Murder Rap Documentary: The Untold Story of the 2pac & Biggie Murder

[@OffHalsted]

It's always a nicca like Mob James in the click.

I can understand why he'd feel a certain way towards Pac.

New niccaz getting instant stripes.

I think Pac was just one of those all or nothing types.

After them "A Team" folks got on his head, he was all the way open to embracing MOB.

He probably finally felt like he was surrounded by true, actual "riders".

But Mob James is wrong about Pac's attitude changing and him on people

was before Death Row.

i' still be like wtf when mfs act like pac was a choir boy before deathrow

mob James was there moose ... U weren't .... He said pac was cool n humble ... Soon as he got comfortable he started feeling himself n wen he had an army like the mob behind him no one would touch him n his attitude changed .... mob James isn't the first person to say this either .... His girl storm
said the same in thug-angel so did many others

Do yall nikkas look at pacs whole life or just those 9 months at death roweverybody know pac was straight definition of gemini 2 sides, it comes & goes.. Way before DR pac was a livewire, pac always felt untouchable, remember what mutah said about pac being protected by a lil man, so pac felt untouchable & could go away.



Always pac was still eating that humble pie prison gave em



Before DR



After DR



Same attitude, just a lil older

 

[Renzo]

See how wen u have no valid point u result to childish name calling hence why it's pointless debating u ..... baby lane was respected by crips and bloods .... If he was a bytch he wouldn't be that respected .... Tupac jumped baby lane knowing he had a bunch Ov bloods backing him ... is that not cowardly ??? No cause it's tupac your fairy tale long lost daddy funny as hell how whenever it's pac it's ok .. But I 100% bet if another rap nikka did the same Ud be bubububut he's a coward for doing this n that

What exactly are we debating? You caught up on if so and so was real..pointless shyt...You not even American so what makes you think Id give a fukk what you have to say? Eat a dikk with a side of crumpets and wash it down with some tea fakkit.

 

[Bigsuk]

What exactly are we debating? You caught up on if so and so was real..pointless shyt...You not even American so what makes you think Id give a fukk what you have to say? Eat a dikk with a side of crumpets and wash it down with some tea fakkit.

Ok childish nikka .... Can't even debate without getting in your feelings over a nikka u never knew but u treat like your long lost daddy ......debating that baby lane wasn't a bytch ... If he was a bytch then why is he so respected by the blue n red rag then ?? Even nikkas who like pac give baby lane his respect to how he got down in the streets .... no one actually wanted pac to get killed like that by baby lane .... But that's what happens wen you inject yourself in a gang-beef wen u have no bizz been in .........suge n the pirus who gassed pac up into making pac actually beileve he was from there let him claim /rep/ tatto freely without checking him are to blame as well .. Pac was to easily influenced/led ....

 

[Bigsuk]

i' still be like wtf when mfs act like pac was a choir boy before deathrow




Do yall nikkas look at pacs whole life or just those 9 months at death roweverybody know pac was straight definition of gemini 2 sides, it comes & goes.. Way before DR pac was a livewire, pac always felt untouchable, remember what mutah said about pac being protected by a lil man, so pac felt untouchable & could go away.



Always pac was still eating that humble pie prison gave em



Before DR



After DR



Same attitude, just a lil older

but he's not saying that ... He's not saying pac wasn't wild ... He's saying pac was cool , humble etc .. Soon as he got comfortable n knew he had the power , the crew behind him etc that's wen he changed started acting differently .... Mob James isn't the first to say this either ....

 

[Bigsuk]

You have no leg to stand on in this topic nikka so I'm done with the back & forth. It's exactly the point Ice T made when talking about Pac & Hit Em Up. Someone got you & you're making diss songs with threats? Baby Lane, a real live nikka went out handled the situation like a live nikka would. All nikkas like Lane have is their reputation & that's the exact reason he did what he did.

Exactly ..... I said the same .... If pac did what he did this era .. What he did back then on certain things ... the nigggas who ride with him would be the same nikkas calling him out .... I said this before n I stand by it ... Pac wasn't a fake but he isn't no where near as real as some of these cats talk like he was he's got a lot of questionable moves ... That if he did it these days a lot of nikkas would be the first to cal him out ...

 

[DatNkkaCutty]

I understand his reasoning in this case, but he seems like that one nicca in the crew who's always about everything.



Plus I think some of the vitriol he had for Suge is spilling over to Pac

He kicked alot of real shyt but he obviously got sour grapes.

seemed like Mob James guy got an issue with Suge, his sentiments towards Pac was weird and misplaced it seems.

