is that it is probably some sort of expense that was paid in cash.

The debit side of this entry could literally be anything based on the info


aight yall sorry for the lack of info

it's a corporation started up on April 1st and accounting is only required for the first month of operations

the business is a "bike sharing" system set up within a downtown core.. based entirely off service revenue

i can upload the case if you guys want, but basically i've gone through every single source document and there were only two expenses paid in cash.. every other expense was covered by the cheques seen in the bank statement

the expenses paid by cash were $665 worth of office supplies purchased on April 1st (that's too much money to be a petty cash purchase, right?) and a collection of gas receipts throughout the month that totaled up to $530

other than that, there were no other purchases made by cash throughout the month, and yet $3000 was withdrawn at two separate times during the month

i'm trippin i swear there shouldn't even be straight cash withdrawals from a corporate bank account...
 

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aight yall sorry for the lack of info

it's a corporation started up on April 1st and accounting is only required for the first month of operations

the business is a "bike sharing" system set up within a downtown core.. based entirely off service revenue

i can upload the case if you guys want, but basically i've gone through every single source document and there were only two expenses paid in cash.. every other expense was covered by the cheques seen in the bank statement

the expenses paid by cash were $665 worth of office supplies purchased on April 1st (that's too much money to be a petty cash purchase, right?) and a collection of gas receipts throughout the month that totaled up to $530

other than that, there were no other purchases made by cash throughout the month, and yet $3000 was withdrawn at two separate times during the month

i'm trippin i swear there shouldn't even be straight cash withdrawals from a corporate bank account...

We are getting closer. You said you need to journalize the transactions on the bank statement. It's obvious that this cash withdrawal is problematic if there is no support documentation within this case study.

This leads me to ask what is the nature of the case study? Fraud detection? The need for supporting documentation?

Are you expected to create your own scenarios?

Aside from journalizing the transaction, what is the nature of the case study?

In general, case studies would be about more than merely doing accounting work...there seems to be a broad principle you are being asked to build upon.
 

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We are getting closer. You said you need to journalize the transactions on the bank statement. It's obvious that this cash withdrawal is problematic if there is no support documentation within this case study.

This leads me to ask what is the nature of the case study? Fraud detection? The need for supporting documentation?

Are you expected to create your own scenarios?

Aside from journalizing the transaction what is the nature of the case study?

In general Case Studies would be more than merely doing accounting work...there seems to be a broad principal you are being asked to build upon.

simple stuff... the actual objectives are to analyze the case, pick out which information is of accounting significance, then use that info to infer what transactions occured and journalize those transactions as accurately as possible.... there isn't a chart of accounts given, we have to create our own.. then we just gotta post to t-accounts, create a trial balance, income statement, and balance sheet

we're not specifically doing fraud detection or anything like that. it's just an introductory accounting course

there's pretty much no supporting information for the $3000 withdrawals.. all that's given is the bank statement showing the withdrawals, and then various expense receipts, with only the gas and supplies expenses being paid for by cash like i said
 

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Suspense account. If its wrong...im sure you can explain why you used it. The Teacher should show mercy.
 

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simple stuff... the actual objectives are to analyze the case, pick out which information is of accounting significance, then use that info to infer what transactions occured and journalize those transactions as accurately as possible.... there isn't a chart of accounts given, we have to create our own.. then we just gotta post to t-accounts, create a trial balance, income statement, and balance sheet

we're not specifically doing fraud detection or anything like that. it's just an introductory accounting course

there's pretty much no supporting information for the $3000 withdrawals.. all that's given is the bank statement showing the withdrawals, and then various expense receipts, with only the gas and supplies expenses being paid for by cash like i said

Okay.

Well, do not let the $3000 hold you back from doing all that you said above. Journalize the transaction as a cash withdrawal and move on.

In your written analysis, you can demand that future cash withdrawals are substantiated with better source documentation.

Do not let these two transactions distract you from completing the assignment.
 

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Suspense account. If its wrong...im sure you can explain why you used it. The Teacher should show mercy.

is a suspense account just a temp account for transactions that are unclear? so i would credit cash and debit suspense?

how would that work out on the income statement?
 

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Okay.

Well, do not let the $3000 hold you back from doing all that you said above. Journalize the transaction as a cash withdrawal and move on.

In your written analysis, you can demand that future cash withdrawals are substantiated with better source documentation.

Do not let these two transactions distract you from completing the assignment.

good looks breh

i've already journalized everything, just went back to review these withdrawals because i felt they were wrong

gonna get started on the financial statements now
 

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is a suspense account just a temp account for transactions that are unclear? so i would credit cash and debit suspense?

how would that work out on the income statement?

Yea..suspense is a balance sheet account for transactions that can't be determined at the moment. You put it there because a balance there would indicate something that was undetermined...and will jump out to you or anyone looking at the financials..instead of burying it in misc. expense or income on the income statement with legit transactions. Eventually i guess if you never can determine what it is...then you show it as some other income or misc expense on the income statement.
 

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first off that shyt would send up ALL TYPES of red flags. 15 % of your starting money just get's sucked out the bank with not so much as a sticky note? Suspect. Cash should not be coming directly out an operating account like this. Expense type accounts usually have their own account and are replenished like petty cash.

Looking at the account it's tied to a credit card machine of some type, where there any upfront cost associated with that that maybe fees were set up to come out automatically? I know some credit card companies insist on having a reserve in case people cancel their orders, especially if you're in the "service" industry.

No where in your other paperwork are there talks of needing to pay deposits for anyting? Rent? maybe.

If there really is nothing you then shove it on suspense and write something about controls needing to be created to prevent theft.
 
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