These posts just go to show...at the end of the day...nggas gonna believe what dey wanna believe ....A ngga from the inner circle finally attempts to breakdown the behind the scenes...nd nggas still in denial....2PAC fanboys

"Its impossible"...

"Liessss..."

....nggas dont wanna hear it...anything against Pac is aslight or treason... to these stans. Ngga bro died behind Pacs pumpfakin....All I seen during the interview was contrition, maturity, nd reflection....But let spectators tell it.... he hatin to hate? Yall nggas different boyy...lawdd I tell ya....

 

[Renzo]

These posts just go to show...at the end of the day...nggas gonna believe what dey wanna believe ....A ngga from the inner circle finally attempts to breakdown the behind the scenes...nd nggas still in denial....2PAC fanboys

"Its impossible"...

....nggas dont wanna hear it...anything against Pac is aslight or treason... to these stans. Ngga bro died behind Pacs pumpfakin....All I seen during the interview was contrition, maturity, nd reflection....But let spectators tell it.... he hatin to hate? Yall nggas different boyy...lawdd I tell ya....

This nikka whole interview could be summed up with " what Suge do for us" ..like really so Suge should've took care of this dude, put his kids thru college and built brand new homes in Compton? Suge was under no obligation to take care these dudes and he was still breaking them off 2500 to do securitu, cars, homes, etc. 20 yrs later what he expect? Suge dead broke his damn self in jail fighting his life.

 

[MooseMouthMthafuga]

These posts just go to show...at the end of the day...nggas gonna believe what dey wanna believe ....A ngga from the inner circle finally attempts to breakdown the behind the scenes...nd nggas still in denial....2PAC fanboys

"Its impossible"...

....nggas dont wanna hear it...anything against Pac is aslight or treason... to these stans. Ngga bro died behind Pacs pumpfakin....All I seen during the interview was contrition, maturity, nd reflection....But let spectators tell it.... he hatin to hate? Yall nggas different boyy...lawdd I tell ya....

It's always a few rotten niccaz in the circle.

If I drag myself down to a low level street nicca way of thinking, I can definitely see where Mob James is coming from.

Personally, I don't trust any of these niccaz involved with Greg Kading.

The fact that these so called "real street niccaz" are in front of a camera, talking to a crooked cop, lets me know they

fell weak and desperate.I've been skeptical ever since that "Heron Mob" character hit the scene.


It's fishy how some lil nicca from Rhode Island was able to lay the groundwork to Murder Rap

All these scenarios/characters was being mentioned and explained by that dude.

I still think "Heron Mob" was Greg Kading or somebody working for him.

The Rhode Island dude is just a misdirection/decoy.


But I don't trust any television/media production, so you can call me crazy.

 

[DatNkkaCutty]

This nikka whole interview could be summed up with " what Suge do for us" ..like really so Suge should've took care of this dude, put his kids thru college and built brand new homes in Compton?

.....Thats all u got outta that uh? Total dismissal of anything Pac related uh? I rest my case...

Personally, I don't trust any of these niccaz involved with Greg Kading.

The fact that these so called "real street niccaz" are in front of a camera, talking to a crooked cop, lets me know they

fell weak and desperate.

I could dig that ....Still doesn't negate him from spittin the truth tho. Nggas kno that Pac movie about to drop. So u best believe anyone related to that entire situation (even those who upheld the code of silence all these years) are gonna be lookin to cash out....nd as they should. Cacs about to make bank off the ppl actually involved in the situation....while cuttin the real players out. I aint mad at nggas for trying to get some shine too

 

[Bigsuk]

It's always a few rotten niccaz in the circle.

If I drag myself down to a low level street nicca way of thinking, I can definitely see where Mob James is coming from.

Personally, I don't trust any of these niccaz involved with Greg Kading.

The fact that these so called "real street niccaz" are in front of a camera, talking to a crooked cop, lets me know they

fell weak and desperate.I've been skeptical ever since that "Heron Mob" character hit the scene.


It's fishy how some lil nicca from Rhode Island was able to lay the groundwork to Murder Rap

All these scenarios/characters was being mentioned and explained by that dude.

I still think "Heron Mob" was Greg Kading or somebody working for him.

The Rhode Island dude is just a misdirection/decoy.


But I don't trust any television/media production, so you can call me crazy.

Mob James is more credible then anyone on this forum wat u talking about moose ... nikka actully knew suge ...
Got to know tupac n observed the change .... U talking like bubububut no nikka this nikka was around it kills me if mob James was talking all bias n praising suge n Pac Ud be like " yeah mob James is the truth" since he isn't showing both of them in a positive light which they were not at least the last few stages of pacs life u on some meh not trusting that nikka coming from 1 Ov the original mob pirus but yeah he's not credable

 

[Renzo]

.....Thats all u got outta that uh? Total dismissal of anything Pac related uh? I rest my case...



I could dig that ....Still doesn't negate him from spittin the truth tho. Nggas kno that Pac movie about to drop. So u best believe anyone related to that entire situation (even those who upheld the code of silence all these years) are gonna be lookin to cash out....nd as they should. Cacs about to make bank off the ppl actually involved in the situation....while cuttin the real players out. I aint mad at nggas for trying to get some shine too

Read my earlier post. He didnt give any ground breaking news. For past 2 decades nikkas on both sides been saying Pac shouldn't have been out there fighting these dudes, but he was a grown ass man and he was free to do as he felt as well as associating himself with whoever he wished. Im not here to besmirch Pacs character and talk about how he wasnt this or that. The real spit is alot of these dudes posting nonsense are biggie/puffy fans and they still hurt 20yrs later because they favorite rapper got dissed so they use any negative statement to try and tear this brother down. They dont want a constructive dialogue so Im not going dignify that bullshyt with a well thought out response.

 

[MooseMouthMthafuga]

Mob James is more credible then anyone on this forum wat u talking about moose ... nikka actully knew suge ...
Got to know tupac n observed the change .... U talking like bubububut no nikka this nikka was around it kills me if mob James was talking all bias n praising suge n Pac Ud be like " yeah mob James is the truth" since he isn't showing both of them in a positive light which they were not at least the last few stages of pacs life u on some meh not trusting that nikka coming from 1 Ov the original mob pirus but yeah he's not credable

I don't take no man's word as gospel.Everybody has an opinion.Just because niccaz was around, don't mean his intentions are legit.

Guess you can turn a blind eye to that man sounding hurt & bitter?In a way, you have to be the opposite of niccaz like you.

The cynical/critical/harping on the negative shyt types.If we're all in here going "Pac was a weak fake nicca who was easily

influenced", that wouldn't be any fun would it? This is coming from Mob James.A nicca who made plenty poor choices in life.

Why should I trust his judgement? These are not honorable men of refinement.It's ignorant nicca shyt.I take it all with a grain of

salt.


But uh, Mainly, I don't trust Greg Kading or anybody associated with him

 

[King Karim]

further confirmation that the Crips killed Pac first and Biggie 2nd.

Timmy-Ru said "Man i think they did that, nobody from our side did that. I would know, I'm a street nikka"

and Mob James letting us know the bloods didn't retaliate so much b/c Suge told them to, they did so b/c they had to protect their reps or get ran outta Bompton.


make no mistake about this tho.......the Crips were both behind shootings

 

[Bigsuk]

I don't take no man's word as gospel.Everybody has an opinion.Just because niccaz was around, don't mean his intentions are legit.

Guess you can turn a blind eye to that man sounding hurt & bitter?In a way, you have to be the opposite of niccaz like you.

The cynical/critical/harping on the negative shyt types.If we're all in here going "Pac was a weak fake nicca who was easily

influenced", that wouldn't be any fun would it? This is coming from Mob James.A nicca who made plenty poor choices in life.

Why should I trust his judgement? These are not honorable men of refinement.It's ignorant nicca shyt.I take it all with a grain of

salt.


But uh, Mainly, I don't trust Greg Kading or anybody associated with him

no but if he was been totally bias n kissing pacs ass then it would be different moose wouldn't it ....u stanning to hard son .... never said he was weak either I said pac was way to easily influenced/led which is more then evident ....

 

[MooseMouthMthafuga]

no but if he was been totally bias n kissing pacs ass then it would be different moose wouldn't it ....u stanning to hard son .... never said he was weak either I said pac was way to easily influenced/led which is more then evident ....

It's beyond the Tupac situation.Sometimes I question if Tupac was real and this wasn't just some big money making hoax.

Like Pac wasn't just some character playing a role

I'm starting to really feel like the the world's a stage and we're all plugged into the Matrix.

I told you before, I just hate when people talk in absolutes.

It's all opinions & theories.

That's where me and you always clash.

You believe the theory that best supports your opinion is absolutely right.

I'm growing out of it, tho.I'm jumping out.

This shyt will never be solved because the "conspiracy" is too lucrative.

It's the new JFK Assassination.A gazillion books and documentaries will spawn out of it.

With a bunch of new characters who have "inside information" to make it more juicier.

The white man has turned this shyt into a business.All niccaz do is fight each other and get played.

Tom Whalley, Ted Field, and Jimmy Iovine still eating off Death Row money while small time nickel & dime niccaz

bytch about Suge.I gotta take my mind away from it.Y'all can have it.

This is the last time you'll see me discussing this shyt